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Topic: African Orphans. US should offer to take them in
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Wed 10/08/14 07:46 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 10/08/14 07:48 AM


America can sit on the fence... I have volunteered to be sent to Africa to help :-)


In 2012, the United States provided nearly $12 billion in official development assistance (“ODA”) to African nations. The ODA is allocated to education, health, infrastructure and economic development programs in recipient countries. Currently, the United States allocates foreign aid to 47 African nations and USAID operates 27 missions on the continent.

US Foreign aid to Africa began in the 1960s as many African nations gained independence and the United States sought strategic alliances to counter the influence of the Soviet Union. With the exception of disaster and famine relief, most foreign aid to Africa began to decrease with the collapse of the Soviet Union.

In the 2000s, President Bush more than tripled aid to Africa by establishing programs such as the Child Survival and Health Programs Fund as well as the Global HIV/AIDS Initiative.

Thats sitting on the fence?


People can say what they want about Dubya..... I do.....Bush was an idiot puppet POTUS but he was respectful to service personnel and minorities.

He spent much of 2014 in Africa with Habitat for Humanities and other organizations building homes, schools and churches

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Wed 10/08/14 07:48 AM
Aid? I've been seeing feed the starvin children ads for over 30 years. I guess now we are feeding the starving children of the starving children! How about condoms for Africa? I would donate.

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Wed 10/08/14 07:54 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 10/08/14 07:52 AM

Aid? I've been seeing feed the starvin children ads for over 30 years. I guess now we are feeding the starving children of the starving children! How about condoms for Africa? I would donate.




laugh

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Wed 10/08/14 07:56 AM

America can sit on the fence... I have volunteered to be sent to Africa to help :-)



'Sitting on the fence', you say?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/us-military-to-lead-ebola-fight/2014/09/15/69db3da0-3d32-11e4-b0ea-8141703bbf6f_story.html



This thread is about the U.S., specifically, taking in the abandoned orphans. Most of the people posting in it have questioned why - only the U.S. - bears this responsibility.





So, we'll put you down for 5 abandoned orphans, to match the number the OP, who lives here in the U.S., is adopting...???


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Wed 10/08/14 08:05 AM

I have fostered and adopted 5 children other than my own in my lifetime.

Child and veteran charities are what I support. Make-A Wish gets a donation or computers from me every month.

Fostering children is NEVER a bad idea, but a little medical and personal history goes a long ways!

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Wed 10/08/14 08:10 AM
Edited by Leigh2154 on Wed 10/08/14 08:10 AM
America never sits on the fence when it comes to helping other nations, never...And we are not sitting on the fence now...Truth is, all government reaction/response to the Ebola outbreak was not what it could OR SHOULD have been...That being said, who dropped the ball is not the issue, the issue is "how best" to handle the carnage, contain the disease, and develop, mass produce and disperse a vaccine...Nothing is going to provide a quick fix to the situation in West Africa and bringing the threat of an epidemic to another country is not the answer, especially when you are talking about a country who is a MAJOR provider of the resources needed to "contain" Ebola by breaking transmission, dealing with effective cleanup, and providing adequate care units for those who need them....

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Ebola poses no significant threat to the US...It's not that easy to catch because (for now) it requires direct contact with bodily fluids of a person who IS displaying symptoms...Those bodily fluids include blood, vomit, feces, semen, saliva, tears and sweat...Know another reason why Ebola isn't a major concern in the US?...Quarantine....

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Wed 10/08/14 08:18 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 10/08/14 08:23 AM

America never sits on the fence when it comes to helping other nations, never...And we are not sitting on the fence now...Truth is, all government reaction/response to the Ebola outbreak was not what it could OR SHOULD have been...That being said, who dropped the ball is not the issue, the issue is "how best" to handle the carnage, contain the disease, and develop, mass produce and disperse a vaccine...Nothing is going to provide a quick fix to the situation in West Africa and bringing the threat of an epidemic to another country is not the answer, especially when you are talking about a country who is a MAJOR provider of the resources needed to "contain" Ebola by breaking transmission, dealing with effective cleanup, and providing adequate care units for those who need them....

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Ebola poses no significant threat to the US...It's not that easy to catch because (for now) it requires direct contact with bodily fluids of a person who IS displaying symptoms...Those bodily fluids include blood, vomit, feces, semen, saliva, tears and sweat...Know another reason why Ebola isn't a major concern in the US?...Quarantine....


Hello Beautiful! flowers :heart:

The problem with Ebola is ANIMALS! When it is transferred to the animal kingdom it mutates to new strains, untreatable without more research.

Animals eat other animals and on, and on. Africa has always been a problem with mutated strains of diseases..... like AIDS and Ebola. African people, many of them, live off the land and wild meat. Not processed food stuffs

The outcome if it does goes viral in the US can not be predicted, but we are NOT immune to a pandemic of a mutated strain by any means!

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Wed 10/08/14 08:24 AM
Edited by Leigh2154 on Wed 10/08/14 08:26 AM


America never sits on the fence when it comes to helping other nations, never...And we are not sitting on the fence now...Truth is, all government reaction/response to the Ebola outbreak was not what it could OR SHOULD have been...That being said, who dropped the ball is not the issue, the issue is "how best" to handle the carnage, contain the disease, and develop, mass produce and disperse a vaccine...Nothing is going to provide a quick fix to the situation in West Africa and bringing the threat of an epidemic to another country is not the answer, especially when you are talking about a country who is a MAJOR provider of the resources needed to "contain" Ebola by breaking transmission, dealing with effective cleanup, and providing adequate care units for those who need them....

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Ebola poses no significant threat to the US...It's not that easy to catch because (for now) it requires direct contact with bodily fluids of a person who IS displaying symptoms...Those bodily fluids include blood, vomit, feces, semen, saliva, tears and sweat...Know another reason why Ebola isn't a major concern in the US?...Quarantine....


Hello Beautiful! flowers :heart:

The problem with Ebola is ANIMALS! When it is transferred to the animal kingdom it mutates to new strains, untreatable without more research.

Animals eat other animals and on, and on. Africa has always been a problem with mutated strains of diseases..... like AIDS and Ebola.

The outcome if it does goes viral in the US can not be predicted, but we are NOT immune to a pandemic of a mutated strain by any means!


waving happy Hiya ((((((K))))))flowerforyou :heart: ....

Not immune to an outbreak, but certainly equipped to deal effectively if one should occure...Especially now that we are forewarned...Panic is counterproductive....

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Wed 10/08/14 08:28 AM

The possibility for mutation of Ebola is there. Making transmission easier. Nice.

Oprah and the churches and we have kicked in....ah, from where is this money coming from, taxpayers, or the printed free money?..


"The United States has already spent $175 million responding to the outbreak and has dispatched 100 CDC experts, among the largest deployments of agency personnel in its history. The administration has sought an additional $88 million and may ask for more, according to a senior administration official. “I don’t want to close the door to potential additional funding,” the official said. Separately, the Pentagon wants to take up to $500 million from existing funds within the Pentagon’s budget that have not yet been spent and use it for the plan to fight Ebola."

Then they continue to lie to us about unemployment rates.


And we're supposed to believe the news?

I bet we still have tent cities here, and families living out of their vehicles.


:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Wed 10/08/14 08:28 AM
Edited by fleta_n_mach on Wed 10/08/14 08:29 AM
double post ohwell

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Wed 10/08/14 08:29 AM
Edited by fleta_n_mach on Wed 10/08/14 08:30 AM
The possibility for mutation of Ebola is there. Making transmission easier. Nice.

Oprah and the churches and we have kicked in....ah, from where is this money coming from, taxpayers, or the printed free money?..


"The United States has already spent $175 million responding to the outbreak and has dispatched 100 CDC experts, among the largest deployments of agency personnel in its history. The administration has sought an additional $88 million and may ask for more, according to a senior administration official. I dont want to close the door to potential additional funding, the official said. Separately, the Pentagon wants to take up to $500 million from existing funds within the Pentagon budget that have not yet been spent and use it for the plan to fight Ebola."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/us-military-to-lead-ebola-fight/2014/09/15/69db3da0-3d32-11e4-b0ea-8141703bbf6f_story.html

Then they continue to lie to us about unemployment rates.


And we're supposed to believe the news?

I bet we still have tent cities here, and families living out of their vehicles.

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Wed 10/08/14 08:31 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 10/08/14 08:34 AM



America never sits on the fence when it comes to helping other nations, never...And we are not sitting on the fence now...Truth is, all government reaction/response to the Ebola outbreak was not what it could OR SHOULD have been...That being said, who dropped the ball is not the issue, the issue is "how best" to handle the carnage, contain the disease, and develop, mass produce and disperse a vaccine...Nothing is going to provide a quick fix to the situation in West Africa and bringing the threat of an epidemic to another country is not the answer, especially when you are talking about a country who is a MAJOR provider of the resources needed to "contain" Ebola by breaking transmission, dealing with effective cleanup, and providing adequate care units for those who need them....

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Ebola poses no significant threat to the US...It's not that easy to catch because (for now) it requires direct contact with bodily fluids of a person who IS displaying symptoms...Those bodily fluids include blood, vomit, feces, semen, saliva, tears and sweat...Know another reason why Ebola isn't a major concern in the US?...Quarantine....


Hello Beautiful! flowers :heart:

The problem with Ebola is ANIMALS! When it is transferred to the animal kingdom it mutates to new strains, untreatable without more research.

Animals eat other animals and on, and on. Africa has always been a problem with mutated strains of diseases..... like AIDS and Ebola.

The outcome if it does goes viral in the US can not be predicted, but we are NOT immune to a pandemic of a mutated strain by any means!


waving happy Hiya ((((((K))))))flowerforyou :heart: ....

Not immune to an outbreak, but certainly equipped to deal effectively if one should occure...Especially now that we are forewarned...Panic is counterproductive....


Agreed! We are better equipped to deal with it, but any effort takes time, and a lot can happen in a very short amount of time because humans are stubborn and don't listen to advice or warnings well..... or are unequipped/unable to comply

12 hours to 21 days...... not much time to find a cure before a massive amount of damage can be done to the population.... and panic WILL always be the outcome making matters worse.

People are idiots as well as stubborn!

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Wed 10/08/14 08:32 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Wed 10/08/14 08:33 AM
http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/10/ebola_in_america_and_other_fake_problems_our_leaders_love_to_fight.html
[Excerpt]
To summarize: Ebola epidemics occur only in Africa, due to the disastrous lack of hygiene and just as disastrous lack of healthcare. There is no chance that the virus, which is transmitted through vomit and contaminated syringes, and kills by dehydration, can create an epidemic in the United States, in Russia, or even in Albania.

The Ebola story is very similar to that of the Haitian earthquake. Remember how in 2010, a 7.0 point earthquake killed 220,000 people in Haiti? A few months later, a much stronger, 8.8 point earthquake in Chile killed about 700 people. Keep in mind that each whole-number point represents a 32-fold increase in released energy, and that the magnitude of 7.0 corresponds to the lower limit of a major earthquake.

That is, the Haitians were dying not so much because of the earthquake as because of the squalor and lack of proper construction materials. In the modern world, all devastating catastrophes (well, almost all) result not from natural disasters, but from disasters that are social and political. It is true for the viruses as much as it is for the earthquakes.

One of the original sources of the Ebola infection is the meat of our cousins - chimpanzees, gorillas, and monkeys. This is practically cannibalism: chimpanzees have the mind of a 4-year-old human child. Would you eat a 4-year-old child? In the Congo, they eat not only apes and monkeys, but also pygmies.

Today's Ebola epidemic, the largest in history, has killed 2,900 people out of 6,200 infected. Did you know that every single year, according to the same WHO, 250,000-500,000 people die of the flu?

So what do we have in conclusion? We have poor African countries, where Ebola - no doubt a terrible disease - is only one of the symptoms of a major social disease known as the failed state. We also have the international bureaucracy, incapable of quickly approving new drugs and vaccines because of its large size and incompetence, while at the same time screaming, "Give us more money so we can save humanity from destruction!" And we have President Obama, who can't even cope with real problems - whether it's the 50 million Americans on food stamps, or the Islamic Caliphate, or Vladimir Putin - and instead, declares the major problem to be Ebola, which has no way to become endemic in the United States.

When one doesn't know how to solve real problems, it becomes necessary to invent fake ones. Those are easier to solve.

That is why the Islamists, instead of confronting their own squalor and barbarism, are fighting America. That is why Putin, instead of confronting theft and corruption in Russia, is fighting America and Ukraine. And Obama, instead of confronting Putin and the Islamists, is fighting against Ebola.
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Our Leaders once again are presenting us with a Bunch of Anxiety-Making!

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Wed 10/08/14 08:36 AM
Simply put. They need more water wells over there, and soap.

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Wed 10/08/14 08:39 AM

Simply put. They need more water wells over there, and soap.


And again....:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

waving flowerforyou

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Wed 10/08/14 08:41 AM
Edited by fleta_n_mach on Wed 10/08/14 09:03 AM


Simply put. They need more water wells over there, and soap.


And again....:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

waving flowerforyou


morning, beautiful Leigh!flowerforyou flowerforyou

Yes, simple hand washing, and fluid retention ought to put a stop to it.

Same with our newly resurrected from the 1960's Entro D86 virus. Swear I had that crud as a kid too.

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Wed 10/08/14 09:49 AM

Aid? I've been seeing feed the starvin children ads for over 30 years. I guess now we are feeding the starving children of the starving children! How about condoms for Africa? I would donate.


:laughing: :thumbsup:

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Wed 10/08/14 11:27 AM
Edited by detaildon on Wed 10/08/14 12:09 PM
Obama Ebola Bumper Stickers Appear Around Los Angeles



Truth Revolt
October 8, 2014
Obama Ebola Bumper Stickers Appear Around Los Angeles

Vice President Joe Biden held up traffic around Los Angeles for a second day on Tuesday, but it was President Obama himself on the minds of many Southern California drivers as bumper stickers began appearing on area cars featuring the word Ebola with the Obama logo replacing the letter o.

The scathing stickers come on the eve of President Obamas Thursday trip to LA for a fundraiser at the home of Gwyneth Paltrow and on the same day that the LATimes reports that it may be premature for Mr. Obamas government to declare that the deadly Ebola virus is not transmitted by air.

Dr. C.J. Peters, who battled a 1989 outbreak of the virus among research monkeys housed in Virginia and who later led the CDCs most far-reaching study of Ebolas transmissibility in humans, said he would not rule out the possibility that it spreads through the air in tight quarters.

We just dont have the data to exclude it, said Peters, who continues to research viral diseases at the University of Texas in Galveston.

Whatever the case, at least some Southland drivers seem convinced that the Presidents policy on stopping the virus to-date have not inspired confidence.

edit detail ... dang,, need to get mine before they run out...all of the cars pictured were high end too... mmm...
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e224/caddoslim/EbolaSticker1_zps0688548e.jpg

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Wed 10/08/14 12:17 PM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Wed 10/08/14 12:20 PM
Ebola has orphaned thousands of children in West Africa, and relatives are terrified of taking them in for fear of infection, the United Nations said.



unfortunately op ...that is the case and would think also here in the USA ... people are scared of this disease with good reason ... maybe after the holding time as to know they don't have it ... for even there ...with their own relatives ... why are they not telling them about this after a certain time period ...they don't have to fear it in their own country ...



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