Remember this one time I was at store shopping and there was this elderly couple walking out in front of me. Raining cats and dogs ..real drencher and he says to her " wait right here sweetheart I will go get car and pull up. I don't want ya ruining your church clothes"

A true Gentleman NEVER leaves skid marks.


old people...ain't it sweet?

In that sort of setting the gentleman should tip a $20, at least, to assure your coat is hung away from others with "issues." Some coats have issues. They know.

See....not feral after all

ya, I think there are gentlemen but the standard is lower mainly I believe because younger gals don't know what the standard is

the guys I like don't care...they keep the same standard as always.

How to tell a true Getleman is that when he opens the door, he greets you and asks if you need assistance with your packages :)

I used to own a 1949 pickup truck. For the life of me I couldn't understand why a previous owner would remove only the driver's side lock tumbler leaving the passenger's side in tact. I was informed by an elder gentleman the reason was because a man would unlock and open the door for his wife and in turn she would unlock the driver's side door from the inside. Truth? I don't know. I like old trucks.

I like these stories. funny the things you notice or get used to. I can remember one things used to drive me nuts when I was married was when my husband would just take off walking as soon as car turned off..by time kids and I got out he was ten feet in front of us. used to drive me nuts. I have a brother in law ...when my nieces were little and they would come to visit he would wait for his wife to.sit down and hand her the baby and then walk out to car without saying word and bring in all the baby stuff..first time I witnessed this my jaw must dropped to floor

it still exists in many who don''t take the concept of 'equal' to the literal extreme,,,,

See now I consider myself fairly independent..raised by single mom. who drove it into my head to get my degree but yet also installed my lessons on how to be ladylike. but that was in 70's and 80's..elaborate please on this?

In my own marriage we had very traditional gender roles in many ways. I stayed home with my children and he worked to provide. I did majority of housework because I believed my job as stay at home mother also included. being a housewife. I did majority of cooking and childcare but this was necessary since he was merchant marine and gone on boats

I remember one time my gal and I had been a feudin' while fixin' to leave the house. We walked outside to mount up, her going to the passenger side and me the driver's.

I got in and waited a minute before saying harshly, "git yer azz in the dam(n) truck!" She just stood there like a statue with her lips pursed tight, eyes full of fury.

A minute later I jumped back out, scowling something fierce and fuming, went around to the passenger side and yanked opened the door. She kissed my jaw for me and jumped up into the seat. I shut the door, returned to the other side and got in slamming my door shut.

As I turned the key to start the truck I looked over glaring at her as she stared straight ahead with this content little grin on her face. Her eyes glanced at me then back straight ahead. A second later she glanced my way again and we both just started to bust a gut a laughin'!

She was madder that I hadn't opened her door for her, as was our custom, than whatever we had been arguing about. AND we had to laugh at her lil stubborn self gettin' over on me!

I'd wait for ya TM! Shoot, I'd open your door, take your hand, and help you out of the car.


But I do miss bench seats cause we used to help an ol gal in the driver side before jumpin in ourselves and snuggling all the way down the road!



(this is what you'd see if we was driving one of them British trucks)

Ya?awww thanks there's a lot to be said for those bench seats

I was sure wishing someone would have given a gal a little schooling about being a lady today.

Young gal, beautiful by anyone's standards, all decked out in some kind of stylish head gear, earring, nails and a fancy bag and shopping bags, sandals on mass transit no less. Now the young thing had legs as you guys would say all the way to heaven and hem line not much lower fit her like a glove. She was delighting in making the bus driver fall all over himself trying to converse with her even though she looked about six months gone.

Well sure enough she fell out and had a seizure and showed the whole world what she had; scraped her legs, ankles, and feet to kingdom come, tore up her sandals. Put her companion into near panic. Probably end her going out with here again. Luckily it wasn't a real long seizure but the bus company is going to cover their behind so she should have a nice fat hospital bill for her adventure. If she would have just used some judgment and kept her behind seated she wouldn't have had near the drama. What ever happen to a lady using some common sense? Wearing clothes appropriate for the situation? (Luckily I heard her say she was epileptic since she had no med alert tag on. Usually when someone falls out on the bus they call the cops thinking it is drugs.) Their condition? Poor baby Hopefully it won't hit the world premature.

What do you mean fell out? She fell off bus?

Not really.
As "ladylike" was a generalized set of behaviors applicable towards everyone, as a subset of the role of "woman."

Now, people are far more specialized.

Among the many roles:
You have a role as a kid.
You have a role as a student.
You have a role as a stranger.
You have a role as a friend.
You have a role as a "good" person.
You have a role as an employee, a career role which can be different than a job role.
You have a role as a self aware "partner," rather than "wife."

All of which "gender" is being trained out of.

Your role is no longer just young lady, young woman, woman, wife, which are pretty similar to each other, with behaviors that build on and complement each other.

You are no longer just a "woman."

You have to learn specialized rules of behavior for constantly changing roles you find yourself.

There's some overlap.

But one universal role and behavior stemming from gender will not be as flexible, adaptable, or useful as specialized roles and behavior unique for each situation.


Not really.
Although people romanticize the term and pretend it separates them from others and makes them "better" than other people.


Whatever individuals training the behavior or learning the behavior define it to mean.

Otherwise, it's just general rules of everyday social living, trying to get along with as many people as possible and being judged "good" by as many as possible.

That's what happens when a huge middle class tries to adopt behaviors of a noble class. They take the obvious, and apply easy to understand meaning, all to make themselves feel better and more important.

It does exist but you have to look harder. I have noticed the same things you have , I see kids back talking their parents at the mall and people cursing in front of the elderly at work. If I did that when I was young my parents would have knocked my teeth out. Just when you think its all going to hell nice people with respect pop up from nowhere. I have seen young men and women displaying caring and respect and it gives me hope that manners and respect are still being taught.

Why thank you sir tom for that rather.involved too long to keep my attention explanation of why there is no such thing as lady or gentleman today and anyone who believes so is holding onto to antiquated ideas of nobility in modern world. I am strangely ok with that

I think it's a competition between men and women anymore as to who is the man..

Changing gender roles..the demise of family structure..the sheer amount of younger people I see shacking up instead of getting married and then bringing kids into world.plunking them with babysitters from day they are born..raising your kids on fast food since neither mama nor daddy can be bothered to cook,hiring tudor to get him or her thru school since no one asks if they have done their homework..inconsistent and random discipline when it does occur which just leaves kid confused

Giving them every little thing they want instead of what they need,trying to be cool parent instead of what they need,parents more concerned with their own selfish needs then with how their kids are going to turn out