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Topic: Bill Cosby - Guilty
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Thu 07/09/15 01:59 PM
Edited by alleoops on Thu 07/09/15 01:59 PM





Ms Harmony, I may have given the benefit of the doubt if there had been one or two accusers but when we are dealing with over 2 dozen accusers and counting, the proof is in the pudding (pop).



nah, cant trust drug users,,,its a sad fact

they are known to lie and being that most all are known to have used/abused,, there still is no 'proof' they were taken advantage of,, vs willingly trading sex for drugs,,,


Hmmmm... I may have to reconsider this now... NOT. laugh flowerforyou


1st they are all lying gold diggers,, now they are all drug abusers. willing to trade their bodies for sex....unbelievable... Lol

This is what agenda's do to people.


its no agenda, its life

I have experience around drug users, I remember the culture decades ago, I know how drugs are/were 'recreational' in many circles

and I know that those who use drugs to escape or be entertained will also lie to cover up or shift blame



being after money is one reason people lie,, yes,,, especially if they go to civil lawsuits for an alleged 'crime' and not to criminal courts

and

drug users are very capable of exaggerating the truth and flat out lying


and

people are often one way in the moment and than another way after 'thinking' about it when things dont turn the way they expected,,,



so, yes,, I can believe it was easy for those in the drug using group to all piggy back each other in some alternate version of what happened


giving drugs for sex, as a victim of sexual assault myself, ,is not even in the same BALLPARK as what I consider to be rape

anymore than giving money for sex,, although one could argue the payor is 'taking advantage' of how desperate the payee is


goes to show, some people will do anything for drugs. Anything. That's why there is so much violence on our streets today.

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Thu 07/09/15 03:15 PM





Ms Harmony, I may have given the benefit of the doubt if there had been one or two accusers but when we are dealing with over 2 dozen accusers and counting, the proof is in the pudding (pop).



nah, cant trust drug users,,,its a sad fact

they are known to lie and being that most all are known to have used/abused,, there still is no 'proof' they were taken advantage of,, vs willingly trading sex for drugs,,,


Hmmmm... I may have to reconsider this now... NOT. laugh flowerforyou


1st they are all lying gold diggers,, now they are all drug abusers. willing to trade their bodies for sex....unbelievable... Lol

This is what agenda's do to people.


its no agenda, its life

I have experience around drug users, I remember the culture decades ago, I know how drugs are/were 'recreational' in many circles

and I know that those who use drugs to escape or be entertained will also lie to cover up or shift blame



being after money is one reason people lie,, yes,,, especially if they go to civil lawsuits for an alleged 'crime' and not to criminal courts

and

drug users are very capable of exaggerating the truth and flat out lying


and

people are often one way in the moment and than another way after 'thinking' about it when things dont turn the way they expected,,,



so, yes,, I can believe it was easy for those in the drug using group to all piggy back each other in some alternate version of what happened


giving drugs for sex, as a victim of sexual assault myself, ,is not even in the same BALLPARK as what I consider to be rape

anymore than giving money for sex,, although one could argue the payor is 'taking advantage' of how desperate the payee is


This is only the beginning. there is no return from here for Cosby ( rightfully so). The entire deposition will come out which will seal his fate as a calculating serial rapist.

Because that is who you are defending.. for you own reasons.

And I am sure he will then do the " I apologies for my actions" thing which is the last part in the denial process. And beg forgiveness from his victims, family and fans.

BTW, I here Rosie Perez left "the view"... could be a great spot for you. A good opportunity to join the other 2 people on the planet who still idolize this monster.

The near future should be very interesting.

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Thu 07/09/15 03:55 PM
I just had a frightening revelation, if Bill Cosby is 77. Then he was 22 when I was born... so how damn long could this be going on ? grumble How many women? How many of these women are dead & no one hears their story or believes them & they never seen justice.? How many have remained silent, for their own reasons? whoa

And since he is 77 years old, we may never get the whole story. And his living victims will never see justice on Earth.
Look out hell, the ' pudding pop ' is knocking on gates pitchfork

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Thu 07/09/15 04:19 PM

I just had a frightening revelation, if Bill Cosby is 77. Then he was 22 when I was born... so how damn long could this be going on ? grumble How many women? How many of these women are dead & no one hears their story or believes them & they never seen justice.? How many have remained silent, for their own reasons? whoa

And since he is 77 years old, we may never get the whole story. And his living victims will never see justice on Earth.
Look out hell, the ' pudding pop ' is knocking on gates pitchfork


And that is one of the saddest parts, Sassy. I am sure many many other women when victimized by this guy. And they were either too embarrassed,, too frightened or to intimidated to come forth. And now because of family reasons, life status reasons or maybe even death are and will always be silent.

This creature used his celebrity status as a license to rape.. with total disregard for his victims and the mental damage he inflicted. Life changing damage. All to fulfill his warped sexual needs. And he used his entertainment talents to dupe the world into thinking he was a pillar of society.

The Pied Piper.

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Thu 07/09/15 04:29 PM
devildog123,

The Pied Piper.. I love that analogy!

It took too damn long to except that perverts & child molesters/ rapists were NOT walking around in rain coats attacking random victims.

It wasn't until the 1970's (73-75) that it was ILLEGAL to rape your wife.
It wasn't until the 1980's that date rape became ILLEGAL.
It wasn't until the 1990's that it became ILLEGAL to have sex with a woman who was incapacitated.
* Drunk, high, unconscious etc *

And still, till this day... we blame the victim, even children. We haven't come very far. :cry:

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Thu 07/09/15 04:38 PM
Let's waterboard his wife and find out what she knows pitchfork


laugh I'm just kidding folks.


Not really smokin

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Thu 07/09/15 04:48 PM

Let's waterboard his wife and find out what she knows pitchfork


laugh I'm just kidding folks.


Not really smokin


Lets find the original med prescriptions.. $10 bucks says Dr. Huxtable wrote them Lol

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Thu 07/09/15 05:39 PM

I just had a frightening revelation, if Bill Cosby is 77. Then he was 22 when I was born... so how damn long could this be going on ? grumble How many women? How many of these women are dead & no one hears their story or believes them & they never seen justice.? How many have remained silent, for their own reasons? whoa

And since he is 77 years old, we may never get the whole story. And his living victims will never see justice on Earth.
Look out hell, the ' pudding pop ' is knocking on gates pitchfork


in the seventies,, he would have been in his forties, when the agency was 'sending him girls'

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Thu 07/09/15 05:42 PM

devildog123,

The Pied Piper.. I love that analogy!

It took too damn long to except that perverts & child molesters/ rapists were NOT walking around in rain coats attacking random victims.

It wasn't until the 1970's (73-75) that it was ILLEGAL to rape your wife.
It wasn't until the 1980's that date rape became ILLEGAL.
It wasn't until the 1990's that it became ILLEGAL to have sex with a woman who was incapacitated.
* Drunk, high, unconscious etc *

And still, till this day... we blame the victim, even children. We haven't come very far. :cry:

blame is a nasty word

responsibility seems to be much more accurate

I don't hold children responsible

I do hold adults responsible


,,I was victim of attempted rape and it went straight to a CRIMINAL court,,(person belongs in jail)

Me nor my family ever went asking for money instead (civil court)

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Thu 07/09/15 05:50 PM

Let's waterboard his wife and find out what she knows pitchfork


laugh I'm just kidding folks.


Not really smokin


I'm with you there.. This b@tch took "Stand By Your Man" to a whole new level. mad
Well her, & if they have any kids alive, that didn't over dose.
The other woman & b@stard son & whom ever else.... will end up with NOTHING laugh

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Thu 07/09/15 05:56 PM


devildog123,

The Pied Piper.. I love that analogy!

It took too damn long to except that perverts & child molesters/ rapists were NOT walking around in rain coats attacking random victims.

It wasn't until the 1970's (73-75) that it was ILLEGAL to rape your wife.
It wasn't until the 1980's that date rape became ILLEGAL.
It wasn't until the 1990's that it became ILLEGAL to have sex with a woman who was incapacitated.
* Drunk, high, unconscious etc *

And still, till this day... we blame the victim, even children. We haven't come very far. :cry:

blame is a nasty word

responsibility seems to be much more accurate

I don't hold children responsible

I do hold adults responsible


,,I was victim of attempted rape and it went straight to a CRIMINAL court,,(person belongs in jail)

Me nor my family ever went asking for money instead (civil court)



Whatever works in your head flowers

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Thu 07/09/15 07:04 PM


I just had a frightening revelation, if Bill Cosby is 77. Then he was 22 when I was born... so how damn long could this be going on ? grumble How many women? How many of these women are dead & no one hears their story or believes them & they never seen justice.? How many have remained silent, for their own reasons? whoa

And since he is 77 years old, we may never get the whole story. And his living victims will never see justice on Earth.
Look out hell, the ' pudding pop ' is knocking on gates pitchfork


in the seventies,, he would have been in his forties, when the agency was 'sending him girls'


So now it is the "Agency" fault. These 30 or so women are some sort of call girl?. One is not responsible for ones actions.. Unbelievable Lol!!

grasping for the last straw?

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Thu 07/09/15 07:21 PM



I just had a frightening revelation, if Bill Cosby is 77. Then he was 22 when I was born... so how damn long could this be going on ? grumble How many women? How many of these women are dead & no one hears their story or believes them & they never seen justice.? How many have remained silent, for their own reasons? whoa

And since he is 77 years old, we may never get the whole story. And his living victims will never see justice on Earth.
Look out hell, the ' pudding pop ' is knocking on gates pitchfork


in the seventies,, he would have been in his forties, when the agency was 'sending him girls'


So now it is the "Agency" fault. These 30 or so women are some sort of call girl?. One is not responsible for ones actions.. Unbelievable Lol!!

grasping for the last straw?


It certaintly doesn't make him less guilty or more likeable.
If anything... the agency is another list of more people he manipulated.

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Thu 07/09/15 07:27 PM

22. Judy Huth. In a lawsuit filed Dec. 2, Huth alleges that she met Cosby in a Los Angeles park in 1974 when she was 15 years old and that he sexually abused her days later at the Playboy Mansion. Huth claims that Cosby provided her with a number of alcoholic drinks before confronting her in a bedroom and using her hand to masturbate himself. Singer says Huth's allegations are false and that she attempted to extort Cosby before filing her suit.




I wonder how many 15yr olds were part of the drugs for sex scene back in the mid 70's?







probably all of those who visited the playboy mansion,,,,lol

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Thu 07/09/15 07:30 PM






Ms Harmony, I may have given the benefit of the doubt if there had been one or two accusers but when we are dealing with over 2 dozen accusers and counting, the proof is in the pudding (pop).



nah, cant trust drug users,,,its a sad fact

they are known to lie and being that most all are known to have used/abused,, there still is no 'proof' they were taken advantage of,, vs willingly trading sex for drugs,,,


Hmmmm... I may have to reconsider this now... NOT. laugh flowerforyou


1st they are all lying gold diggers,, now they are all drug abusers. willing to trade their bodies for sex....unbelievable... Lol

This is what agenda's do to people.


its no agenda, its life

I have experience around drug users, I remember the culture decades ago, I know how drugs are/were 'recreational' in many circles

and I know that those who use drugs to escape or be entertained will also lie to cover up or shift blame



being after money is one reason people lie,, yes,,, especially if they go to civil lawsuits for an alleged 'crime' and not to criminal courts

and

drug users are very capable of exaggerating the truth and flat out lying


and

people are often one way in the moment and than another way after 'thinking' about it when things dont turn the way they expected,,,



so, yes,, I can believe it was easy for those in the drug using group to all piggy back each other in some alternate version of what happened


giving drugs for sex, as a victim of sexual assault myself, ,is not even in the same BALLPARK as what I consider to be rape

anymore than giving money for sex,, although one could argue the payor is 'taking advantage' of how desperate the payee is


This is only the beginning. there is no return from here for Cosby ( rightfully so). The entire deposition will come out which will seal his fate as a calculating serial rapist.

Because that is who you are defending.. for you own reasons.

And I am sure he will then do the " I apologies for my actions" thing which is the last part in the denial process. And beg forgiveness from his victims, family and fans.

BTW, I here Rosie Perez left "the view"... could be a great spot for you. A good opportunity to join the other 2 people on the planet who still idolize this monster.

The near future should be very interesting.


people are imperfect, EVERY SINGLE ONE

so I don't IDOLIZE or DEMONIZE any


this is the same man who publicly called out poor black folks as being irresponsible parents,,,,,no, Im not 'defending' him

Im taking an honest look at the context,, the time in which it occurred and the women involved and how they reacted,, as well as the lives they were living,,,


I believe it is JUST as likely that these were the party girl types who consented to drugs for sex until the end product wasn't as productive as hoped ,,,,as it is that they were 'taken advantage' of by a 'serial rapist'


I believe whole heartedly Cosby was partying and drugging, which makes him a hypocrite

I don't believe that is evidence that he was 'raping' girls,,,

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Thu 07/09/15 07:33 PM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 07/09/15 07:35 PM



I just had a frightening revelation, if Bill Cosby is 77. Then he was 22 when I was born... so how damn long could this be going on ? grumble How many women? How many of these women are dead & no one hears their story or believes them & they never seen justice.? How many have remained silent, for their own reasons? whoa

And since he is 77 years old, we may never get the whole story. And his living victims will never see justice on Earth.
Look out hell, the ' pudding pop ' is knocking on gates pitchfork


in the seventies,, he would have been in his forties, when the agency was 'sending him girls'


So now it is the "Agency" fault. These 30 or so women are some sort of call girl?. One is not responsible for ones actions.. Unbelievable Lol!!

grasping for the last straw?



LOL, that's EXACTLY RIGHT

its very possible/likely this was a call girl deal
its also very true adults are responsible for their actions

the facts are there was sex, there was drugs, cosby was there, the girls were there


the possibilities to explain the facts are

1 cosby and the girls were in a party environment where drugs were traded for sex
or

2.cosby was manipulative and tricked girls into taking drugs that would allow him to rape them,,,


,,,both are possible, I hold none of the parties more credible than any other at this point, because I believe they were ALL PART OF THE DRUG SCENE in some way or another,,,

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Thu 07/09/15 08:27 PM




I just had a frightening revelation, if Bill Cosby is 77. Then he was 22 when I was born... so how damn long could this be going on ? grumble How many women? How many of these women are dead & no one hears their story or believes them & they never seen justice.? How many have remained silent, for their own reasons? whoa

And since he is 77 years old, we may never get the whole story. And his living victims will never see justice on Earth.
Look out hell, the ' pudding pop ' is knocking on gates pitchfork


in the seventies,, he would have been in his forties, when the agency was 'sending him girls'


So now it is the "Agency" fault. These 30 or so women are some sort of call girl?. One is not responsible for ones actions.. Unbelievable Lol!!

grasping for the last straw?



LOL, that's EXACTLY RIGHT

its very possible/likely this was a call girl deal
its also very true adults are responsible for their actions

the facts are there was sex, there was drugs, cosby was there, the girls were there


the possibilities to explain the facts are

1 cosby and the girls were in a party environment where drugs were traded for sex
or

2.cosby was manipulative and tricked girls into taking drugs that would allow him to rape them,,,


,,,both are possible, I hold none of the parties more credible than any other at this point, because I believe they were ALL PART OF THE DRUG SCENE in some way or another,,,


Then please send the link where any of these 30 or so victims background ( then, now or whenever)had ever had a hint of call girl activities, prostitution, or any questionable behavior along those lines. To include the 15 yr. old kid, the Temple University athletic sports administrator and everyone in between.




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Thu 07/09/15 08:34 PM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 07/09/15 08:36 PM





I just had a frightening revelation, if Bill Cosby is 77. Then he was 22 when I was born... so how damn long could this be going on ? grumble How many women? How many of these women are dead & no one hears their story or believes them & they never seen justice.? How many have remained silent, for their own reasons? whoa

And since he is 77 years old, we may never get the whole story. And his living victims will never see justice on Earth.
Look out hell, the ' pudding pop ' is knocking on gates pitchfork


in the seventies,, he would have been in his forties, when the agency was 'sending him girls'


So now it is the "Agency" fault. These 30 or so women are some sort of call girl?. One is not responsible for ones actions.. Unbelievable Lol!!

grasping for the last straw?



LOL, that's EXACTLY RIGHT

its very possible/likely this was a call girl deal
its also very true adults are responsible for their actions

the facts are there was sex, there was drugs, cosby was there, the girls were there


the possibilities to explain the facts are

1 cosby and the girls were in a party environment where drugs were traded for sex
or

2.cosby was manipulative and tricked girls into taking drugs that would allow him to rape them,,,


,,,both are possible, I hold none of the parties more credible than any other at this point, because I believe they were ALL PART OF THE DRUG SCENE in some way or another,,,


Then please send the link where any of these 30 or so victims background ( then, now or whenever)had ever had a hint of call girl activities, prostitution, or any questionable behavior along those lines. To include the 15 yr. old kid, the Temple University athletic sports administrator and everyone in between.







the 15 year old who went to the playboy mansion ?

did someone tell you teens and people in admistrative positions don't use drugs?




innocent til proven guilty, bringing the accusers history out is the attorney's job,,,

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Thu 07/09/15 09:00 PM
you made a statement questioning the 30 or so women's character. All I am asking you to do is to back that claim up.

Can you do that?

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Thu 07/09/15 09:02 PM

you made a statement questioning the 30 or so women's character. All I am asking you to do is to back that claim up.

Can you do that?



when you back up their claims, I will back up my questions,,,

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