Topic: Jordanian pilot burned alive
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Fri 02/06/15 03:35 AM
I know nothing about the King of Jordan, but I like what he did today.

No BS.. no debate.. no delay.. He fired up the jets and hit ISIS. Not only in Syria.. but in Iraq too.. When asked why Iraq... he said... what do you mean.. why? because they are there too.. and we told you we were going after them.. wherever they are.

That is the mentality needed to wipe these animals off the planet.

I am sure they spoke to other allied Forces there beforehand.. including us ( U.S.).. And I think the talk may have gone a bit like this " you may want to move you jets out of the way... we'll be taking off shortly.


And that is fine with me... Hit em hard King!!

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Fri 02/06/15 04:14 AM

I know nothing about the King of Jordan, but I like what he did today.

No BS.. no debate.. no delay.. He fired up the jets and hit ISIS. Not only in Syria.. but in Iraq too.. When asked why Iraq... he said... what do you mean.. why? because they are there too.. and we told you we were going after them.. wherever they are.

That is the mentality needed to wipe these animals off the planet.

I am sure they spoke to other allied Forces there beforehand.. including us ( U.S.).. And I think the talk may have gone a bit like this " you may want to move you jets out of the way... we'll be taking off shortly.


And that is fine with me... Hit em hard King!!
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Fri 02/06/15 04:52 AM
http://www.steynonline.com/6793/the-glamor-of-evil

On Tuesday the Islamic State released a 22-minute video showing Flight Lieutenant Muath al-Kasasbeh of the Royal Jordanian Air Force being doused in petrol and burned to death. It is an horrific way to die, and Flt Lt al-Kasasbeh showed uncommon bravery, standing stiff and dignified as the flames consumed him. And then he toppled, and the ISIS cameras rolled on, until what was left was charred and shapeless and unrecognizable as human.

King Abdullah's response to this barbaric act was to execute two ISIS prisoners the following morning, including the evil woman who was part of the cell that blew up the lobby of my favorite hotel in Amman, the Grand Hyatt.

President Obama's response was to go to the National Prayer Breakfast and condescendingly advise us - as if it's some dazzlingly original observation rather than the lamest faculty-lounge relativist bromide - to "remember that during the Crusades and the Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ".

Gee, thanks. If you're watching on ISIS premium cable, I'm sure that's a great consolation when they're reaching for the scimitar and readying you for your close-up. Oh, and, even by the standards of his usual rote cookie-cutter shoulder-to-shoulder shtick that follows every ISIS beheading of western captives, the President could barely conceal his boredom at having to discuss the immolation of Flt Lt al-Kasasbeh:

Aaand it, I think, will redouble [pause] the vigilance aaand determination on the part of our global coalition to, uh, make sure that they are degraded and ultimately defeated. Ummmm. [Adopting a whimsical look] It also just indicates the degree to which whatever ideology they're operating off of, it's bankrupt. [Suppressing a smirk, pivoting to a much more important subject.] We're here to talk about how to make people healthier and make their lives better.
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Fri 02/06/15 11:25 AM

I know nothing about the King of Jordan, but I like what he did today.

No BS.. no debate.. no delay.. He fired up the jets and hit ISIS. Not only in Syria.. but in Iraq too.. When asked why Iraq... he said... what do you mean.. why? because they are there too.. and we told you we were going after them.. wherever they are.

That is the mentality needed to wipe these animals off the planet.

I am sure they spoke to other allied Forces there beforehand.. including us ( U.S.).. And I think the talk may have gone a bit like this " you may want to move you jets out of the way... we'll be taking off shortly.


And that is fine with me... Hit em hard King!!


The actions of a real leader with a real mission shine in comparison.

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Sat 02/07/15 01:46 AM
It's funny how this guy is being praised on this thread but he is a bad guy on mine..

And by the way we should remember about the Crusades and the Inquisition..don't act like Christians have a good record but muslims don't. All religions have caused big problems because in the hands of men anything can become a weapon.

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Sat 02/07/15 02:00 AM

It's funny how this guy is being praised on this thread but he is a bad guy on mine..

And by the way we should remember about the Crusades and the Inquisition..don't act like Christians have a good record but muslims don't. All religions have caused big problems because in the hands of men anything can become a weapon.


Islam drew first Blood!

http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/Arlandson/crusades_timeline.htm

http://www.umich.edu/~eng415/timeline/precursors.html

http://www.umich.edu/~eng415/timeline/detailedtimeline.html

http://americathebattlefield.blogspot.ch/2014/09/september-11-1683-start-of-muslim-holy-war.html

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Sat 02/07/15 04:23 AM

It's funny how this guy is being praised on this thread but he is a bad guy on mine..

And by the way we should remember about the Crusades and the Inquisition..don't act like Christians have a good record but muslims don't. All religions have caused big problems because in the hands of men anything can become a weapon.


It's almost like you are making excuses for these scum bags, 2 wrongs don't make a right.
You're hatred of men is one thing but your view on these vermin is another.
It's funny how on your profile you don't state your religion, I'm a catholic and proud, what's your excuse, are you a little ashamed of it.

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Sat 02/07/15 05:05 AM


It's funny how this guy is being praised on this thread but he is a bad guy on mine..

And by the way we should remember about the Crusades and the Inquisition..don't act like Christians have a good record but muslims don't. All religions have caused big problems because in the hands of men anything can become a weapon.


It's almost like you are making excuses for these scum bags, 2 wrongs don't make a right.
You're hatred of men is one thing but your view on these vermin is another.
It's funny how on your profile you don't state your religion, I'm a catholic and proud, what's your excuse, are you a little ashamed of it.


I am not excusing ISIS and don't worry they will have what's coming to them. I don't hate men, just the way most of them act. I don't belong to any particular religion. I believe everything that exists can exist minus God, or there could be a God, I don't assume to know either way and that keeps me humble.

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Sat 02/07/15 08:04 AM

It's funny how this guy is being praised on this thread but he is a bad guy on mine..

And by the way we should remember about the Crusades and the Inquisition..don't act like Christians have a good record but muslims don't. All religions have caused big problems because in the hands of men anything can become a weapon.



Have you ever read what caused the "Crusades"?

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Sat 02/07/15 08:12 AM


It's funny how this guy is being praised on this thread but he is a bad guy on mine..

And by the way we should remember about the Crusades and the Inquisition..don't act like Christians have a good record but muslims don't. All religions have caused big problems because in the hands of men anything can become a weapon.



Have you ever read what caused the "Crusades"?


Dumb men fighting over false Gods.

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Sat 02/07/15 08:29 AM

It's funny how this guy is being praised on this thread but he is a bad guy on mine..

And by the way we should remember about the Crusades and the Inquisition..don't act like Christians have a good record but muslims don't. All religions have caused big problems because in the hands of men anything can become a weapon.


I don't see anyone saying we should forget the past. No one is praising the inquisition and crusades.
And have Christians not progressed over the last 300 or so years?
When will ISIS progress and join us in this century.

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Sat 02/07/15 08:58 AM


It's funny how this guy is being praised on this thread but he is a bad guy on mine..

And by the way we should remember about the Crusades and the Inquisition..don't act like Christians have a good record but muslims don't. All religions have caused big problems because in the hands of men anything can become a weapon.


I don't see anyone saying we should forget the past. No one is praising the inquisition and crusades.
And have Christians not progressed over the last 300 or so years?
When will ISIS progress and join us in this century.


There was a link by a poster above about Obama reminding us to remember the Crusades, so my point which cam from there is that all religions went through wars we need to be patient with Islam as a religion, but we should also not put up with terrorists.
Christians are a little better than 300 years ago, but I think Christians would go extinct if there were no wordly gains to be had by misusing their religion. That's the truth, morals don't matter to those who would have none without their God telling them to.
ISIS is a terrorist organization and they need to stop or be stopped.


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Sun 02/08/15 06:34 AM



It's funny how this guy is being praised on this thread but he is a bad guy on mine..

And by the way we should remember about the Crusades and the Inquisition..don't act like Christians have a good record but muslims don't. All religions have caused big problems because in the hands of men anything can become a weapon.



Have you ever read what caused the "Crusades"?


Dumb men fighting over false Gods.

THE TRUTH ABOUT THE CRUSADES

The First Crusade began in 1095
460 years after the first Christian city was overrun by Muslim armies.
457 years after Jerusalem was conquered by Muslim armies.
453 years after Egypt was taken by Muslim armies.
443 years after Muslims first plundered Italy.
427 years after Muslim armies first laid siege to the Christian capital of Constantinople.
380 years after Spain was conquered by Muslim armies.
363 years after France was first attacked by Muslim armies.
249 years after the capital of the Christian world, Rome itself, was sacked by a Muslim army.

And only after centuries of church burning, killings, enslavement, and forced conversions of Christians.

By the time the Crusades finally began, Muslim armies had conquered two-thirds of the Christian world.

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Sun 02/08/15 07:44 AM
1098 The Crusaders take Edessa and then Antioch, and
triumph over a Muslim rescue army commanded by Karbuqa, ruler of Mosul. The incident of
cannibalism by the crusaders in Maarra.
"For three days they put people to the
sword, killig more than a hundred thousand people and taking many prisoners." (Ibn
al-Athir)

"In Maarra our troops boiled pagan adults in cooking pots; they impaled children on
spits and devoured them grilled." (Radulph of Caen)

1099 Fall of Jerusalem, followed by massacres and
plunder by the crusaders.
The population of the holy city was put to the sword, and the
crusaders spent a week massacring Muslims. They killed more than seventy thousand people
in Al-Aqsa Mosque. The Jews had gathered in their synagogue and the crusaders burned them
alive. They also destroyed the monuments of saints, the mosque of Umar and the tomb of
Abraham.


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Sun 02/08/15 08:05 AM

1098 The Crusaders take Edessa and then Antioch, and
triumph over a Muslim rescue army commanded by Karbuqa, ruler of Mosul. The incident of
cannibalism by the crusaders in Maarra.
"For three days they put people to the
sword, killig more than a hundred thousand people and taking many prisoners." (Ibn
al-Athir)

"In Maarra our troops boiled pagan adults in cooking pots; they impaled children on
spits and devoured them grilled." (Radulph of Caen)

1099 Fall of Jerusalem, followed by massacres and
plunder by the crusaders.
The population of the holy city was put to the sword, and the
crusaders spent a week massacring Muslims. They killed more than seventy thousand people
in Al-Aqsa Mosque. The Jews had gathered in their synagogue and the crusaders burned them
alive. They also destroyed the monuments of saints, the mosque of Umar and the tomb of
Abraham.



Yes that happened. But why?
In any war you can pick one side and show atrocities committed by the other side. One can defend either side by picking out information that backs their beliefs. You stated a date of 1098. Was there nothing preceding that date to cause what happened.

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Sun 02/08/15 08:42 AM



It's funny how this guy is being praised on this thread but he is a bad guy on mine..

And by the way we should remember about the Crusades and the Inquisition..don't act like Christians have a good record but muslims don't. All religions have caused big problems because in the hands of men anything can become a weapon.



Have you ever read what caused the "Crusades"?


Dumb men fighting over false Gods.


Not quite.

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Sun 02/08/15 08:44 AM

Sometimes I wish I'd never been born


well it's too late now.huh

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Sun 02/08/15 09:47 AM
Not quite?

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Mon 02/09/15 07:42 AM

Not quite?


"Some historians see the Crusades as part of a purely defensive war against Islamic conquest; some see them as part of long-running conflict at the frontiers of Europe; and others see them as confident, aggressive, papal-led expansion attempts by Western Christendom. Crusading attracted men and women of all classes. The massacres involved were mainly attributed as being caused by disorder, an epidemic of ergotism and economic distress.[2] The Byzantine Empire was unable to recover territory lost during the initial Muslim conquests under the expansionist Rashidun and Umayyad caliphs in the Arab–Byzantine Wars and the Byzantine–Seljuq Wars; these conquests culminated in the loss of fertile farmlands[3] and vast grazing areas of Anatolia[4] in 1071, after a sound victory by the occupying armies of Seljuk Turks at the Battle of Manzikert. Urban II sought to reunite the Christian church under his leadership by providing Emperor Alexios I with military support."

and I guess one could throw in a few false gods if one wished.whoa

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Mon 02/09/15 08:12 AM


Not quite?


"Some historians see the Crusades as part of a purely defensive war against Islamic conquest; some see them as part of long-running conflict at the frontiers of Europe; and others see them as confident, aggressive, papal-led expansion attempts by Western Christendom. Crusading attracted men and women of all classes. The massacres involved were mainly attributed as being caused by disorder, an epidemic of ergotism and economic distress.[2] The Byzantine Empire was unable to recover territory lost during the initial Muslim conquests under the expansionist Rashidun and Umayyad caliphs in the Arab–Byzantine Wars and the Byzantine–Seljuq Wars; these conquests culminated in the loss of fertile farmlands[3] and vast grazing areas of Anatolia[4] in 1071, after a sound victory by the occupying armies of Seljuk Turks at the Battle of Manzikert. Urban II sought to reunite the Christian church under his leadership by providing Emperor Alexios I with military support."

and I guess one could throw in a few false gods if one wished.whoa


Some historians are wrong. "Purely defensive" does not involve torturing innocent people to death and then eating them.