Topic: MLK Jr's Son Obliterates The Dishonorable Al
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Thu 01/29/15 08:51 AM
Big Al's intentions are good, nothing wrong with helping others until racism is brought in. Big Al lets his racism show. That's where he looses all credibility.

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Thu 01/29/15 09:06 AM

he helps himself, so do I

so does everyone here,, that's why we are so particular about paying 'taxes' which we don't feel are for 'us'


he ALSO helps others




that is only a smokescreen to whats really going down

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Thu 01/29/15 09:11 AM

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Thu 01/29/15 09:13 AM





Some people will overlook the controversies pertaining to Tawana Brawley, Freddie's Fashion Mart, Crown Heights and Duke University because Al Sharpton is one of them, a liberal Democrat.



how long ago was the most recent occasion of Sharpton being 'wrong'

He wasnt wrong on Ferguson and addressing unnecessary killing of citizens, the treatment of citizens by those in authority, and the accountability of authority to its citizens.


so, can we get some RECENT history to complain about,, please?

if not, can we allow people the reality of growth and knowledge and aknowledge what they have done LATELY,,?,,,,(meaning sooner than a decade or TWO decades ago)


ok, how about the fact that corporations pay him to not screech racism?

http://nypost.com/2015/01/04/how-sharpton-gets-paid-to-not-cry-racism-at-corporations/

the fight lives on...laugh helping blacks there, isn't he...


he has contributors, their reasons for contributing can be speculated all day long

AND

he doesnt just help blacks
he also helps others like disenfranchised workers and the lgbt community and impoverished/urban communities

expand your knowledge beyond what media chooses to include
he helps himself...sorry your unable to see this, but thats the way it is...
well,he's taking that;"God helps him who helps himself",just a tad to literal!:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

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Thu 01/29/15 10:54 AM

Big Al's intentions are good, nothing wrong with helping others until racism is brought in. Big Al lets his racism show. That's where he looses all credibility.



if credibility is lost while showing racism,, there are very few left to do good work,,,,,


Im glad not only the 'saints' choose to take action,,,

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Thu 01/29/15 10:55 AM




I love this one,,,,what 'special privileges' would that be?

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Thu 01/29/15 10:56 AM






Some people will overlook the controversies pertaining to Tawana Brawley, Freddie's Fashion Mart, Crown Heights and Duke University because Al Sharpton is one of them, a liberal Democrat.



how long ago was the most recent occasion of Sharpton being 'wrong'

He wasnt wrong on Ferguson and addressing unnecessary killing of citizens, the treatment of citizens by those in authority, and the accountability of authority to its citizens.


so, can we get some RECENT history to complain about,, please?

if not, can we allow people the reality of growth and knowledge and aknowledge what they have done LATELY,,?,,,,(meaning sooner than a decade or TWO decades ago)


ok, how about the fact that corporations pay him to not screech racism?

http://nypost.com/2015/01/04/how-sharpton-gets-paid-to-not-cry-racism-at-corporations/

the fight lives on...laugh helping blacks there, isn't he...


he has contributors, their reasons for contributing can be speculated all day long

AND

he doesnt just help blacks
he also helps others like disenfranchised workers and the lgbt community and impoverished/urban communities

expand your knowledge beyond what media chooses to include
he helps himself...sorry your unable to see this, but thats the way it is...
well,he's taking that;"God helps him who helps himself",just a tad to literal!:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:


why not?, he works everyday, he has every right to earn an income from his work as anyone else,,,,

and he also does many things FREE to help others



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Thu 01/29/15 02:01 PM



and so is his repayment plan

and irrelevant as well

how many here have his net worth or run as many different organizations and businesses?

taxes can get missed,,,,but that has nothing to do with his work in civil rights,,,




Well, actually in the business world the money that his organizations rack in and added to his net worth of 5 Million.. is not even on blip on the screen. He would be considered a " Mom & Pop" organization

Running multiple companies or a corporation with sub companies of that size is easy if you have any business or leadership qualities, which he clearly does not

One of the taxes he didn't pay was Federal payroll tax.. Paying Federal payroll tax is accounting 101... automatic.. ( its the one tax you make sure your finance dept. pays.) just like paying the rent for your offices.. automatic. ( which he has stiffed landlords on too). Any bookkeeper knows this, as does any accountant.

The IRS will not automatically hit you with penalties and interest.. if they think what you or your companies did was a honest mistake... but they will "hammer you" if they feel you did it intentionally.. he is getting hammered with penalties.. why.. because his lack of paying his taxes spans years.. not a 1 year oversight.

This on top of the other liens he had or has levied against him and his corporations by a multitude of service or real estate companies.. all for non payment of services rendered. legitimate services rendered. Many of these services required a contract to be signed in advance. But clearly signing a binding contract means nothing to him as well.

After all... he's AL SHARPTON

The above actions on HIS part define HIS character and moral structure

He is a leach.. a tax cheat.. a deadbeat... a ambulance chaser.

But hey, everyone gets to pick their hero's.. and he's one of yours.. good for you.






The IRS will not automatically hit you with penalties and interest.. if they think what you or your companies did was a honest mistake


THIS IS NOT TRUE

where are you getting your information?

do you run many companies or head many organizations? are you an accountant or an IRS rep?

lol

to reiterate,,,,I have no 'hero'

I give credit where credit is due

and I give credit to Sharpton for staying in the struggle for civil rights and for staying involved in the lives of impoverished people, underserved communities, and young people trying to make their lives better, and for staying a force to be heard and a resource for those who would otherwise go unheard,,,


To answer your questions

yes I do run many companies under the umbrella of one mother corporation. On a international level,on 4 continents. The subsidiaries are based on the country that we are selling in or that we are manufacturing the product in.

Am I a accountant or a IRS rep? .. no.. I have financial departments ( again, based on country and need). some specialized in such complex taxes as duty or duty drawback tasks, or country/ local tax structures that are very complex

Have we ever not paid payroll tax ( or any other tax) that we were obligated to pay...in any country... no...


You see, a leader does not have to know every little aspect of every task involved in running his operations. He just has to be smart enough to surround himself with the people who do know those tasks, the rules & regulations. That is how a business is run. That is how a leader operates.

All under the fundamental mindset of doing what is legal based on the country you are operating in...meaning paying your taxes. So, please don't tell me that Sharpton's tax's are complex. Again, the size of his operation is "zip" in the real business world.

It becomes complex when people start using corp funds for their own personal use. (it's worst when the funds were donations) then claiming the usage was for business.. when it was not.

Tax aside, and regarding liens.. rule of thumb in business... you don't stiff people.. clearly, Sharpton hasn't learned that rule yet. And that is a clear indication of a flawed in ones character. You lead by example.. so his example is what..." screw them.. don't pay them".... nice message to send across to those that follow you. Its bad to stiff people.. isn't it.. MS?

And you MS.. you run how many companies?

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Thu 01/29/15 02:09 PM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 01/29/15 02:11 PM
You see, a leader does not have to know every little aspect of every task involved in running his operations. He just has to be smart enough to surround himself with the people who do know those tasks, the rules & regulations. That is how a business is run. That is how a leader operates.




I absolutely agree.

I dont believe everyone is great at leading EVERYTHING.

I dont run companies, but I do wonderful at running a household, teaching a classroom,, etc



and I also believe not being good at leading some things doesnt equate to not being good at leading anything

I also believe that not being a good leader is a sign of having bad 'character'

or

an indication that one shouldnt have a voice or fight for causes they believe in,,,


ps

its kewl to know even millionaires post here on mingle

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Thu 01/29/15 02:16 PM





I love this one,,,,what 'special privileges' would that be?


sounds like the gays response here.. well, for starters, how about committing crimes and not get punished?

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Thu 01/29/15 02:17 PM






I love this one,,,,what 'special privileges' would that be?


sounds like the gays response here.. well, for starters, how about committing crimes and not get punished?


why is there such a disproportionate number of minorities incarcerated then?

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Thu 01/29/15 02:25 PM
there is no "dishonorable"...

for is cold better than hot.

kind better than unkind.

user better than taker.

how would the human intellect know any parameters of difference, lest it seen in reality both, in real life, so than as "real"...

the "mistakes", the evil, the bad, one self believes in, are both perfect, acting out a role, to create "human knowing, intellect it self".

so which is more or less of good, or evil, or of bad, or of the devil, or of god.

the answer to the wise who sea.

neither.

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Thu 01/29/15 02:28 PM







I love this one,,,,what 'special privileges' would that be?


sounds like the gays response here.. well, for starters, how about committing crimes and not get punished?


why is there such a disproportionate number of minorities incarcerated then?


bad parenting? making bad decisions? getting caught? lets just give black folks a break when they get arrested, because so many are already in jail...whoa

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Thu 01/29/15 03:12 PM

You see, a leader does not have to know every little aspect of every task involved in running his operations. He just has to be smart enough to surround himself with the people who do know those tasks, the rules & regulations. That is how a business is run. That is how a leader operates.




I absolutely agree.

I dont believe everyone is great at leading EVERYTHING.

I dont run companies, but I do wonderful at running a household, teaching a classroom,, etc



and I also believe not being good at leading some things doesnt equate to not being good at leading anything

I also believe that not being a good leader is a sign of having bad 'character'

or

an indication that one shouldnt have a voice or fight for causes they believe in,,,


ps

its kewl to know even millionaires post here on mingle


My financial worth was never mentioned by me, and frankly has nothing to do with the subject matter. You asked me if I have ever run a company.. and I answered you.

In one of your earlier post on a different subject you mentioned that you work in a finance dept.( if I am not mistaken) so I spoke of finance to you., but above you state a classroom?..

And as I stated, stiffing people (liens) has nothing to do with business.. but everything to do with deception... thus character flaw... of the serious nature

But by all means... follow that leader.. I prefer not to.




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Thu 01/29/15 05:31 PM
Edited by davidben1 on Thu 01/29/15 05:49 PM
it would be wise, most in these present days, to make most important the equal worth of ALL humans, versus some as more scorned, persecuted, than others.

but those, who in their heart wish to make it about them self as more persecuted, the religious, the minority, the insecure, the self pitying, will always gravitate to the hollow voices of empty empathy, who make it about self as treated unfair, and without money or wealth, so exploit, those without neither.

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Thu 01/29/15 05:46 PM
if credibility is lost while showing racism,, there are very few left to do good work,,,,,


Projecting one person's racism onto others isn't a nice thing to do, and it doesn't enable one to win an argument.

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Thu 01/29/15 06:02 PM
those who believe in the credibility of sum, more than other's, blind them self to the all of reality.

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Thu 01/29/15 06:33 PM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 01/29/15 06:38 PM








I love this one,,,,what 'special privileges' would that be?


sounds like the gays response here.. well, for starters, how about committing crimes and not get punished?


why is there such a disproportionate number of minorities incarcerated then?


bad parenting? making bad decisions? getting caught? lets just give black folks a break when they get arrested, because so many are already in jail...whoa



they get breaks because SO many get arrested?

seems like an oxymoron, dontcha think?

but it is easier for people to just feel its an inate demographic trait and not a systemic issue,,,,

and that's their prerogative,, I don't agree, the history of the US and my experience as a black person around black people, and my research about 'implicit' (that's the subliminal stuff we don't realize is manipulating our choices and thoughts) associations in this country,


lead me to believe that a systemic issue is much more ROBABLE/LIKELY

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Thu 01/29/15 06:36 PM


You see, a leader does not have to know every little aspect of every task involved in running his operations. He just has to be smart enough to surround himself with the people who do know those tasks, the rules & regulations. That is how a business is run. That is how a leader operates.




I absolutely agree.

I dont believe everyone is great at leading EVERYTHING.

I dont run companies, but I do wonderful at running a household, teaching a classroom,, etc



and I also believe not being good at leading some things doesnt equate to not being good at leading anything

I also believe that not being a good leader is a sign of having bad 'character'

or

an indication that one shouldnt have a voice or fight for causes they believe in,,,


ps

its kewl to know even millionaires post here on mingle


My financial worth was never mentioned by me, and frankly has nothing to do with the subject matter. You asked me if I have ever run a company.. and I answered you.

In one of your earlier post on a different subject you mentioned that you work in a finance dept.( if I am not mistaken) so I spoke of finance to you., but above you state a classroom?..

And as I stated, stiffing people (liens) has nothing to do with business.. but everything to do with deception... thus character flaw... of the serious nature

But by all means... follow that leader.. I prefer not to.







your experience was implied to be similar to Sharptons,, your responsibilities where taxes are concerned were kind of put out there for an example of the standard Sharpton should have

I just figured, you had a similar standing and complexity to your business dealings that he did,,,


and again,, for about the HUNDREDTH time, I don't have people I 'follow', I have causes and beliefs and people have similar causes and beliefs

I have similar belief in the cause that Sharpton takes up,,,and I give him credit for his effort to do so,,

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Thu 01/29/15 06:37 PM

if credibility is lost while showing racism,, there are very few left to do good work,,,,,


Projecting one person's racism onto others isn't a nice thing to do, and it doesn't enable one to win an argument.


there is no argument to win,, there are different opinions and perceptions and always will be,,,,