Topic: WATCH: Mom slaps son for rioting
Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 04/28/15 06:01 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Tue 04/28/15 06:07 PM


As mom333 explains it, the young man had an excuse for trying to engage in criminal activity because someone was the victim of racism.

Meanwhile, back in this universe ...

lets say you have a son you grew him up good but all through your lives you encountered racism constantly. your son friend who you knew was a good kid going to school one day with your son and the police chased him down. beat him senseless and they didn't even say why they were doing it. they try to lock him up but they couldn't make it stick. he goes home and his mom tries to do something but nobody listens, a riot starts because they beat another kid who actually died, your son and his friend join behind you back. can you finish that of ?


We are talking an area of Baltimore here. This is a predominately black area, mostly black police, mostly black city council.

If he experienced racism to that degree it was probably from his own kind, or something he heard, or watched a TV anchor talk about.

mom333's photo
Tue 04/28/15 06:01 PM

Making excuses for criminal behavior enables criminal behavior.
and I have to add im not making excuses for actions either. what is wrong is wrong what is right is right. but nothing is ever just black and white.

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Tue 04/28/15 06:02 PM
Edited by TMommy on Tue 04/28/15 06:16 PM

Making excuses for criminal behavior enables criminal behavior.


it's not that it enables it
or justifies it

but if this child got in trouble in third grade and got expelled
it would be the school counselor's job to try to figure out what is going on
or the school psychologist

if this child got in trouble in high school and ended up in juvenile court before the judge along with community service, counseling would be mandated

but behavior..explicit behavior has implicit causes for it

but once the law is broken he is simply labeled 'criminal'

and judgement is made..people all walk away


it just doesn't set that easy with me
I would the like to know the whys of how he got there in first place



but that is just my view and why I am going into counseling happy
I bow out and leave as quietly as I came in and return you to your discussion flowerforyou

mom333's photo
Tue 04/28/15 06:04 PM



As mom333 explains it, the young man had an excuse for trying to engage in criminal activity because someone was the victim of racism.

Meanwhile, back in this universe ...

lets say you have a son you grew him up good but all through your lives you encountered racism constantly. your son friend who you knew was a good kid going to school one day with your son and the police chased him down. beat him senseless and they didn't even say why they were doing it. they try to lock him up but they couldn't make it stick. he goes home and his mom tries to do something but nobody listens, a riot starts because they beat another kid who actually died, your son and his friend join behind you back. can you finish that of ?


We are talking Baltimore here. This is a predominately black city, mostly black police, mostly black city council.

If he experienced racism to that degree it was probably from his own kind, or something he heard, or watched a TV anchor talk about.
no1 from his own kind??? no2 there is a lot of black on black crime. here in England too. but there is a lot of white on white crime. Indian on Indian crime, Chinese on Chinese crime. racism is racism. anyone of any colour can be a racist.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 04/28/15 06:13 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Tue 04/28/15 06:20 PM




As mom333 explains it, the young man had an excuse for trying to engage in criminal activity because someone was the victim of racism.

Meanwhile, back in this universe ...

lets say you have a son you grew him up good but all through your lives you encountered racism constantly. your son friend who you knew was a good kid going to school one day with your son and the police chased him down. beat him senseless and they didn't even say why they were doing it. they try to lock him up but they couldn't make it stick. he goes home and his mom tries to do something but nobody listens, a riot starts because they beat another kid who actually died, your son and his friend join behind you back. can you finish that of ?


We are talking Baltimore here. This is a predominately black city, mostly black police, mostly black city council.

If he experienced racism to that degree it was probably from his own kind, or something he heard, or watched a TV anchor talk about.
no1 from his own kind??? no2 there is a lot of black on black crime. here in England too. but there is a lot of white on white crime. Indian on Indian crime, Chinese on Chinese crime. racism is racism. anyone of any colour can be a racist.


And this justifies or explains his presence to a criminal activity somehow?

This child and his mom didn't look the type to have suffered any racism to that degree. It looked as if mom had walked there. Imagine his surprise if she hadn't come and he went home to a house in flames with a mother worried frantic for his safety..... to find he was one of those causing it.

Were would his justification for rioting against racism be then?

It appears a lot of his neighbors lost their homes, cars and businesses..... and that is justice?

mom333's photo
Tue 04/28/15 06:25 PM
Edited by mom333 on Tue 04/28/15 06:26 PM





As mom333 explains it, the young man had an excuse for trying to engage in criminal activity because someone was the victim of racism.

Meanwhile, back in this universe ...

lets say you have a son you grew him up good but all through your lives you encountered racism constantly. your son friend who you knew was a good kid going to school one day with your son and the police chased him down. beat him senseless and they didn't even say why they were doing it. they try to lock him up but they couldn't make it stick. he goes home and his mom tries to do something but nobody listens, a riot starts because they beat another kid who actually died, your son and his friend join behind you back. can you finish that of ?


We are talking Baltimore here. This is a predominately black city, mostly black police, mostly black city council.

If he experienced racism to that degree it was probably from his own kind, or something he heard, or watched a TV anchor talk about.
no1 from his own kind??? no2 there is a lot of black on black crime. here in England too. but there is a lot of white on white crime. Indian on Indian crime, Chinese on Chinese crime. racism is racism. anyone of any colour can be a racist.


And this justifies or explains his presence to a criminal activity somehow?

This child and his mom didn't look the type to have suffered any racism to that degree. It looked as if mom had walked there. Imagine his surprise if she hadn't come and he went home to a house in flames with a mother worried frantic for his safety..... to find he was one of those causing it.

Were would his justification for rioting against racism be then?

It appears a lot of his neighbors lost their homes, cars and businesses..... and that is justice?
didn't look the type ? wow do I look the type does anyone. that there sounds extremely ignorant. you don't know them!!! a lot of people have been hurt nobody can deny that. racism hurts everyone that is the point.

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Tue 04/28/15 06:29 PM
This is what the mom had to say. Just saw it on FACEBOOK


BALTIMORE — A mother who was caught on video smacking her 16-year-old son around after he threw objects at police said when they made eye contact, he knew he was in trouble.

"I'm a no-tolerant mother. Everybody that knows me, know I don't play that," Toya Graham, a single mother of six, told CBS News. "He said, when 'I seen you,' he said, 'ma, my instinct was to run.'"

Graham received wide praise from people on social media and even the Baltimore police commissioner, who said more parents should have taken charge of their children like Graham after the riots started.

Graham said she saw her only son wearing a hoodie and mask amid the protesters demonstrating just hours after a funeral for Freddie Gray, a black man who died after suffering an unexplained spinal injury in police custody.

"At that point, I just lost it," she said. "I was shocked, I was angry, because you never want to see your child out there doing that."

Graham said she and her son watched news coverage of the riots together. And then the images of her reaction went viral. Comments started appearing on her son's Facebook page, many in support of her, she said.

"Friends and everybody making comments and saying, 'you know, you shouldn't be mad at your mother, you should give her a hug,'" Graham said.

She hopes it will be a teachable moment.

"And by him seeing everything what's going on I just hope, I'm not sure, but I hope that he understands the seriousness of what was going on last night," she said.

mom333's photo
Tue 04/28/15 06:29 PM
im of I have a school run in the morning.

no photo
Tue 04/28/15 06:30 PM
what i dont get is, if their wasnt a riot going on and she did that, people would be trying to have her charged with child abuse.

mom333's photo
Tue 04/28/15 06:32 PM

This is what the mom had to say. Just saw it on FACEBOOK


BALTIMORE — A mother who was caught on video smacking her 16-year-old son around after he threw objects at police said when they made eye contact, he knew he was in trouble.

"I'm a no-tolerant mother. Everybody that knows me, know I don't play that," Toya Graham, a single mother of six, told CBS News. "He said, when 'I seen you,' he said, 'ma, my instinct was to run.'"

Graham received wide praise from people on social media and even the Baltimore police commissioner, who said more parents should have taken charge of their children like Graham after the riots started.

Graham said she saw her only son wearing a hoodie and mask amid the protesters demonstrating just hours after a funeral for Freddie Gray, a black man who died after suffering an unexplained spinal injury in police custody. violence is wrong on every level.

"At that point, I just lost it," she said. "I was shocked, I was angry, because you never want to see your child out there doing that."

Graham said she and her son watched news coverage of the riots together. And then the images of her reaction went viral. Comments started appearing on her son's Facebook page, many in support of her, she said.

"Friends and everybody making comments and saying, 'you know, you shouldn't be mad at your mother, you should give her a hug,'" Graham said.

She hopes it will be a teachable moment.

"And by him seeing everything what's going on I just hope, I'm not sure, but I hope that he understands the seriousness of what was going on last night," she said.

mom333's photo
Tue 04/28/15 06:32 PM

what i dont get is, if their wasnt a riot going on and she did that, people would be trying to have her charged with child abuse.
exactly

mom333's photo
Tue 04/28/15 06:33 PM


This is what the mom had to say. Just saw it on FACEBOOK


BALTIMORE — A mother who was caught on video smacking her 16-year-old son around after he threw objects at police said when they made eye contact, he knew he was in trouble.

"I'm a no-tolerant mother. Everybody that knows me, know I don't play that," Toya Graham, a single mother of six, told CBS News. "He said, when 'I seen you,' he said, 'ma, my instinct was to run.'"

Graham received wide praise from people on social media and even the Baltimore police commissioner, who said more parents should have taken charge of their children like Graham after the riots started.

Graham said she saw her only son wearing a hoodie and mask amid the protesters demonstrating just hours after a funeral for Freddie Gray, a black man who died after suffering an unexplained spinal injury in police custody. violence is wrong on every level.

"At that point, I just lost it," she said. "I was shocked, I was angry, because you never want to see your child out there doing that."

Graham said she and her son watched news coverage of the riots together. And then the images of her reaction went viral. Comments started appearing on her son's Facebook page, many in support of her, she said.

"Friends and everybody making comments and saying, 'you know, you shouldn't be mad at your mother, you should give her a hug,'" Graham said.

She hopes it will be a teachable moment.

"And by him seeing everything what's going on I just hope, I'm not sure, but I hope that he understands the seriousness of what was going on last night," she said.

violence is wrong on every level.

no photo
Tue 04/28/15 06:35 PM
Your views make you sound like an irrational, angry black woman who is also bitter about your experiences and that of your family. I can understand your hatred and anger against the system and certain people. But breaking the law, hurting one's community and railing against authority is only going to make matters WORSE. This is called BEING PLAYED. You played right into the hands of the police state because they were hoping that is exactly how you would react. Now, they have a reason to further control you. That mother is a heroine! She not only saved her son from an arrest and/or criminal record and prevented him from being just another statistic, she outsmarted the police state and the system by not playing into their hands by choosing a peaceful resolution instead. You could learn a lot from her, Mommy. Don't let your bitterness and hatred blind you to the higher cause and only make matters worse. The violence and looting which you are bitterly and ignorantly encouraging or condoning never solved anything. USE YOUR HEAD. And teach others to do the same. I fear that you are teaching your children that protesting this way is good and you are only contributing to the problem with your angry attitude. Wake up and wise up and listen closely to the words in this thread. A learning experience for you. Choose wisely for your own sake.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 04/28/15 06:37 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Tue 04/28/15 06:47 PM






As mom333 explains it, the young man had an excuse for trying to engage in criminal activity because someone was the victim of racism.

Meanwhile, back in this universe ...

lets say you have a son you grew him up good but all through your lives you encountered racism constantly. your son friend who you knew was a good kid going to school one day with your son and the police chased him down. beat him senseless and they didn't even say why they were doing it. they try to lock him up but they couldn't make it stick. he goes home and his mom tries to do something but nobody listens, a riot starts because they beat another kid who actually died, your son and his friend join behind you back. can you finish that of ?


We are talking Baltimore here. This is a predominately black city, mostly black police, mostly black city council.

If he experienced racism to that degree it was probably from his own kind, or something he heard, or watched a TV anchor talk about.
no1 from his own kind??? no2 there is a lot of black on black crime. here in England too. but there is a lot of white on white crime. Indian on Indian crime, Chinese on Chinese crime. racism is racism. anyone of any colour can be a racist.


And this justifies or explains his presence to a criminal activity somehow?

This child and his mom didn't look the type to have suffered any racism to that degree. It looked as if mom had walked there. Imagine his surprise if she hadn't come and he went home to a house in flames with a mother worried frantic for his safety..... to find he was one of those causing it.

Were would his justification for rioting against racism be then?

It appears a lot of his neighbors lost their homes, cars and businesses..... and that is justice?
didn't look the type ? wow do I look the type does anyone. that there sounds extremely ignorant. you don't know them!!! a lot of people have been hurt nobody can deny that. racism hurts everyone that is the point.


My dear, I worked and lived 40 years in the ghettos of America for my job. I restored distressed housing and rebuilt many communities suffering from the failures of inner city management, corruption and gang habitation.

I know these people, the stress, the hopelessness. I have never consider skin color a factor in any part of my life. I have never made an enemy but at times have feared greatly for my safety in many situations in these areas.

The group mentality, peer pressure, ignorance and idiocy is what has caused this problem. Not racism!

Racism is what YOU express by your words here though I'm sure it's not your intent

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Tue 04/28/15 06:40 PM
According to mom333's logic, the mother merely stampeded in mother-style.
So, instead of criticizing the mother for stampeding, one should criticize the reason for the stampede.

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 04/28/15 06:41 PM
violence is wrong on every level.


True but you made excuses and had sympathy for rioters hurting innocent people. I am willing to bet a lot of those rioters didn't even know Freddie Gray. Baltimore is a big place...

The mom spoke for herself in the article I posted. i would probably freak out too if I saw my son in a hoodie and mask ready to join the rioters and destroy and loot from innocent people and could get killed/hurt/arrested for soemthing criminal! Not too mention he cpuld have hurt or killed someone innocent.

The kid knew he was wrong when he saw his mom. He knew right from wrong

mom333's photo
Tue 04/28/15 06:42 PM

Your views make you sound like an irrational, angry black woman who is also bitter about your experiences and that of your family. I can understand your hatred and anger against the system and certain people. But breaking the law, hurting one's community and railing against authority is only going to make matters WORSE. This is called BEING PLAYED. You played right into the hands of the police state because they were hoping that is exactly how you would react. Now, they have a reason to further control you. That mother is a heroine! She not only saved her son from an arrest and/or criminal record and prevented him from being just another statistic, she outsmarted the police state and the system by not playing into their hands by choosing a peaceful resolution instead. You could learn a lot from her, Mommy. Don't let your bitterness and hatred blind you to the higher cause and only make matters worse. The violence and looting which you are bitterly and ignorantly encouraging or condoning never solved anything. USE YOUR HEAD. And teach others to do the same. I fear that you are teaching your children that protesting this way is good and you are only contributing to the problem with your angry attitude. Wake up and wise up and listen closely to the words in this thread. A learning experience for you. Choose wisely for your own sake.
that's the thing im not angry and I wasn't angry writing down my views either. im stating that racism is wrong and not listening to people when there is obvious injustice is wrong obviously. unless you go and talk to the rioters you will not understand how angry they are. and if you read all of what I said you will see im actively not condoning violence. even though some of the people on here have been nasty with me. violence is wrong on every level, on both sides.

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 04/28/15 06:43 PM
I wonder how many thigs came to do the clean up? Or did they leave it to the innocent people they victimized. Talk about insult to injury

no photo
Tue 04/28/15 06:45 PM
Funny how the media said, "slapped him upside the head."

no photo
Tue 04/28/15 06:45 PM
Just let the words on this thread sink in. Do not sympathize with thugs and fools.