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Topic: A Religion Of Peace Or Pure Evil?
Toks88 Joined Sun 01/20/13 Posts: 4337	Wed 01/21/15 03:02 PM
Amazing testimonies http://www.divinerevelations.info/documents/muslim_journey_of_hope/index.htm

SheikOfLaBroquerie Joined Thu 01/31/13 Posts: 1973	Wed 01/21/15 03:14 PM
On the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: When Allah decreed the Creation He pledged Himself by writing in His book which is laid down with Him: My mercy prevails over my wrath. It was related by Muslim (also by al-Bukhari, an-Nasa'i and Ibn Majah). This is a Hadith. It's been my observation with Hadiths... The longer they are, the greater the likelihood they're not believable. The shorter they are, the greater the likelihood they've any merit. As a general rule, I don't use any at all because the entire register of Hadith are so huge that nobody would ever be able to cull through all of them. Here in is the problem... Why would anybody want to make their religion more complicated then it need be? Sheik Yer Booty! Yes it is Hadith- why does no one quote these verses? I find this verse as almost hidden in many religious texts. Sometimes I point them out and do you know how most people response? They do not believe it refers to them. These verses remind me of Hope quietly whispering to mankind to be let out of Pandora's box. Shhh, be still, be quiet- can you hear what is being said? My Mercy prevails over My Wrath and For this is as the waters of Noah unto me: for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee, nor rebuke thee. Isaiah 54:9 That's the point I was trying to get across. The shorter... The better. The longer... The less likely. It's a nice sentiment, but as an example; Think about how many people think the poem, 'Footsteps In The Sand' is from the Bible.

TBRich Joined Fri 11/07/08 Posts: 8232	Wed 01/21/15 03:29 PM
On the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: When Allah decreed the Creation He pledged Himself by writing in His book which is laid down with Him: My mercy prevails over my wrath. It was related by Muslim (also by al-Bukhari, an-Nasa'i and Ibn Majah). This is a Hadith. It's been my observation with Hadiths... The longer they are, the greater the likelihood they're not believable. The shorter they are, the greater the likelihood they've any merit. As a general rule, I don't use any at all because the entire register of Hadith are so huge that nobody would ever be able to cull through all of them. Here in is the problem... Why would anybody want to make their religion more complicated then it need be? Sheik Yer Booty! Yes it is Hadith- why does no one quote these verses? I find this verse as almost hidden in many religious texts. Sometimes I point them out and do you know how most people response? They do not believe it refers to them. These verses remind me of Hope quietly whispering to mankind to be let out of Pandora's box. Shhh, be still, be quiet- can you hear what is being said? My Mercy prevails over My Wrath and For this is as the waters of Noah unto me: for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee, nor rebuke thee. Isaiah 54:9 That's the point I was trying to get across. The shorter... The better. The longer... The less likely. It's a nice sentiment, but as an example; Think about how many people think the poem, 'Footsteps In The Sand' is from the Bible. As my old theology professor liked to say- those who respect the textx, have never actually read it and. I think Mighty Moe made a reference to it not being what is written but who and how intreprets it. People will find and twist verses to fit their own innate bias and hate. Perhaps that is as it should be hope, love, charity softly whispering to us thru the windstorm

SheikOfLaBroquerie Joined Thu 01/31/13 Posts: 1973	Wed 01/21/15 03:36 PM
TB Rich, have You got whatever it is that Davidben1 has got? (I'm getting concerned)

TBRich Joined Fri 11/07/08 Posts: 8232	Wed 01/21/15 03:45 PM
TB Rich, have You got whatever it is that Davidben1 has got? (I'm getting concerned) LOL, no, however the strokes I have had appear to have left me with PBA and it makes me unusually emotional which is sometimes very difficult to hide. LOL- I feel like a woman! Agggh and on her period! Apparently it takes a while for the treatment to take effect. Plus, every doctor who has seen MRIs of my brain appear more interested in the fact that it is covered in spots-Chronic Traumatic Brain Injury or some such nonsense, apparently too many concussions from my fighting days.

SheikOfLaBroquerie Joined Thu 01/31/13 Posts: 1973	Wed 01/21/15 03:51 PM
Okay, from here on in, You've got to keep your helmet on. And don't pic any fights without me... You can't have all the fun!

TBRich Joined Fri 11/07/08 Posts: 8232	Wed 01/21/15 03:57 PM
Interestingly, for most of my adult life I have craved quinine which is one of the main treatments.

SheikOfLaBroquerie Joined Thu 01/31/13 Posts: 1973	Wed 01/21/15 04:07 PM
C20 H24 N2 O2 Isn't that more of an antimalarial drug?

SheikOfLaBroquerie Joined Thu 01/31/13 Posts: 1973	Wed 01/21/15 04:35 PM
Something to compliment that reference at Isaiah 54:9... Genesis 9: 12-17

TBRich Joined Fri 11/07/08 Posts: 8232	Wed 01/21/15 04:50 PM
Something to compliment that reference at Isaiah 54:9... Genesis 9: 12-17 For the mountains may be taken away, and the hills be moved out of their places, but my love will not be taken from you, or my agreement of peace broken, says the Lord, who has had mercy on you. Isaiah 54:10 I am sorry that I am not versed enough to quote the Quran as easily. Yes, it is generally used for malaria

SheikOfLaBroquerie Joined Thu 01/31/13 Posts: 1973	Wed 01/21/15 04:57 PM
Both verses are from the Bible and regarding Noah. Noah is spoken of in the Quran as well. Many would think the Great Flood is just a fable. But it really happened.

Th3Dv8 Joined Sun 09/29/13 Posts: 142	Thu 01/22/15 12:21 AM Edited by Th3Dv8 on Thu 01/22/15 12:28 AM
Scarcely, is a single quote even anything remotely from the Quran. Bogus, through and through! Anybody with a computer can easily look-up several translations of the Quran and confirm that you're a complete liar. Serious , have not you read the Quaran , these are very definately in there . Smite the neck of the unbelievers and kill both christian and jew ... Peacefull ? submit to Allah or Die ...

Th3Dv8 Joined Sun 09/29/13 Posts: 142	Thu 01/22/15 12:23 AM
TB Rich, have You got whatever it is that Davidben1 has got? (I'm getting concerned) LOL, no, however the strokes I have had appear to have left me with PBA and it makes me unusually emotional which is sometimes very difficult to hide. LOL- I feel like a woman! Agggh and on her period! Apparently it takes a while for the treatment to take effect. Plus, every doctor who has seen MRIs of my brain appear more interested in the fact that it is covered in spots-Chronic Traumatic Brain Injury or some such nonsense, apparently too many concussions from my fighting days. Sorry to hear that .

SheikOfLaBroquerie Joined Thu 01/31/13 Posts: 1973	Thu 01/22/15 03:51 PM
If You must really know Th3Dv8, I read the entire Quran yearly. It's only about 3/4 the size of the Christian Texts. (Matthew thru to Revelations) You couldn't even give an authentic quote from the Quran in defence of these bogus threads. The fellow who originally posted them, I've long-since forgiven, but You're the sort of contemptible wretch who'd of given him this crap. Gosh...! You should try to advocate some 'Christian Virtues' like not lying.

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Thu 01/22/15 04:10 PM
Scarcely, is a single quote even anything remotely from the Quran. Bogus, through and through! Anybody with a computer can easily look-up several translations of the Quran and confirm that you're a complete liar. Serious , have not you read the Quaran , these are very definately in there . Smite the neck of the unbelievers and kill both christian and jew ... Peacefull ? submit to Allah or Die ... pick any quote he posted and google it... they are nothing as what what the Qur'an actually says... people are the problem, not scriptures or bibles... bad people make stupid people do evil things, in any religion...

Th3Dv8 Joined Sun 09/29/13 Posts: 142	Fri 01/23/15 02:08 AM Edited by Th3Dv8 on Fri 01/23/15 02:15 AM
Scarcely, is a single quote even anything remotely from the Quran. Bogus, through and through! Anybody with a computer can easily look-up several translations of the Quran and confirm that you're a complete liar. Serious , have not you read the Quaran , these are very definately in there . Smite the neck of the unbelievers and kill both christian and jew ... Peacefull ? submit to Allah or Die ... pick any quote he posted and google it... they are nothing as what what the Qur'an actually says... people are the problem, not scriptures or bibles... bad people make stupid people do evil things, in any religion... Ok i,ll take that challenge , what are ppl not getting is beyond me . Bout time the U.S and the world told it as it is : koran 47:4 Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them. Sahih International:-http://quran.com/47/4 So when you meet those who disbelieve [in battle], strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them, then secure their bonds, and either [confer] favor afterwards or ransom [them] until the war lays down its burdens. That [is the command]. And if Allah had willed, He could have taken vengeance upon them [Himself], but [He ordered armed struggle] to test some of you by means of others. And those who are killed in the cause of Allah - never will He waste their deeds. Notice how they [insert] [in battle] if not kill then ransom excactly as ISIS is doing 'true iSlam ... Next ( just add hoc here im not doing every one , im picking at /random , they are all excactly as in the Quaran, what google are you using ?) koran 8:12 Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Quran. Sahih International :-http://quran.com/8/12 [Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip." Strike them on their necks is to behead , read the context of the Quran . Next koran 5:33 Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam. Sahih International - http://quran.com/5/33 Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment, If you do not convert to iSlam you are AT WAR with iSlams 'worldwide caliphate ' ok i,ll go one more as this is a mirror of everything that was posted and top of the list of my google search and i,ll put a thousand dollars up to anybody that can show me 'one' Quaran that says anything different ? people need to understand the msg in the quran , understand the War Warrior mohammud then you will know these verses are 'in context' Next koran 3:85 Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable. Sahih International:-http://quran.com/3/85 And whoever desires other than Islam as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers. hmm different ? ok one more :- koran 9:30 The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them. Sahih International:-http://quran.com/9/30 The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah ." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded? ok gota go one more :- koran 3:28 Muslims must not take the infidels as friends. Sahih International:-http://quran.com/3/28 Let not believers take disbelievers[infidels thats us] as allies rather than believers. And whoever [of you] does that has nothing with Allah , except when taking precaution against them in prudence. And Allah warns you of Himself, and to Allah is the [final] destination. Get your facts right on the 'peacefull' religion of iSlam... The 'promised land' which God promised The Jews/Israel from the nile to the euphrates is excactly what ISIL is after the levant . Islamic state of Iraq and the Levant .the land promised the jew .. http://www.makehummusnotwar.com/history_6.html Hence Israel being removed from modern arab maps , This is a prophecy unfolding before your eyes and there's more than a few christians that are expecting the Anti-Christ to come from ISLAM .. It certainly wouldnt surprize me . Jesus said :- ' NO ONE comes to the father except through me '

SheikOfLaBroquerie Joined Thu 01/31/13 Posts: 1973	Fri 01/23/15 03:03 PM Edited by SheikOfLaBroquerie on Fri 01/23/15 03:50 PM
Th3Dv8... Absolutely every one of these 'more legitimate' verses are in in conjunction with the fact that an enemy has already attacked the Muslim community first. Please tell me, just how much should people be murdered, stolen-from, raped, tortured, having homes burn-to-the-ground? Absolutely every one of these prescribed actions are in retaliation for a list of atrocities from an enemy who's merciless.

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messi_is_a_tim_1888 Joined Fri 11/28/14 Posts: 3309	Fri 01/23/15 03:36 PM
Where's the OP? Has he thrown in the towel and admitted defeat?

SheikOfLaBroquerie Joined Thu 01/31/13 Posts: 1973	Fri 01/23/15 03:45 PM Edited by SheikOfLaBroquerie on Fri 01/23/15 03:53 PM
Where's the OP? Has he thrown in the towel and admitted defeat? Who...? The Ontario Police...? I think there's more than one of them, and I'm out if their jurisdiction.