Leviticus 19:18
"'Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against anyone among your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the LORD.

Deuteronomy 32:35
It is mine to avenge; I will repay. In due time their foot will slip; their day of disaster is near and their doom rushes upon them."

1 Samuel 26:10
As surely as the LORD lives," he said, "the LORD himself will strike him, or his time will come and he will die, or he will go into battle and perish.

1 Samuel 26:11
But the LORD forbid that I should lay a hand on the LORD's anointed. Now get the spear and water jug that are near his head, and let's go."

Psalm 94:1
The LORD is a God who avenges. O God who avenges, shine forth.

Proverbs 20:22
Do not say, "I'll pay you back for this wrong!" Wait for the LORD, and he will avenge you.

Proverbs 24:29
Do not say, "I'll do to them as they have done to me; I'll pay them back for what they did."

Jeremiah 51:36
Therefore this is what the LORD says: "See, I will defend your cause and avenge you; I will dry up her sea and make her springs dry.

Romans 12:17
Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone.

Romans 12:19
Friends, do not avenge yourselves; instead, leave room for His wrath. For it is written: Vengeance belongs to Me; I will repay, says the Lord.

Ephesians 4:27
and do not give the devil a foothold.

1 Thessalonians 4:6
and that in this matter no one should wrong or take advantage of a brother or sister. The Lord will punish all those who commit such sins, as we told you and warned you before.

2 Timothy 4:14
Alexander the metalworker did me a great deal of harm. The Lord will repay him for what he has done.

Hebrews 10:30
For we know him who said, "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," and again, "The Lord will judge his people."

I strongly believed in Karma!

Ok Panstilly, who has got you remembering vengeance is God's?
Breathe....

Is not karma very similiar to Galatians 6:7?
Do not be deceived,God will not be mocked. For whatever a man sows, he shall also reap.

karma may be a b****, but God's justice is sheer poetry...

we have a saying...when God finally metes out his justice, you will no longer find satisfaction in your enemy's suffering...what is left is pity/compassion...but there is nothing you can do to change their situation even if you wanted to.

karma doesn't seem to come close to the breadth and depth of this...

I can't figure out your question or point. Isn't revenge and Karma two different things?

Yes they seem to be. But for people who do not believe in God, the point is moot.

It's probably better to have the topic title as :
God's justice vs the universal concept of karma


Your question did lead me to this question:
if you would take it upon yourself to take revenge on someone whom you feel have wronged you, wouldn't karma catch up with you anyways?

Of course!

The law of cause and effect forms an integral part of Hindu philosophy. This law is termed as 'karma', which means to 'act'. The Concise Oxford Dictionary of Current English defines it as the "sum of person's actions in one of his successive states of existence, viewed as deciding his fate for the next".

In Sanskrit karma means "volitional action that is undertaken deliberately or knowingly". This also dovetails self-determination and a strong will power to abstain from inactivity. Karma is the differentia that characterizes human beings and distinguishes him from other creatures of the world.

I don't know. Would that be like your conscience bothering you causing discomfort of some kind?

Of course not ! Thats a whole 'nuther concept
For karma to take effect or God to act, you would have already acted based on your conscience, whether it was guilty or innocent.

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Karma (Sanskrit: कर्म; IPA: [ˈkərmə] ( listen); Pali: kamma) means action, work or deed;[1] it also refers to the spiritual principle of cause and effect where intent and actions of an individual (cause) influence the future of that individual (effect).[2] Good intent and good deed contribute to good karma and future happiness, while bad intent and bad deed contribute to bad karma and future suffering.[3][4] Karma is closely associated with the idea of rebirth in some schools of Asian religions.[5] In these schools, karma in the present affects one's future in the current life, as well as the nature and quality of future lives - or, one's saṃsāra.[6]

With origins in ancient India, it is a key concept in Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism,[7] and Taoism



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So, Karma is cause and effect with moral implications.

Where-as, Revenge is a deliberate effort to enforce moral repercussions.

I really like this.


Another proverb states: "Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves." This is a translation of Confucius teaching - and he meant something quite different from what it seems in the English translation. The original version begins with "复仇不子也." It literally means a gentleman who does not take revenge is not a gentleman. He then added, "寝苫枕干不仕弗与共天下也遇诸市朝不反兵而斗." It means a gentleman may not take his revenge right away due to the circumstances but he will remember it every day before falling into sleep. He then shall take the revenge when the timing is right, even if he must take the whole world with him (to end his own life). In other words, Confucius was not encouraging people to let go of the hatred, rather he reminds people the importance of revenge as it is part of the significance of one's dignity, and he was encouraging people to "dig two graves" because he believes that dignity is more important than one's life.

Confucius~

Revenge: Will You Feel Better?

Revenge can be a strong urge, but you may not feel better if you act on it.


Understanding how emotions and thoughts influence behavior is important for people who have intense emotions and are often ruled by them. Knowledge about emotions and the thoughts that strengthen or soften those emotions can help people develop ways to better manage their actions.

One urge that people experience but rarely discuss is revenge. Webster's online dictionary defines revenge as to avenge (as oneself) usually by retaliating in kind or degree or to inflict injury in return for something, such as to revenge an insult.

The struggle with revenge is centuries old. Shakespeare said, "If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us shall we not revenge?" Shakespeare clearly thought revenge was as normal and predictable as the sun rising.

Maybe, but what about the idea that revenge is self-destructive? Confucius said , "Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves." Gandhi seemed to agree with him when he said, "An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind."

I read the article from where this was taken from.

To say that you should dig two graves when you embark on a journey of revenge means that even yourself may be consumed by the very revenge that you seek, causing not only the demise of the person whom you seek revenge from but also the demise of yourself.

To say that a gentleman is not a gentleman if he does not seek revenge for himself can be taken out of context. The second line states the right timing and even at the cost of his own life. - this is not to say that revenge is justified in itself. It means that to take action in order to stand up for the principles you believe in, even at great personal risk. It does not necessarily talk about revenge but about personal integrity and not letting others step all over it.

Taking revenge on a perceived offence is different from standing up for what you believe in. Standing up for what you believe in is best done in the right timing and circumstance, even at the cost of your own life, if only to prove one's integrity. Revenge on the other hand, may not only be detrimental to the object of revenge, but also to the person taking it, as it does not speak of any greater purpose or principle other than self-satisfaction at all costs.

" How people treat you is there Karma. How you react is yours " By taking revenge you create your own Karma

Mt 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and at harvest time I will tell the reapers, Gather the weeds first and bind them in bundles to be burned, but gather the wheat into my barn.’”

What about the concept of inherited karma ?

Romans 12:17
Do not repay anyone evil for evil.
Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone.

This is a difficult scripture to accomplish. It is similar to
1 Thessalonians 5:22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.

Although your conduct and the motivations of your heart can be good, (not seeking revenge),people may perceive their reality is true, not yours.

In a culture/religion/or the beliefs of religious extremists where revenge is seen as a good thing... you as a patient, forgiving person may be despised by others for THEIR idea of what is wrong or right.

To do what is right in the eyes of everyone....is a hard thing to accomplish.

I don't believe in "inherited Karma" I believe we create out own Karma. If you surround yourself with toxic people your life will be toxic.