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Obama Readies Biggest Reach of Presidential Power Yet

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Sun 11/15/15 03:05 PM
Suffice it to say, I disagree even MORE than 100% with this Michael Goodwin.

In addition to his recital of the "facts" being almost entirely built on a foundation of personal bias, his starting point that a President should RESIGN when circumstances cause a difference of perceptions.

In this particular arena, Obama took over from a President who had run the entire military into the ground, using up not only the primary military resources on unnecessary invasions, but even used up the National Guard, all to avoid stepping up to the plate and expand the forces in order to conduct the wars he wanted to fight. On top of that, he drove the nations economy into a deeper ditch than it's been in since 1930, and all but eliminated any international sympathy that we gained from having been attacked at the beginning of his first term.

This meant that even if Obama had NOT been elected with a mandate to avoid further warfare, he would not have the resources available to carry it off.

And of course, once the Republicans gained control of Congress and blocked all funding for Obama to take actions of any kind (in the name of preserving those upper crust tax cuts of theirs), the ability of Obama to do the sort of things that the GOP proceeded to call for (such as putting troops into Syria and starting yet ANOTHER war) was moot.

How about this Michael Goodwin resign, on the grounds that he clearly has nothing but self-righteous posturing and propaganda to offer.

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Sun 11/15/15 03:55 PM
Edited by SassyEuro2 on Sun 11/15/15 03:56 PM

Suffice it to say, I disagree even MORE than 100% with this Michael Goodwin.

In addition to his recital of the "facts" being almost entirely built on a foundation of personal bias, his starting point that a President should RESIGN when circumstances cause a difference of perceptions.

In this particular arena, Obama took over from a President who had run the entire military into the ground, using up not only the primary military resources on unnecessary invasions, but even used up the National Guard, all to avoid stepping up to the plate and expand the forces in order to conduct the wars he wanted to fight. On top of that, he drove the nations economy into a deeper ditch than it's been in since 1930, and all but eliminated any international sympathy that we gained from having been attacked at the beginning of his first term.

This meant that even if Obama had NOT been elected with a mandate to avoid further warfare, he would not have the resources available to carry it off.

And of course, once the Republicans gained control of Congress and blocked all funding for Obama to take actions of any kind (in the name of preserving those upper crust tax cuts of theirs), the ability of Obama to do the sort of things that the GOP proceeded to call for (such as putting troops into Syria and starting yet ANOTHER war) was moot.

How about this Michael Goodwin resign, on the grounds that he clearly has nothing but self-righteous posturing and propaganda to offer.


Blah blah blah..It's Bush's fault


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Sun 11/15/15 06:59 PM
Edited by chronicliar75 on Sun 11/15/15 07:00 PM

Suffice it to say, I disagree even MORE than 100% with this Michael Goodwin.

In addition to his recital of the "facts" being almost entirely built on a foundation of personal bias, his starting point that a President should RESIGN when circumstances cause a difference of perceptions.

In this particular arena, Obama took over from a President who had run the entire military into the ground, using up not only the primary military resources on unnecessary invasions, but even used up the National Guard, all to avoid stepping up to the plate and expand the forces in order to conduct the wars he wanted to fight. On top of that, he drove the nations economy into a deeper ditch than it's been in since 1930, and all but eliminated any international sympathy that we gained from having been attacked at the beginning of his first term.

This meant that even if Obama had NOT been elected with a mandate to avoid further warfare, he would not have the resources available to carry it off.

And of course, once the Republicans gained control of Congress and blocked all funding for Obama to take actions of any kind (in the name of preserving those upper crust tax cuts of theirs), the ability of Obama to do the sort of things that the GOP proceeded to call for (such as putting troops into Syria and starting yet ANOTHER war) was moot.

How about this Michael Goodwin resign, on the grounds that he clearly has nothing but self-righteous posturing and propaganda to offer.


With all due respect Sir,
while I can say that this is an
incisive rebuttal & answers
some of the controversial
& hard-nosed questions of
the Obama Administration-

one cannot help but wonder why-
it has the same tinged
as political legitimacy equating
to moral authority?

Did I just hear an echo of sentiments
with exact ring in the Bush Administration?
I am talking about your nation's
underlying moral precepts-

This is a serious enough issue to warrant a
strong hand for a political leader-
we are talking about lives.
We are not talking about political
maneuverings & strategic foreign policy-
the other side are killing people Sir.

Whether they praise God or not,
Whether they do it for religion or politics
the fact is, they are killing innocent people.

This should be at least be addressed, even at
the cost of questions in political legitimacy
to foreign policies?




If Obama cannot rise to the challenge of leadership in this historic crisis, then, for the good of humanity, he should resign.
As a top intelligence adviser told me yesterday, “What they did in Paris means they are coming here.”

In fact, they already are here. Law-enforcement officials say the FBI has as many as 1,000 investigations open into Islamic State sympathizers inside the US.

Is America ready to stop multiple assault teams of suicide bombers? Is New York ready? Or Chicago, Los Angeles or Washington, DC?



^^^Why this then?

Just wondering Sir.
Why it is more on ideology?
when innocent lives are stake.

by ideology I mean this-
"hierarchically oriented stand-patters as "Rightists" and the egalitarian, we-can-do-better, let's-change-things people as "Leftists?"

The very essence of having a government
is to protect the citizens by
upholding the law & the constitution.
Or does this also evolves with the time?

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Sun 11/15/15 07:31 PM
I meant...
Obonzo sextupled the national debt.

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Sun 11/15/15 07:32 PM
If Obama cannot rise to the challenge of leadership in this historic crisis, then, for the good of humanity, he should resign. Those are the only options and it is his duty to decide.

This seems kinda stupid.

The government has been kicking so many cans down the road for so long, for so many decades, we're nearly 20 trillion dollars in debt and hundreds of trillions in unfunded liability debt.

And someone thinks a reality induced ultimatum is going to get a president to do anything within the less than 1 year they really have left in office?

President Obama has spent the last seven years trying to avoid the world as it is.

President Obama has spent the last seven years pretty much continuing the same stuff he was doing as a senator.
He was just president senator obama.

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Sun 11/15/15 07:49 PM


Rubbish.
A great man is doing a great job.
How about we just cut off all the pointing fingers.


define great... he's done nothing to warrant that verb...

oops adverb:angel:

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Sun 11/15/15 08:04 PM



Rubbish.
A great man is doing a great job.
How about we just cut off all the pointing fingers.


define great... he's done nothing to warrant that verb...

oops adverb:angel:

i was half right...drinker

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Sun 11/15/15 08:25 PM
Edited by chronicliar75 on Sun 11/15/15 08:35 PM

The government has been kicking so many cans down the road for so long, for so many decades, we're nearly 20 trillion dollars in debt and hundreds of trillions in unfunded liability debt.

And someone thinks a reality induced ultimatum is going to get a president to do anything within the less than 1 year they really have left in office?



Nah.
if we, "just bystanders & spectators"
of american politics grasp the fact that
a 1 administration cannot resolve nor
eliminate the issue of

"nearly 20 trillion dollars in debt and hundreds of trillions in unfunded liability debt"

how much more the american citizens?
Feel good policies in the face of legislative apathy eh?

Maybe I am just dense, but I believe your president
was not ask to resign because of
something that was just carried over to his administration.

"He just took over.." and made the best/worst he could on what
is handed over.

Reality induced wise is too strong for me in this,
Definitive test to moral issues maybe.
He is the POTUS.
His actions & decisions reflects Democracy & your country.


President Obama has spent the last seven years pretty much continuing the same stuff he was doing as a senator.
He was just president senator obama.


Advocating a bipartisan view
if I may say:

What the world Sir need is a
POTUS that will act, decides that
reflects:

Strength. Courage & Conscientiousness


Not a senator, that reflects:

"hierarchies that orchestrate its way of life and its worldview and indeed in everything

that gives cultural identity, direction and meaning to people's everyday lives"


Just Saying.

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Mon 11/16/15 12:55 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Mon 11/16/15 01:14 AM

Suffice it to say, I disagree even MORE than 100% with this Michael Goodwin.

In addition to his recital of the "facts" being almost entirely built on a foundation of personal bias, his starting point that a President should RESIGN when circumstances cause a difference of perceptions.

In this particular arena, Obama took over from a President who had run the entire military into the ground, using up not only the primary military resources on unnecessary invasions, but even used up the National Guard, all to avoid stepping up to the plate and expand the forces in order to conduct the wars he wanted to fight. On top of that, he drove the nations economy into a deeper ditch than it's been in since 1930, and all but eliminated any international sympathy that we gained from having been attacked at the beginning of his first term.

This meant that even if Obama had NOT been elected with a mandate to avoid further warfare, he would not have the resources available to carry it off.

And of course, once the Republicans gained control of Congress and blocked all funding for Obama to take actions of any kind (in the name of preserving those upper crust tax cuts of theirs), the ability of Obama to do the sort of things that the GOP proceeded to call for (such as putting troops into Syria and starting yet ANOTHER war) was moot.

How about this Michael Goodwin resign, on the grounds that he clearly has nothing but self-righteous posturing and propaganda to offer.
rofl rofl rofl

http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines-2015/check-out-the-tweet-obama-deleted-about-importing-100000-syrians

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Mon 11/16/15 02:06 AM

It’s time for Obama to make a choice: Lead us or resign

By Michael Goodwin November 14, 2015 | 10:01pm

In any time and place, war is fiendishly simple. It is the ultimate zero-sum contest — you win or you lose.

That eternal truth is so obvious that it should not need to be said. Yet even after the horrific slaughter in Paris, there remains a distressing doubt about whether America’s commander in chief gets it.

President Obama has spent the last seven years trying to avoid the world as it is. He has put his intellect and rhetorical skills into the dishonorable service of assigning blame and fudging failure. If nuances were bombs, Islamic State would have been destroyed years ago.

He refuses to say “Islamic terrorism,” as if that would offend the peaceful Muslims who make up the vast bulk of victims. He rejects the word “war,” even as jihadists carry out bloodthirsty attacks against Americans and innocent peoples around the world.

He shuns the mantle of global leadership that comes with the Oval Office, with an aide advancing the preposterous concept that Obama is “leading from behind.” He snubs important partners like Egypt, showers concessions on the apocalyptic mullahs of Iran, and called the Islamic State the “jayvee team” even as it was beginning to create a caliphate.

Having long ago identified American power as a problem, he continues to slash the military as the enemy expands its reach. In a globalized era, the Obama doctrine smacks of cowardly retreat and fanciful isolation.

In an accident of timing that captures his cluelessness, the president actually declared on Friday morning that Islamic State had been “contained,” practically boasting in a TV interview that, “They have not gained ground in Iraq and in Syria.”

What gall. What folly.

Paris is the final straw. Obama’s exemption from reality has expired. He must either commit to leading the free world to victory, or step aside so someone else can.

There is no more time to avoid the truth of war. America must organize the combined forces of the civilized world before Islamic State makes good on its vow to “taste” more American blood.

If Obama cannot rise to the challenge of leadership in this historic crisis, then, for the good of humanity, he should resign.
As a top intelligence adviser told me yesterday, “What they did in Paris means they are coming here.”

In fact, they already are here. Law-enforcement officials say the FBI has as many as 1,000 investigations open into Islamic State sympathizers inside the US.

Is America ready to stop multiple assault teams of suicide bombers? Is New York ready? Or Chicago, Los Angeles or Washington, DC?

Because Paris was a grand success to the terrorists, the propaganda value acts as an incentive for attacks on other western cities. While sparing no effort to stop them here, we must simultaneously destroy them in their foreign bases.

World War III began when Osama bin Laden declared war on the United States, though we did not grasp the significance until 9/11. The collapse of the Twin Towers, a smoking hole in the Pentagon and a downed jetliner in Pennsylvania revealed the price of our inaction.

The single greatest attack ever against America galvanized the nation and defined a new generation of policy makers and warriors.

Yet Obama always remained curiously cool about the whole endeavor, denouncing the invasion of Iraq as dumb while holding up Afghanistan as a necessary war. Once he got to the White House, though, he showed no conviction about Afghanistan either, surging troops only to demand that they return home quickly.

The pattern has never changed, and his relationship with a rotating cast of military leaders remains rocky. Robert Gates, secretary of defense under both President Bush and Obama, said in his memoir that Obama’s distrust of the military was destructive of the very mission he had given the troops.


People in France light candles at a memorial for the victims of the Paris terror attacks.Photo: AP
After a heated 2011 meeting on Afghanistan, Gates concluded that Obama “doesn’t believe in his own strategy, and doesn’t consider the war to be his. For him, it’s all about getting out.”

Another former military leader, Gen. Jack Keane, notes that Obama never once agreed to the full request of his commanders. If they ask for 10,000 troops, Obama agrees to 5,000, 3,000 or none.

The raid that got bin Laden marked the high point of Obama’s commitment. He turned that achievement into political gold in 2012 and declared the “tide of war is receding” to justify his decision to withdraw from the field of battle.

It was a convenient figment of self-interest, as if his wish would make it true. Instead, the strategic dominos fell quickly as war metastasized. The hard-won gains in Iraq were reversed, Syria descended into hell and Islamic State was born in the vacuum.

Part 2

Its ruthlessness and success in capturing territory enabled it to supplant al Qaeda as the most dangerous terrorist network. It has become the proverbial “strong horse,” with each terrifying attack bringing more recruits and more financing.

In the last two weeks, it shot down a commercial Russian airliner over Egypt and carried out bombings in Beirut. And then came Paris.

Its ability to inflict unprecedented casualties in such far-flung locations mark a growing strength and sophistication. The terrorists smell weakness and have increased the pace of their aggressive expansion. Their aim of global conquest must be taken seriously.

French President Francois Hollande understands the meaning of Friday’s slaughter. He called it an “act of war” and vowed that “France will not show any pity” against those who carried out the barbaric acts. World leaders quickly expressed their condolences and condemnation.

Yet it remains doubtful if our side is truly committed to winning. The determination and unity the free world showed after 9/11 faded as casualties, mistakes and politics eroded the mission.

So we are back to square one again, facing a stronger and more emboldened enemy. The time has run out for half measures and kicking the can down the road. The enemy must be destroyed on the battlefield before there can be any hope of peace.

If Obama cannot rise to the challenge of leadership in this historic crisis, then, for the good of humanity, he should resign. Those are the only options and it is his duty to decide.

http://nypost.com/2015/11/14/its-time-for-obama-to-make-a-choice-lead-us-or-resign/

-------------------------------------------------
19 minutes ago

Obama Says Twisted Ideology Behind Attack on Civilized World - ABC News http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/world-leaders-aim-stepped-response-islamic-state-35214525 /

13 Hours Ago

The Latest: Fiorina links Obama, Clinton to Paris attacks - Yahoo News http://news.yahoo.com/latest-fiorina-links-obama-clinton-paris-attacks-213557725--election.html/


14 Hours Ago

Cruz: Obama ‘does not wish to defend this country’ - The Washington Post http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11/14/cruz-obama-does-not-wish-to-defend-this-country/




A narcissist and sociopath like Obama would NEVER resign.

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Mon 11/16/15 02:08 AM

It’s time for Obama to make a choice: Lead us or resign

By Michael Goodwin November 14, 2015 | 10:01pm

In any time and place, war is fiendishly simple. It is the ultimate zero-sum contest — you win or you lose.

That eternal truth is so obvious that it should not need to be said. Yet even after the horrific slaughter in Paris, there remains a distressing doubt about whether America’s commander in chief gets it.

President Obama has spent the last seven years trying to avoid the world as it is. He has put his intellect and rhetorical skills into the dishonorable service of assigning blame and fudging failure. If nuances were bombs, Islamic State would have been destroyed years ago.

He refuses to say “Islamic terrorism,” as if that would offend the peaceful Muslims who make up the vast bulk of victims. He rejects the word “war,” even as jihadists carry out bloodthirsty attacks against Americans and innocent peoples around the world.

He shuns the mantle of global leadership that comes with the Oval Office, with an aide advancing the preposterous concept that Obama is “leading from behind.” He snubs important partners like Egypt, showers concessions on the apocalyptic mullahs of Iran, and called the Islamic State the “jayvee team” even as it was beginning to create a caliphate.

Having long ago identified American power as a problem, he continues to slash the military as the enemy expands its reach. In a globalized era, the Obama doctrine smacks of cowardly retreat and fanciful isolation.

In an accident of timing that captures his cluelessness, the president actually declared on Friday morning that Islamic State had been “contained,” practically boasting in a TV interview that, “They have not gained ground in Iraq and in Syria.”

What gall. What folly.

Paris is the final straw. Obama’s exemption from reality has expired. He must either commit to leading the free world to victory, or step aside so someone else can.

There is no more time to avoid the truth of war. America must organize the combined forces of the civilized world before Islamic State makes good on its vow to “taste” more American blood.

If Obama cannot rise to the challenge of leadership in this historic crisis, then, for the good of humanity, he should resign.
As a top intelligence adviser told me yesterday, “What they did in Paris means they are coming here.”

In fact, they already are here. Law-enforcement officials say the FBI has as many as 1,000 investigations open into Islamic State sympathizers inside the US.

Is America ready to stop multiple assault teams of suicide bombers? Is New York ready? Or Chicago, Los Angeles or Washington, DC?

Because Paris was a grand success to the terrorists, the propaganda value acts as an incentive for attacks on other western cities. While sparing no effort to stop them here, we must simultaneously destroy them in their foreign bases.

World War III began when Osama bin Laden declared war on the United States, though we did not grasp the significance until 9/11. The collapse of the Twin Towers, a smoking hole in the Pentagon and a downed jetliner in Pennsylvania revealed the price of our inaction.

The single greatest attack ever against America galvanized the nation and defined a new generation of policy makers and warriors.

Yet Obama always remained curiously cool about the whole endeavor, denouncing the invasion of Iraq as dumb while holding up Afghanistan as a necessary war. Once he got to the White House, though, he showed no conviction about Afghanistan either, surging troops only to demand that they return home quickly.

The pattern has never changed, and his relationship with a rotating cast of military leaders remains rocky. Robert Gates, secretary of defense under both President Bush and Obama, said in his memoir that Obama’s distrust of the military was destructive of the very mission he had given the troops.


People in France light candles at a memorial for the victims of the Paris terror attacks.Photo: AP
After a heated 2011 meeting on Afghanistan, Gates concluded that Obama “doesn’t believe in his own strategy, and doesn’t consider the war to be his. For him, it’s all about getting out.”

Another former military leader, Gen. Jack Keane, notes that Obama never once agreed to the full request of his commanders. If they ask for 10,000 troops, Obama agrees to 5,000, 3,000 or none.

The raid that got bin Laden marked the high point of Obama’s commitment. He turned that achievement into political gold in 2012 and declared the “tide of war is receding” to justify his decision to withdraw from the field of battle.

It was a convenient figment of self-interest, as if his wish would make it true. Instead, the strategic dominos fell quickly as war metastasized. The hard-won gains in Iraq were reversed, Syria descended into hell and Islamic State was born in the vacuum.

Part 2

Its ruthlessness and success in capturing territory enabled it to supplant al Qaeda as the most dangerous terrorist network. It has become the proverbial “strong horse,” with each terrifying attack bringing more recruits and more financing.

In the last two weeks, it shot down a commercial Russian airliner over Egypt and carried out bombings in Beirut. And then came Paris.

Its ability to inflict unprecedented casualties in such far-flung locations mark a growing strength and sophistication. The terrorists smell weakness and have increased the pace of their aggressive expansion. Their aim of global conquest must be taken seriously.

French President Francois Hollande understands the meaning of Friday’s slaughter. He called it an “act of war” and vowed that “France will not show any pity” against those who carried out the barbaric acts. World leaders quickly expressed their condolences and condemnation.

Yet it remains doubtful if our side is truly committed to winning. The determination and unity the free world showed after 9/11 faded as casualties, mistakes and politics eroded the mission.

So we are back to square one again, facing a stronger and more emboldened enemy. The time has run out for half measures and kicking the can down the road. The enemy must be destroyed on the battlefield before there can be any hope of peace.

If Obama cannot rise to the challenge of leadership in this historic crisis, then, for the good of humanity, he should resign. Those are the only options and it is his duty to decide.

http://nypost.com/2015/11/14/its-time-for-obama-to-make-a-choice-lead-us-or-resign/

-------------------------------------------------
19 minutes ago

Obama Says Twisted Ideology Behind Attack on Civilized World - ABC News http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/world-leaders-aim-stepped-response-islamic-state-35214525 /

13 Hours Ago

The Latest: Fiorina links Obama, Clinton to Paris attacks - Yahoo News http://news.yahoo.com/latest-fiorina-links-obama-clinton-paris-attacks-213557725--election.html/


14 Hours Ago

Cruz: Obama ‘does not wish to defend this country’ - The Washington Post http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11/14/cruz-obama-does-not-wish-to-defend-this-country/




Stalin got paranoid just like Obama and famously got rid of his top generals and secret police officials and it drastically weakened the Soviet Union. Obama is doing the same thing here, go figure.

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Tue 11/17/15 04:46 AM
Edited by IgorFrankensteen on Tue 11/17/15 04:47 AM
Let me make my attitude about this Michael Goodwin fool more clear.

I did NOT say that "Bush was responsible for everything." Nor did I in any way even imply, that Obama did everything right, or that I personally approve of even HALF of what he did and didn't do.

I tried to explain that Bush screwed a great deal up, and that this severely limited the actions that ANY President who followed him could choose.

A basic translation of what Michael Goodwin actually said is:

"Because I DISAGREE with the way Obama is trying to lead the country, I am going to lie, and say he isn't leading at all, and call for his resignation."

That's a stupid thing for anyone to say, for any reason, no matter who's side they are on.

By all means, argue for what you think we SHOULD be doing instead of what we ARE doing. But proclaiming that an elected person should resign, just because you personally disagree with them, is anti-American in the extreme.

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Tue 11/17/15 05:03 AM


Rubbish.
A great man is doing a great job.
How about we just cut off all the pointing fingers.
129 dead and 352 injured in Paris disagree....


It didn't help him that he was on TV the day before saying ISIS was contained and a year ago he called them the JV team. rofl He couldn't find his way out of a paper bag!

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Tue 11/17/15 05:15 AM
If the US gets hit in a "Paris Style" ISIS attack within the next year, Obama's legacy will be sorely stained.

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Tue 11/17/15 05:25 AM
Edited by SassyEuro2 on Tue 11/17/15 05:26 AM
The US gets hit in a "Paris Style" ISIS attack within the next year, Obama's legacy will be sorely stained.

ISIS sent a letter in March or May of this year saying which states are primary targets. Is that what he is waiting for :angry:



*Well... It was nice being here with you all. I had some laughs.:angel: *


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Tue 11/17/15 07:29 AM
http://www.redstate.com/2015/11/16/obama_press_conference-antalya/

How Disastrous Was Obama’s Press Conference In Antalya, Turkey?

By: streiff (Diary) | November 16th, 2015 at 01:00 PM

Worse than you can possibly believe.

The truth is evident. Barack Obama is a tiny, timorous man who is intellectually unable to comprehend the challenge facing the United States and Europe from ISIS and even if he could recognize the challenge he is morally incapable responding.

While at the G20 meeting in Antalya, where he will kiss the ring of Vladimir Putin along with any other anatomical region Putin thinks could use the application of Obama’s lips, a visibly short-tempered Obama experienced perhaps the first real press conference of his sad and pathetic presidency. (See Twitchy for how Obama’s butt is being roasted in front of the world.)

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Tue 11/17/15 08:05 AM
Edited by mightymoe on Tue 11/17/15 08:06 AM

Let me make my attitude about this Michael Goodwin fool more clear.

I did NOT say that "Bush was responsible for everything." Nor did I in any way even imply, that Obama did everything right, or that I personally approve of even HALF of what he did and didn't do.

I tried to explain that Bush screwed a great deal up, and that this severely limited the actions that ANY President who followed him could choose.

A basic translation of what Michael Goodwin actually said is:

"Because I DISAGREE with the way Obama is trying to lead the country, I am going to lie, and say he isn't leading at all, and call for his resignation."

That's a stupid thing for anyone to say, for any reason, no matter who's side they are on.

By all means, argue for what you think we SHOULD be doing instead of what we ARE doing. But proclaiming that an elected person should resign, just because you personally disagree with them, is anti-American in the extreme.


so it's anti-American to have an opinion?
it's anti-American to think that our president is doing a bad job?
so in that same sense, you're anti-American for bad mouthing bush...

one of the biggest problems is people like you mouthing off at others because they have an opinion that differs from yours...

what exactly did MG lie about? i'sure it's nothing on the scale on everything obarry has been lying about for the last 7 years..

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Tue 11/17/15 08:19 AM
Edited by mikeybgood1 on Tue 11/17/15 08:20 AM
Well listening to Obama speak at the G-20 summit on ISIS, I think it's time to drag out and dust off the 25th Amendment. I'm serious.

It is my belief that Obama is currently suffering from clinical depression, and is incapable of the critical decision making that is a requirement of his job.

His comment regarding 'boots on the ground' against ISIS is telling. To paraphrase, he said that since the locals don't want U.S. troops there, and that since future attacks could be launched from other countries like Yemen, it makes no sense to use American troops to fight ISIS.

As I've said previously, this EXACT logic if applied in a historical context means that had he been president in 1939, he would not have gone to war against Hitler!

I doubt Germans wanted American troops there. While fighting Japan, who the U.S. declared war on FIRST, the Germans a couple days later then declared war on the U.S.

So, using Obama's logic, because you are fighting one group(Japan/ISIS), and another group also wants to attack you (Germany/Yemen), you just don't fight the first group with all available resources to defeat them.

Stunning.

In addition, he also spoke of how he has to go to VA hospitals every couple months and see the result of war. I think he is simply a war weary president who has had everything pile up on his psyche and doesn't want to do it anymore.

I think this has clinically impacted his thinking, and I believe he is incapable of making the decisions required to protect Americans and their allies. His refusal to use the forces at his disposal in a prudent and overwhelming fashion in order to end the conflict speaks to his denial of the reality of the military situation.

ISIS poses a clear and present danger to Americans abroad and at home. Denial of the extent and gravity of that danger borders on negligence.