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Topic: EXACTLY my question
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Mon 08/25/14 05:39 AM
i dont know how much of this is about this issue, 9 WHICH IT SEEMS MAY HAVE BEEN A JUSTIFIED SHOOTING AFTER ALL, and how much is due to 30 years of police brutality. .... I have seen cops falsify police reports, cooerce witnesses, lie in court, manupulate statements made by witnesses..., ect ect ad nauseum... and once your accused, how many people automaticly think you are guilty???

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Mon 08/25/14 06:28 AM

i dont know how much of this is about this issue, 9 WHICH IT SEEMS MAY HAVE BEEN A JUSTIFIED SHOOTING AFTER ALL, and how much is due to 30 years of police brutality. .... I have seen cops falsify police reports, cooerce witnesses, lie in court, manupulate statements made by witnesses..., ect ect ad nauseum... and once your accused, how many people automaticly think you are guilty???



by George, I think you got it,,,:wink:

even in the poole execution, the original police story was that the man 'charged' at them with knife up too

until PHONE video came out with him pacing back and forth with his arms at his side before being shot


police have the power and control in these situations to make the details justify the results,,,,,

so when you have conflicting accounts, one sided reporting (all about the victim and none about the shooter), and one account (that someone being SHOT at decided to 'charge' towards the shot) seeming so unlikely, improbably, and insane

people are going to say, we don't trust it, we demand THOROUGH details,,,,,and PROOF

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Mon 08/25/14 06:31 AM



I wondered why the secrecy about what the cop looked like on that night and why he hasn't been seen since , why there is no medical report, or paramedic report

in the Zimmerman fiasco, these things were available long before now...

but anyhow,, word out now that the reports of an 'orbital blowout' may have been just hearsay from an unreliable source and not a medical diagnosis at all,,,,



He's hiding to protect his life. He's not allowed to leave the house and he's being guarded.



you miss the point, when the incident HAPPENED, certain steps would have been taken long before he went away to 'hide'

photos of his injuries, inspection of his injuries, an incident report DESCRIBING the injuries observed and witness statements,,,

NONE Of that has yet been seen ANYWHERE,,,,,,,,


When the incident happened, within minutes a large crowd had already gathered and most of the crowd was either filming the scene or taking pictures and posting them on Twitter and Facebook. And Wilson was taken to the hospital.

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Mon 08/25/14 06:32 AM
I also have a gut that , like that powell shooting, someone in that area had a phone out and got that death on tape

but IM doubting the public will ever get to lay an eye on it,,,,I wish they had immediately gone on internet and posted it EVERYWHERE,,,,

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Mon 08/25/14 06:35 AM




I wondered why the secrecy about what the cop looked like on that night and why he hasn't been seen since , why there is no medical report, or paramedic report

in the Zimmerman fiasco, these things were available long before now...

but anyhow,, word out now that the reports of an 'orbital blowout' may have been just hearsay from an unreliable source and not a medical diagnosis at all,,,,



He's hiding to protect his life. He's not allowed to leave the house and he's being guarded.



you miss the point, when the incident HAPPENED, certain steps would have been taken long before he went away to 'hide'

photos of his injuries, inspection of his injuries, an incident report DESCRIBING the injuries observed and witness statements,,,

NONE Of that has yet been seen ANYWHERE,,,,,,,,


When the incident happened, within minutes a large crowd had already gathered and most of the crowd was either filming the scene or taking pictures and posting them on Twitter and Facebook. And Wilson was taken to the hospital.



according to whom? when Zimmerman was seen at his doctors, those results were IMMEDIATELY in the public eye

in this case, WHO took this person to the hospital and where is the hospital report?

some reports are that he drove away HIMSELF(hard with an orbital blowout) and some are that another officer drove him away

but no paramedic, and no PROOF He actually went into a hospital after, and NO proof that he had to go IMMEDIATELY to a hospital after the incident,,,,



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Mon 08/25/14 07:58 AM
The Assistant Chief took Wilson to the hospital.

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Mon 08/25/14 08:08 AM
uhhuh,, that's what 'they' say

but there was no paramedic for such a pressing injury
the tape of him talking to another officer after doesn't show him in any obvious sign of disarray or pain
and there is no MEDICAL report from the hospital yet released


there IS footage of the robbery the deceased committed
there IS a search into his background that came back with no record
there IS tape of his body on the ground and his autopsy




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Mon 08/25/14 03:00 PM


Would it really matter Ms Harmony?

Any information that has been released going contrary to the mob mentality has been totally disregarded.


RELEVANT information is not disregarded

WAHT WAS HAPPENING at the time of the shooting is relevant

did it happen during an ASSAULT in self defense?

did it happen during a surrender in excessive force?

that's whats RELEVANT


Are you kidding?

The fact that this horrible human being assaulted an old man 10mins before he punched the cop in the face absolutely is relevant to this situation, and it is being disregarded by the mob.

And when they are faced with the fact that he was having dreams about death, and blood soaked sheets hung up on clothes lines, they choose to see this as a 'premonition'.

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Mon 08/25/14 03:12 PM

it was throwing dirt to keep the spotlight off of the shooter,,,,


No, not at all.

The public deserves to know that this abusive, violent person had attacked a small bodied store clerk just minutes he punched the cop in the face.

Mike Mike's friend was already shooting off his mouth and telling all kinds of lies about the situation, getting people inflamed and angry.

Responding to the FOI request to release footage of Mike's violent MO and recent actions simply gives the public some actual, factual information to use to contextualize the outright falsehoods being spread. In no way is it 'throwing dirt'. The thiefs friend was throwing dirt. The family was throwing dirt. The race baiters were throwing dirt.

Sharing a bit of truth is not throwing dirt.

It's seriously messed up that the 'leaders' would spin this in this way, and further messed up that people are believing it.

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Mon 08/25/14 03:35 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 08/25/14 03:36 PM


it was throwing dirt to keep the spotlight off of the shooter,,,,


No, not at all.

The public deserves to know that this abusive, violent person had attacked a small bodied store clerk just minutes he punched the cop in the face.

Mike Mike's friend was already shooting off his mouth and telling all kinds of lies about the situation, getting people inflamed and angry.

Responding to the FOI request to release footage of Mike's violent MO and recent actions simply gives the public some actual, factual information to use to contextualize the outright falsehoods being spread. In no way is it 'throwing dirt'. The thiefs friend was throwing dirt. The family was throwing dirt. The race baiters were throwing dirt.

Sharing a bit of truth is not throwing dirt.

It's seriously messed up that the 'leaders' would spin this in this way, and further messed up that people are believing it.



the difference is, the person having their life 'contxtualized' is not alive to refute/explain/ or make amends for it,, like the cop was/is,,,,


that person was not yet even buried in the ground

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Mon 08/25/14 03:36 PM



Would it really matter Ms Harmony?

Any information that has been released going contrary to the mob mentality has been totally disregarded.


RELEVANT information is not disregarded

WAHT WAS HAPPENING at the time of the shooting is relevant

did it happen during an ASSAULT in self defense?

did it happen during a surrender in excessive force?

that's whats RELEVANT


Are you kidding?

The fact that this horrible human being assaulted an old man 10mins before he punched the cop in the face absolutely is relevant to this situation, and it is being disregarded by the mob.

And when they are faced with the fact that he was having dreams about death, and blood soaked sheets hung up on clothes lines, they choose to see this as a 'premonition'.




yes, being terrible should be grounds for execution

lets go to all the schools across the nation and find all teens who have been involved in shooting or fighting and just get an execution squad together right now,,, line them against the wall, tell them to face te guns and FIRE AWAY


would serve them right,,,,



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Mon 08/25/14 04:05 PM


yes, being terrible should be grounds for execution

lets go to all the schools across the nation and find all teens who have been involved in shooting or fighting and just get an execution squad together right now,,, line them against the wall, tell them to face te guns and FIRE AWAY


would serve them right,,,,


Why do you keep going all straw-man and false dilemma?

The question of whether it is relevanr doesn't hinge on the question of whether it justifies an execution.

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Mon 08/25/14 04:11 PM


the difference is, the person having their life 'contxtualized' is not alive to refute/explain/ or make amends for it,, like the cop was/is,,,,


that person was not yet even buried in the ground


You seem to me to be changing the topic.

It sounds like you just don't like the fact that this video was released, and you shifted your ground away from trying to accuse those who opted to release factual information of 'throwing dirt', and shifted it over to how its... disrespectful to the deceased???

I would love to live in a world where people got their facts straight before they blow something all out of proportion, and fan the flames of race hatred, and put many people's lives at risk from rioters and looters.

That's not the world we live in.

They did the right thing by releasing more of the facts when they did. They were not throwing dirt.

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Mon 08/25/14 04:16 PM
They also were not 'releasing' facts unless they painted a threatening picture of the deceased

partial truth is as deceiving as straight out lie

people needed information about what happened DURING the time of this mans death,, not before he ever even came in contact with his shooter

but DURING The interaction between his shooter and the deceased


if PEOPLE were going to have tape that even they say was UNRELATED to their stop released that showed the deceased being aggressive

they should also have an account from some of the other people this officer has tried to 'detain',,, that showed how aggressive or reactionary he might be,,

it wasn't a BALANCED Effort at all, it was a smear campaign to clear their boy


he had an 'orbital blowout' yet there is still no official medical report of any kind

and people all over the web are saying how awful the deceased must have been to beat his shooter so bad as to cause such an injury

just like the powell case where the police claimed the deceased RUSHED them with a knife raised, until video showed him pacing back and forth with both arms at his sides before being shot

police LIE< if they didn't lie to protect and cover for their own so often in certain communities,, their 'word' on what happened may hold more water


its not this shooter on trial so much as the police department of that town, as they should be,,,,

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