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Tue 07/14/15 08:59 PM

16 �These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

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Tue 07/14/15 09:04 PM

i've noticed a lot of issues crop up blaming religion for world problems. it seems useless to argue in favor of or against the favor of one vs another in terms of common sense of decency. human nature is what makes us what we are, not religion per se. as if removing religion will REALLY solve anything...

we are all sinners, and we have all been subjected to another's sins, whether we believe in sin or not.

--seven sins--
anger / wrath / rage / fury
envy / covetousness / jealousy
gluttony / overindulgence
greed / avarice
lust / lechery /
pride / vanity / vainglory
sloth / laziness / discouragement / depression


personally, i think greed is the worst...

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now on the flipside, we are also capable of righteousness. the kind where it speaks for itself and can inspire good.

--seven virtues--
chastity / wholesomeness
diligence / steadfastness / integrity
generosity / selflessness / benevolence
humility / respectfulness
kindness / charity / compassion
patience / forbearance / endurance
temperence / mindfulness / self-control


i think kindness goes the longest way in all of these...

flowerforyou
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Tue 07/14/15 10:11 PM
Edited by Pansytilly on Tue 07/14/15 10:35 PM


Excellent post !! But it needs some deliberation.

Have you ever seen Atheists or Agnostics creating problems in this world,like killing the religious minded, trying to force their ideas over others through violence or trying to create a kingdom in the name of atheism etc. I have observed, agnostics and atheists make the least noise in this world and they are only bothered about their life and family. They are also normal human beings having all vices and virtues.

The problem comes when

- people are incapable of understanding the essence of religion.
- people use religion to gratify their ulterior vices.


you can't rise to power if you don't affiliate yourself with a world religion. doesn't mean these people believe or practice the religion they claim to be a part of.

so yes, i am agreeable to your last statement.


Religious (?) views of...

Adolf Hitler

Hitler's public relationship to religion has been characterized as one of opportunistic pragmatism.[10] His regime did not publicly advocate for state atheism, but it did seek to reduce the influence of Christianity on society. Hitler himself was reluctant to make public attacks on the Church for political reasons, despite the urgings of Nazis like Bormann. Although he was skeptical of religion,[11][12] he did not present himself to the public as an atheist, and spoke of belief in an "almighty creator".[13][14] In private, he could be ambiguous.[15][16] Evans wrote that Hitler repeatedly stated that Nazism was a secular ideology founded on science, which in the long run could not 'co-exist with religion'.


Benito Mussolini

Mussolini'�s father was an atheist, freethinker and anti-Papal and his mother a devout Catholic.1 But Benito followed more in the footsteps of his father and when he did accompany his mother to church, he was a malcontent, often getting himself into trouble. He did attend Catholic boarding school from which he was expelled.2

Before becoming the leader of Italy, he was outwardly critical of Catholicism and a vocal atheist,3 challenging riveted crowds to prove him wrong by asking their God to strike him down and saying things like:
"The history of saints is mainly the history of insane people."4

However, once Mussolini took power, he realized that the Catholic Church was not only a force to be reckoned with in his own country, it had influence and reach all over the world. Thus, he decided to work with the Vatican rather than oppose it.

So there you have it, an atheist with a Catholic mask.


Josef Stalin

Raised in the Georgian Orthodox faith, Stalin became an atheist. His government promoted atheism through special atheistic education in schools, anti-religious propaganda, the anti-religious work of public institutions (Society of the Godless), discriminatory laws, and a terror campaign against religious believers. By the late 1930s, it had become dangerous to be publicly associated with religion.[100]

Stalin once said:
"You know, they are fooling us, there is no God! all this talk about God is sheer nonsense."5

During the Second World War, Stalin reopened the churches. One reason could have been to motivate the majority of the population who had Christian beliefs. The reasoning behind this is that by changing the official policy of the party and the state towards religion, the Church and its clergymen could be at his disposal in mobilizing the war effort.


etc etc etc...

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Mon 07/20/15 10:51 AM


16 �These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.



I think Milesoftheusa actually found the quote I was thinking about.

While it does include some of the Seven Deadly Sins, as they're commonly held... I admit, it doesn't include all. what

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