Topic: Why is it the more people want to become rich
msharmony's photo
Sun 11/02/14 02:34 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 11/02/14 02:36 PM
wealth is acquired, through just and unjust measures, through wit and brutality, through inheritance and 'sweat',,,,

but MONEY, is a necessity through which we barter for needs and wants

worshipping money as the 'value' of mans character or 'wit' or hard work or humanity,, is the evil,,,

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Sun 11/02/14 06:49 PM
Why is it the more people want to become rich...The more people become poor.

I am not certain of what you are trying to ask.

Why is it the more some people want to become rich, it means that other people become poor?
Because there is a finite amount of resources and most societies anymore are starting to lean towards socialism.

Because a lot of people see the quickest way to becoming rich is in taking what other people have.

Why is it the more a person wants to become rich, the more likely they, themselves, are going to become poor?
Many reasons for this one.
1. Because they have no skills, real ambition, or abilities. They don't want to do anything in particular but be rich, so don't know how to do anything, or have anything to offer, in exchange for riches.

2. Because they have no patience. They want the lifestyle they envision before they can safely afford it or maintain it so instead of building wealth they simply chase it.

3. Because they don't know what being rich means. A lot of people that want to be rich want to either just feel secure in their life, only don't know how to let go of their insecurity and use their bank account as an inaccurate measure of how they should feel, or they simply want the social cache of being perceived as rich.


Peccy's photo
Mon 11/03/14 06:14 PM

Because the top 1 percent won't give up their money.


And why should they? Would you willingly give up your money? It's easy for people to say it's unfair, but life is not fair. All those "rich" didugsn't make their money, but they did manage to hold onto it. I've seen many people sue and get six digit settlements as a court reporter. And after all of their grandiose showing off with it, be broke six months later. Earning money is fairly easy, holding onto it is another story.

So no, I don't agree that people should give up their money just so Joe Blow can waste it on drugs and "smooth" rims.

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Wed 11/05/14 06:18 PM
Edited by robinbad on Wed 11/05/14 07:12 PM

So you think that money is the root of all evil? . . . Money is a tool of Exchange.....


No, money is NOT the root of all evil.

The root of all evil is how we use the tool of exchange.

The tool was designed for all working people to be able to put food on their table, have roof over their heads, have money for health care, a job, be happy and enjoy the contribution of every person in our society. Anyone form a cleaner to a scientists, deserve all these things because they want to work, and because they work not only for themselves but also for you, me, and everyone. A cleaner is as important as a scientist.


How come that WORKING people cannot have a roof over their heads, make enough money to pay for health care and education, cannot find a job for months or even years, and live without a fear of the tomorrow and be happy?

The gov't says we all have the freedom to pursue happiness - it is our human right - right.

It is like to say to a slave you have the right to pursue happiness while don't letting him free. I would say, free people first - and they will be able to pursue their happiness on their own without your right to pursue happiness. Give them the real human rights.

The real human rights are - right to a free or quite affordable education, health care, a job, affordable housing, and right to have your own business. Private sector of economics should take care of the right to Own Your Own Business (Capitalism) - the right to become rich, the government should take care of the rest (Communism)- the right to NOT become poor. The gov-t must work, employ most people and compete with the private sector, take care of those who suffer. Those who want to become rich should go to work in the private sector of economy. At this moment the only thing the government and politicians take care of is their pockets and their jobs. All politicians all over the world are the same, and people all over the world suffer the same way.

We need to change the way we used to use the tool.




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Wed 11/05/14 07:04 PM
Edited by davidben1 on Wed 11/05/14 07:21 PM
because the more the accepted good and bar of success, that be adopted on planet earth, become self as rich determine who be of "greatness", such will cause all who wish for the same for them self, to worship these people as the "greatest", than of course naturally, want to only follow in their footsteps, and so than such will make truly caring so creating in ACTUALITY systems that create good for all as equal as a conflict of the self interest...

this will naturally create more and more poverty and accepted "poverty and rich" based rules and regulations...

but make no mistake, since history be the true tell of all, the greater the poor that exist, the greater the decline and demise of the whole civilization and all peoples has always been, as all societal systems that created extreme wealth but for some, and extreme poverty for the "others" were implemented, such did always and forever in all of previous written records, cause all who did so to self implode and destroy their own civilizations greatness, and so soon thereafter, ALL of their own civilization.

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Wed 11/05/14 07:10 PM
Edited by robinbad on Wed 11/05/14 07:10 PM

because the more the accepted good and bar of success, that be adopted on planet earth, become self as rich determine who be of "greatness", such will cause all who wish for the same for them self, to worship these people as the "greatest", than of course naturally, want to only follow in their footsteps, and so than such will make truly caring so creating in ACTUALITY systems that create good for all as equal as a conflict of the self interest...

this will naturally create more and more poverty and accepted "poverty and rich" based rules and regulations...

but make no mistake, since history be the true tell of all, the greater the poor that exist, the greater the decline and demise of the whole civilization and all peoples has always been, as all societal systems that created extreme wealth but for some, and extreme poverty for the "others" were implemented, such did always and forever in all of previous written records, cause all who did so to self implode and destroy their own civilizations greatness, and so soon thereafter, ALL'S their own civilizations.


totally agree if the system does not work for ALL WORKING CLASS it will finally collapse, example: soviet union

SpicyExcel's photo
Wed 11/05/14 08:55 PM
Edited by SpicyExcel on Wed 11/05/14 09:04 PM

Why is it the more people want to become rich...The more people become poor.

I am not certain of what you are trying to ask.

Why is it the more some people want to become rich, it means that other people become poor?
Because there is a finite amount of resources and most societies anymore are starting to lean towards socialism.

Because a lot of people see the quickest way to becoming rich is in taking what other people have.

Why is it the more a person wants to become rich, the more likely they, themselves, are going to become poor?
Many reasons for this one.
1. Because they have no skills, real ambition, or abilities. They don't want to do anything in particular but be rich, so don't know how to do anything, or have anything to offer, in exchange for riches.

2. Because they have no patience. They want the lifestyle they envision before they can safely afford it or maintain it so instead of building wealth they simply chase it.

3. Because they don't know what being rich means. A lot of people that want to be rich want to either just feel secure in their life, only don't know how to let go of their insecurity and use their bank account as an inaccurate measure of how they should feel, or they simply want the social cache of being perceived as rich.




Few individuals have a network system built to earn wealth. We start later in life when we realize life is short. It is exactly what you said, but unfortunately every individual walks a diiferent path in life, which they do not always have clear and educated path to make the correct choice.

If every person sat at home, went to work and spent none of there income on commodities that was not needed, and only invested it, then the investment world would have a much smaller and more controlled environment to invest money in. The world is changing from what people in the now 80's are, and it is a global economy. Not every country has the same structure of law's. This allows for corruption to influence market shares.

Every super power in history has eventually found the same fate. It either fails to see what is hidden or they lack enough strength to continue its' domination over other societies. (Eg. U.S. vs China; U.S vs Russia) you can add multiple known friendly countries together, but the end result is the same. How many companies and corporations are owned/controlled by foreign nationalist. Look at where investors are seeking to invest money. Most wealthy people do not care about people that go without, homeless. They give donations for tax right off and to gain good will for the company or themselves in a community.

We all try our best, but it does not mean were going to gain in this crazy game of life. (Look at dating sites and how many people live alone. How much money these landlords and developers make. You then need to look at the jobs created by this.) The only way to get ahead is to find someone to spend your life with and acquire wealth together, but society is not set up like that anymore.

Peoples job inprotance are not treated equally. A CEO job is consider more important than a labourers job. Skill difference yes! Can the CEO do the labourers job - not likely - but a few can. Our skills are treated unequal which does not create democracy. Our rights are limited and there is not enough CEO jobs for people who acquired a good education.

Education is important, they say it show an employer you know how to learn, but fifty or sixty years ago an education was needed to fill those CEO jobs.

IT PROPOGANDA! WHAT GOVERNMENTS AND THE WEALTH WANT TO KEEP ECONOMIES GOING.

THERE IS NOT ENOUGH HIGH PAYING JOBS FOR EVERYONE.

The list goes on with problems that effect countries. Many cannot be spoken of, or one could feel discrimination themselves.

We in our life time or our great grand childrens life time will never see a balance in economic life style.

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 11/06/14 02:19 AM


So you think that money is the root of all evil? . . . Money is a tool of Exchange.....


No, money is NOT the root of all evil.

The root of all evil is how we use the tool of exchange.

The tool was designed for all working people to be able to put food on their table, have roof over their heads, have money for health care, a job, be happy and enjoy the contribution of every person in our society. Anyone form a cleaner to a scientists, deserve all these things because they want to work, and because they work not only for themselves but also for you, me, and everyone. A cleaner is as important as a scientist.


How come that WORKING people cannot have a roof over their heads, make enough money to pay for health care and education, cannot find a job for months or even years, and live without a fear of the tomorrow and be happy?

The gov't says we all have the freedom to pursue happiness - it is our human right - right.

It is like to say to a slave you have the right to pursue happiness while don't letting him free. I would say, free people first - and they will be able to pursue their happiness on their own without your right to pursue happiness. Give them the real human rights.

The real human rights are - right to a free or quite affordable education, health care, a job, affordable housing, and right to have your own business. Private sector of economics should take care of the right to Own Your Own Business (Capitalism) - the right to become rich, the government should take care of the rest (Communism)- the right to NOT become poor. The gov-t must work, employ most people and compete with the private sector, take care of those who suffer. Those who want to become rich should go to work in the private sector of economy. At this moment the only thing the government and politicians take care of is their pockets and their jobs. All politicians all over the world are the same, and people all over the world suffer the same way.

We need to change the way we used to use the tool.





Go pick it off a Tree in your Backyard,since you think that's where it all grows!
Ever thought that someone has to earn it before you can Loot it?

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 11/06/14 02:22 AM


Why is it the more people want to become rich...The more people become poor.

I am not certain of what you are trying to ask.

Why is it the more some people want to become rich, it means that other people become poor?
Because there is a finite amount of resources and most societies anymore are starting to lean towards socialism.

Because a lot of people see the quickest way to becoming rich is in taking what other people have.

Why is it the more a person wants to become rich, the more likely they, themselves, are going to become poor?
Many reasons for this one.
1. Because they have no skills, real ambition, or abilities. They don't want to do anything in particular but be rich, so don't know how to do anything, or have anything to offer, in exchange for riches.

2. Because they have no patience. They want the lifestyle they envision before they can safely afford it or maintain it so instead of building wealth they simply chase it.

3. Because they don't know what being rich means. A lot of people that want to be rich want to either just feel secure in their life, only don't know how to let go of their insecurity and use their bank account as an inaccurate measure of how they should feel, or they simply want the social cache of being perceived as rich.




Few individuals have a network system built to earn wealth. We start later in life when we realize life is short. It is exactly what you said, but unfortunately every individual walks a diiferent path in life, which they do not always have clear and educated path to make the correct choice.

If every person sat at home, went to work and spent none of there income on commodities that was not needed, and only invested it, then the investment world would have a much smaller and more controlled environment to invest money in. The world is changing from what people in the now 80's are, and it is a global economy. Not every country has the same structure of law's. This allows for corruption to influence market shares.

Every super power in history has eventually found the same fate. It either fails to see what is hidden or they lack enough strength to continue its' domination over other societies. (Eg. U.S. vs China; U.S vs Russia) you can add multiple known friendly countries together, but the end result is the same. How many companies and corporations are owned/controlled by foreign nationalist. Look at where investors are seeking to invest money. Most wealthy people do not care about people that go without, homeless. They give donations for tax right off and to gain good will for the company or themselves in a community.

We all try our best, but it does not mean were going to gain in this crazy game of life. (Look at dating sites and how many people live alone. How much money these landlords and developers make. You then need to look at the jobs created by this.) The only way to get ahead is to find someone to spend your life with and acquire wealth together, but society is not set up like that anymore.

Peoples job inprotance are not treated equally. A CEO job is consider more important than a labourers job. Skill difference yes! Can the CEO do the labourers job - not likely - but a few can. Our skills are treated unequal which does not create democracy. Our rights are limited and there is not enough CEO jobs for people who acquired a good education.

Education is important, they say it show an employer you know how to learn, but fifty or sixty years ago an education was needed to fill those CEO jobs.

IT PROPOGANDA! WHAT GOVERNMENTS AND THE WEALTH WANT TO KEEP ECONOMIES GOING.

THERE IS NOT ENOUGH HIGH PAYING JOBS FOR EVERYONE.

The list goes on with problems that effect countries. Many cannot be spoken of, or one could feel discrimination themselves.

We in our life time or our great grand childrens life time will never see a balance in economic life style.

Might,if you get the Looting Thieving Politicians out of the People's Pockets!

Chazster's photo
Thu 11/06/14 05:47 AM


Why is it the more people want to become rich...The more people become poor.

I am not certain of what you are trying to ask.

Why is it the more some people want to become rich, it means that other people become poor?
Because there is a finite amount of resources and most societies anymore are starting to lean towards socialism.

Because a lot of people see the quickest way to becoming rich is in taking what other people have.

Why is it the more a person wants to become rich, the more likely they, themselves, are going to become poor?
Many reasons for this one.
1. Because they have no skills, real ambition, or abilities. They don't want to do anything in particular but be rich, so don't know how to do anything, or have anything to offer, in exchange for riches.

2. Because they have no patience. They want the lifestyle they envision before they can safely afford it or maintain it so instead of building wealth they simply chase it.

3. Because they don't know what being rich means. A lot of people that want to be rich want to either just feel secure in their life, only don't know how to let go of their insecurity and use their bank account as an inaccurate measure of how they should feel, or they simply want the social cache of being perceived as rich.




Few individuals have a network system built to earn wealth. We start later in life when we realize life is short. It is exactly what you said, but unfortunately every individual walks a diiferent path in life, which they do not always have clear and educated path to make the correct choice.

If every person sat at home, went to work and spent none of there income on commodities that was not needed, and only invested it, then the investment world would have a much smaller and more controlled environment to invest money in. The world is changing from what people in the now 80's are, and it is a global economy. Not every country has the same structure of law's. This allows for corruption to influence market shares.

Every super power in history has eventually found the same fate. It either fails to see what is hidden or they lack enough strength to continue its' domination over other societies. (Eg. U.S. vs China; U.S vs Russia) you can add multiple known friendly countries together, but the end result is the same. How many companies and corporations are owned/controlled by foreign nationalist. Look at where investors are seeking to invest money. Most wealthy people do not care about people that go without, homeless. They give donations for tax right off and to gain good will for the company or themselves in a community.

We all try our best, but it does not mean were going to gain in this crazy game of life. (Look at dating sites and how many people live alone. How much money these landlords and developers make. You then need to look at the jobs created by this.) The only way to get ahead is to find someone to spend your life with and acquire wealth together, but society is not set up like that anymore.

Peoples job inprotance are not treated equally. A CEO job is consider more important than a labourers job. Skill difference yes! Can the CEO do the labourers job - not likely - but a few can. Our skills are treated unequal which does not create democracy. Our rights are limited and there is not enough CEO jobs for people who acquired a good education.

Education is important, they say it show an employer you know how to learn, but fifty or sixty years ago an education was needed to fill those CEO jobs.

IT PROPOGANDA! WHAT GOVERNMENTS AND THE WEALTH WANT TO KEEP ECONOMIES GOING.

THERE IS NOT ENOUGH HIGH PAYING JOBS FOR EVERYONE.

The list goes on with problems that effect countries. Many cannot be spoken of, or one could feel discrimination themselves.

We in our life time or our great grand childrens life time will never see a balance in economic life style.

Yes a CEO's job is more important. All the laborer must do is build his product. It is not the responsibility of the laborer to make sure the company succeeds and turns a profit. The laborer doesn't answer to the stock holders and investors that give the company money to help it grow. Also most CEOs don't make the millions and millions that people think of when the talk about CEOs. Yea the ones that manage multi billion dollar industries do but that isn't the majority of CEOs. Those got where they were because they were good at what they do.

Why do some college football coaches make millions but college janitors make close to minimum wage? It is about what they bring to the table.

ramones009's photo
Thu 11/06/14 07:03 AM
USA. the king of the slaves. if u want live in USAyou have to be slave of tje system. if u dont want be slave you will finished in the streets homeless. you have to learn how not be slave of the system if you wantl ive decentlyp. poor or rich noone doesnt scape from slaving

ramones009's photo
Thu 11/06/14 07:28 AM
USA. the king of the slaves. if u want live in USAyou have to be slave of tje system. if u dont want be slave you will finished in the streets homeless. you have to learn how not be slave of the system if you wantl ive decentlyp. poor or rich noone doesnt scape from slaving

SpicyExcel's photo
Thu 11/06/14 09:24 AM
Edited by SpicyExcel on Thu 11/06/14 09:30 AM



Why is it the more people want to become rich...The more people become poor.

I am not certain of what you are trying to ask.

Why is it the more some people want to become rich, it means that other people become poor?
Because there is a finite amount of resources and most societies anymore are starting to lean towards socialism.

Because a lot of people see the quickest way to becoming rich is in taking what other people have.

Why is it the more a person wants to become rich, the more likely they, themselves, are going to become poor?
Many reasons for this one.
1. Because they have no skills, real ambition, or abilities. They don't want to do anything in particular but be rich, so don't know how to do anything, or have anything to offer, in exchange for riches.

2. Because they have no patience. They want the lifestyle they envision before they can safely afford it or maintain it so instead of building wealth they simply chase it.

3. Because they don't know what being rich means. A lot of people that want to be rich want to either just feel secure in their life, only don't know how to let go of their insecurity and use their bank account as an inaccurate measure of how they should feel, or they simply want the social cache of being perceived as rich.




Few individuals have a network system built to earn wealth. We start later in life when we realize life is short. It is exactly what you said, but unfortunately every individual walks a diiferent path in life, which they do not always have clear and educated path to make the correct choice.

If every person sat at home, went to work and spent none of there income on commodities that was not needed, and only invested it, then the investment world would have a much smaller and more controlled environment to invest money in. The world is changing from what people in the now 80's are, and it is a global economy. Not every country has the same structure of law's. This allows for corruption to influence market shares.

Every super power in history has eventually found the same fate. It either fails to see what is hidden or they lack enough strength to continue its' domination over other societies. (Eg. U.S. vs China; U.S vs Russia) you can add multiple known friendly countries together, but the end result is the same. How many companies and corporations are owned/controlled by foreign nationalist. Look at where investors are seeking to invest money. Most wealthy people do not care about people that go without, homeless. They give donations for tax right off and to gain good will for the company or themselves in a community.

We all try our best, but it does not mean were going to gain in this crazy game of life. (Look at dating sites and how many people live alone. How much money these landlords and developers make. You then need to look at the jobs created by this.) The only way to get ahead is to find someone to spend your life with and acquire wealth together, but society is not set up like that anymore.

Peoples job inprotance are not treated equally. A CEO job is consider more important than a labourers job. Skill difference yes! Can the CEO do the labourers job - not likely - but a few can. Our skills are treated unequal which does not create democracy. Our rights are limited and there is not enough CEO jobs for people who acquired a good education.

Education is important, they say it show an employer you know how to learn, but fifty or sixty years ago an education was needed to fill those CEO jobs.

IT PROPOGANDA! WHAT GOVERNMENTS AND THE WEALTH WANT TO KEEP ECONOMIES GOING.

THERE IS NOT ENOUGH HIGH PAYING JOBS FOR EVERYONE.

The list goes on with problems that effect countries. Many cannot be spoken of, or one could feel discrimination themselves.

We in our life time or our great grand childrens life time will never see a balance in economic life style.

Yes a CEO's job is more important. All the laborer must do is build his product. It is not the responsibility of the laborer to make sure the company succeeds and turns a profit. The laborer doesn't answer to the stock holders and investors that give the company money to help it grow. Also most CEOs don't make the millions and millions that people think of when the talk about CEOs. Yea the ones that manage multi billion dollar industries do but that isn't the majority of CEOs. Those got where they were because they were good at what they do.

Why do some college football coaches make millions but college janitors make close to minimum wage? It is about what they bring to the table.


I think you missed the point, I was trying to make. There is not enough positions/opportunities for everyone to fill a CEO, Chief Finacial Officers ect. positions in the world. Consider this; if the labourer or janitors did not do there job who would perform this work? The CEO, Chief Finacial Officers ect. they then would not have time to do the work load that is expected of them if thing were not cleaned or built for them by someone else. Who would want to go to a stadium these days if fecal matter, or garbage laid all over the floor, where you were sitting. Think of the disease we would have in society still.

I graduated with Honours in accounting. I lack a network to find employment and I was competing for a entry position with individuals' with 5-10 years of experience for $13.00/hour. This wage is probably fair for someone starting out gaining work experience in this field, but not fair for someone with that many years experience. Why did we have a resection, because the labourer or janitor did not do their job; NOT LIKELY!

You are correct not every CEO makes millions, but someone of them abuse the position when it comes to the consumers to turn the profit your referrig to. People underneath upper management follow their lead to stay employed.

There are so many factors involved that it is not just one or two CEO or other wealthy people in the global society that have more than they need. These people want more rather than opening up a position for someone else to establish finacial security; and helping these new people learn a greater skill set. These people who have more than enough to live and love their careers what is wrong with them being only a mentor to someone?

Basicly saying why do these wealthy people not volunteer there time and help train new people. They don't need the money they want the money!

I am far from being ingorant and see how people are treated unequally in society. I say this not from wanting to be a multi - million - air, but from reality of society.

Is it fair to a person who is willing and has a great skill-set too end up working the streets, having to deal drugs, being homeless, or committing any other crime to survive. These peole who have enough money see this, but continue to make more for themselve rather than expanding 1% of wealthy individuals.

Where are the mentor's in today's society to help people gain a better life. Only a few people are willing to take on this position in society and thank them for the individuals who are mentor's and see many people want to succeed and escape corruption, or poverty of life.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 11/06/14 11:05 AM

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 11/06/14 12:14 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Thu 11/06/14 12:14 PM
Most people lump together into the same category all men who become rich, refusing to consider the essential question: the source of the riches, the means by which the wealth was acquired.

Money is a tool of exchange; it represents wealth only so long as it can be traded for material goods and services. Wealth does not grow in nature; it has to be produced by men. Nature gives us only the raw materials, but it is man's mind that has to discover the knowledge of how to use them. It is man's thinking and labor that transform the materials into food, clothing, shelter or television sets into all the goods that men require for their survival, comfort and pleasure.

Behind every step of humanity's long climb from the cave to New York City, there is the man who took that step for the first time the man who discovered how to make a fire or a wheel or an airplane or an electric light.

When people refuse to consider the source of wealth, what they refuse to recognize is the fact that wealth is the product of man's intellect, of his creative ability, fully as much as is art, science, philosophy or any other human value.



The Money-Making Personality
The Objectivist Forum, Feb. 1983, 2

Chazster's photo
Fri 11/07/14 06:38 AM


I think you missed the point, I was trying to make. There is not enough positions/opportunities for everyone to fill a CEO, Chief Finacial Officers ect. positions in the world. Consider this; if the labourer or janitors did not do there job who would perform this work? The CEO, Chief Finacial Officers ect. they then would not have time to do the work load that is expected of them if thing were not cleaned or built for them by someone else. Who would want to go to a stadium these days if fecal matter, or garbage laid all over the floor, where you were sitting. Think of the disease we would have in society still.

I graduated with Honours in accounting. I lack a network to find employment and I was competing for a entry position with individuals' with 5-10 years of experience for $13.00/hour. This wage is probably fair for someone starting out gaining work experience in this field, but not fair for someone with that many years experience. Why did we have a resection, because the labourer or janitor did not do their job; NOT LIKELY!

You are correct not every CEO makes millions, but someone of them abuse the position when it comes to the consumers to turn the profit your referrig to. People underneath upper management follow their lead to stay employed.

There are so many factors involved that it is not just one or two CEO or other wealthy people in the global society that have more than they need. These people want more rather than opening up a position for someone else to establish finacial security; and helping these new people learn a greater skill set. These people who have more than enough to live and love their careers what is wrong with them being only a mentor to someone?

Basicly saying why do these wealthy people not volunteer there time and help train new people. They don't need the money they want the money!

I am far from being ingorant and see how people are treated unequally in society. I say this not from wanting to be a multi - million - air, but from reality of society.

Is it fair to a person who is willing and has a great skill-set too end up working the streets, having to deal drugs, being homeless, or committing any other crime to survive. These peole who have enough money see this, but continue to make more for themselve rather than expanding 1% of wealthy individuals.

Where are the mentor's in today's society to help people gain a better life. Only a few people are willing to take on this position in society and thank them for the individuals who are mentor's and see many people want to succeed and escape corruption, or poverty of life.


Actually no I didn't. If everyone was a CEO then nothing else would exist. Thus that idea in general is just dumb. The reason CEOs get paid so much is because it is a crappy job and there are not that many people that can succeed at it and they make the people who pay them a lot of money. This is the same reason pro athletes make a killing. If anyone could play like Peyton Manning then they wouldn't need to pay him so much. Many CEOs barely have enough time to spend with their families much less "mentor" someone just because.

I don't even know where you are getting at needing a network. My wife isn't even a citizen and in the country less than 2 years when she got her most recent job in Accounts Payable making much more than what you listed for accounting. She also had no experience in it. We did, however, move to a city where we knew there were opportunities. I myself have worked in several cities and got jobs without any kind of special network. I just searched online and applied.

no photo
Fri 11/14/14 11:20 AM


Because the top 1 percent won't give up their money.


And why should they? Would you willingly give up your money? It's easy for people to say it's unfair, but life is not fair. All those "rich" didugsn't make their money, but they did manage to hold onto it. I've seen many people sue and get six digit settlements as a court reporter. And after all of their grandiose showing off with it, be broke six months later. Earning money is fairly easy, holding onto it is another story.

So no, I don't agree that people should give up their money just so Joe Blow can waste it on drugs and "smooth" rims.


Yes.

Anyone who thinks that the richest 10% of americans should give up their wealth, should themselves move into a cardboard box and give all their money to the 3rd world.

The poorest people in america ARE in the top 10% of the whole world.

If you live in america and believe in the redistribution of wealth: Guess what? You ARE one of the richest people in the world. We should take your money away from you and give it to people in africa.


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Fri 11/14/14 11:24 AM


We did, however, move to a city where we knew there were opportunities. I myself have worked in several cities and got jobs without any kind of special network. I just searched online and applied.



Yes.

When I was a teenager I hitchiked around the US, and it was a huge eye opener. I stayed in inner city areas where everyone live in poverty, and many claimed that it was simply impossible to get a job. Three day's later I'd be in a town filled with help wanted signs.

Later, when I asked unemployed people why they didn't move to go get work, they would basically say its because "they shouldn't have to". It was like they thought that the world owed them a job, right there where they live.

Moving can be hard for some people, but that's what responsible people with good values do: They do hard things, especially if its going to benefit them in the long run.

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Fri 11/14/14 10:07 PM
for young people responsible for no one but themselves, options are much more limitless and risks seem much more reasonable

for those with families,, to move means to terminate a contract where one lives(placing a negative mark for the future in looking for a residence)

it means to have some reserve of resources with which to pay for travel expenses and lodging and the security deposit and first months rent UNTIL one is hired into a job AND

most decent(safe place for ones children) are going to want someone who has been in their job a while,,,,


so yeah, I get how if I was an 22 year old with no one but myself, I could save up a cool thousand, take a bus to some city usa, and rent a room in a place that had roaches and high crime,,,,and wait tables to pay for the room and eat


but as a person with a FAMILY,, not quite as likely that I put them through that ,,,,,just to struggle someplace new,,,,

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Fri 11/14/14 10:10 PM
those that love to state the obvious in life but love to feel them self as wise, and think it will change the world to better.