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Topic: Sheriff Arpaio Calls For Citizens To Arm Themselves
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Thu 12/03/15 09:59 PM
Arpaio calls on 250K armed citizens to stop terrorism and mass s - CBS 5 - KPHO

http://www.kpho.com/story/30644963/arpaio-calls-on-250k-armed-citizens-to-stop-terrorism-and-mass-shootings / * short video & there are 8+ articles on this*

Arpaio calls on 250K armed citizens to stop terrorism and mass shootingsshootings

Posted: Dec 01, 2015 10:02 PM EST
Updated: Dec 02, 2015 5:46 PM EST

Draw your weapons. 

That's what Sheriff Joe Arpaio is urging nearly a quarter-million Arizona gun owners to do to fight terrorism and mass shootings.

(Source: KPHO/KTVK)
On Tuesday, the so-called "Toughest Sheriff in America" said he cannot guarantee the public's safety and called on them to take matters into their own hands if necessary.  

"I'm just talking about the areas where you have large crowds and someone pulls out the gun and starts shooting. Maybe somebody with a concealed weapon takes the guy down," Arpaio said. 

Specifically, Arpaio was looking to the 250,000 Arizonans who carry concealed weapons permits to help keep the peace. 

But there are some in law enforcement who are calling this a bad idea. 

Steve Henry, chief deputy of the Pinal County Sheriff's Office, said untrained gun owners could add to chaotic situations at big events, increasing the risk to innocent bystanders. 

"Sometimes it's not proper to pull the trigger because the collateral damage is not worth it," Henry said. "We don't want to walk into a gun fight between anybody, much less a gun fight where people are untrained."

Arpaio's comments came in the wake of terrorist attacks in Paris, Beirut and Mali. 

As such, the percentage of Americans who think a terrorist strike is somewhat or very likely to occur in the homeland in the next few months has skyrocketed. 

According to a CBS poll, 69 percent of Americans believe an attack is imminent. 

Arpaio referred to the terrorist group ISIS, or ISIL, as a reason gun owners should be on the lookout. He also spoke about the Colorado man accused of killing three people at the Planned Parenthood last week. 

Had someone been armed, the sheriff said, maybe he or she could have stopped the shooter. 

"I'm concerned about what's going on. Just think about Colorado. If there was someone in there with a concealed weapon that guy would have been shot down," he said. 

Arpaio is not the first politician to call for more guns after a tragedy. 

Three years ago, Texas Rep. Louie Gohmert proposed arming more citizens after the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in Connecticut where 20 school children and six adult staff members were killed. 

At the time, Gohmert said: "I wish to God she had had an M-4 in her office," referring to the school’s principal. 

There have been some cases where an armed civilian stopped a mass killer. 

In 1997, an assistant principal in Pearl, MS, fatally shot an armed student after he had killed two other students and injured several others. 

Still, it appears to be a rare occurrence. Regardless, Arpiao believes armed citizens is one way to keep the public safe. 

"All I'm saying is if it's controversial, then OK, let it be controversial, but we have to protect the public," he said.


SHERIFF ARPAIO CALLS ON ARMED CITIZENS TO HELP STOP TERRORISM/MASS SHOOTINGS
http://youtu.be/ihz2VNxxIhs/

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Thu 12/03/15 11:18 PM
arent armed citizens the source of the mass shootings?

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Thu 12/03/15 11:26 PM
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Fri 12/04/15 12:28 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Fri 12/04/15 12:47 AM

arent armed citizens the source of the mass shootings?

you're not even funny!


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Fri 12/04/15 01:16 AM
Edited by nailcap on Fri 12/04/15 01:16 AM


the number is? god bless usa.

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Fri 12/04/15 03:11 AM
I agree with one of the comments posted to one of the articles.

" I am not a fan of Sheriff Joe, but he has some valid points ". :thumbsup:

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Fri 12/04/15 05:43 AM


arent armed citizens the source of the mass shootings?

you're not even funny!




soooo,, how many mass shootings have happened WITHOUT an armed citizen?

lol

point is not that citizens with arms are all violence, point is that having more guns floating around isnt a solution to DECREASING gun violence,,,,

its like saying,, well, if more people had cars,, less car accidents,,

not an enditement against drivers at all,,, just kind of,,, using logic,,,

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Fri 12/04/15 06:03 AM



arent armed citizens the source of the mass shootings?

you're not even funny!




soooo,, how many mass shootings have happened WITHOUT an armed citizen?

lol

point is not that citizens with arms are all violence, point is that having more guns floating around isnt a solution to DECREASING gun violence,,,,

its like saying,, well, if more people had cars,, less car accidents,,

not an enditement against drivers at all,,, just kind of,,, using logic,,,
rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl
You're getting funnier by the day!

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Fri 12/04/15 07:55 AM
Specifically, Arpaio was looking to the 250,000 Arizonans who carry concealed weapons permits to help keep the peace. But there are some in law enforcement who are calling this a bad idea.

In some ways this wasn't that bad of thing to do.

I mean in AZ you don't need a concealed weapons permit to carry concealed, anymore.

So Arpaio was calling on the people that actually went through with getting a permit. Taking the class, qualifying for renewal, shooting practice.

I mean Arpaio "could" have simply asked everybody to arm themselves.
And legally, they could. Open carry, concealed carry, all legal.

But he specifically chose to address his comment to those with concealed carry permits. Those who take it seriously enough to get some kind of training when there is absolutely no legal need to do so.

So...not that bad of an idea given the alternative.

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Fri 12/04/15 08:13 AM

arent armed citizens the source of the mass shootings?
Yea....all those black armed citizens killing each other everyday....Thats wasnt even a good troll MsH, youre slippinglaugh

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Fri 12/04/15 08:14 AM


arent armed citizens the source of the mass shootings?
Yea....all those black armed citizens killing each other everyday....Thats wasnt even a good troll MsH, youre slippinglaugh
laugh

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Fri 12/04/15 08:22 AM


soooo,, how many mass shootings have happened WITHOUT an armed citizen?

lol

point is not that citizens with arms are all violence, point is that having more guns floating around isnt a solution to DECREASING gun violence,,,,

its like saying,, well, if more people had cars,, less car accidents,,

not an enditement against drivers at all,,, just kind of,,, using logic,,,


thats just bad logic all around... the statistics would always be the same... if you take 25% of the cars off the road, then crashes go down 25%, but stay the same as per capita... if the average of crashes is 2% with 100 cars on the road, then it would still be 2% with 10 cars on the road...

people have been killing each other since before they were even human, getting rid of guns won't stop/slow anything down, they will find other ways to kill...

in case you liberals haven't noticed, we all die sooner or later, you cannot stop death...

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Fri 12/04/15 08:27 AM
Here's you know 'logic' we've tried fewer guns in our Capitol(didn't work..things got worse), we've tried fewer guns in Chicago(didn't work..things got worse), we've tried fewer guns in New York(didn't work...things got worse) maybe logic dictates we try something new...you know like allowing people the ability to protect themselves

Maybe we try this(fast forward to 2:10)
http://youtu.be/3GAgIBgOA3M

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Fri 12/04/15 08:46 AM



arent armed citizens the source of the mass shootings?

you're not even funny!




soooo,, how many mass shootings have happened WITHOUT an armed citizen?

lol



Wrong question....better question would be could the mass shooting have been prevented by a LEGALLY armed citizen?


Did you hear about the mass shooting in texas?..
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/05/us/texas-police-shooting-hero/

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Fri 12/04/15 09:14 AM
Edited by karmafury on Fri 12/04/15 09:15 AM

soooo,, how many mass shootings have happened WITHOUT an armed citizen?





Plenty of examples here:http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/10/03/do-civilians-with-guns-ever-stop-mass-shootings/

http://controversialtimes.com/issues/constitutional-rights/12-times-mass-shootings-were-stopped-by-good-guys-with-guns/

http://blog.uritraining.com/?p=88



Some articles may repeat the occurrences of another article but ............ Yes, armed citizens can and do stop mass killings. They just don't have the numbers of dead to make major headlines.

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Sat 12/05/15 07:33 AM



soooo,, how many mass shootings have happened WITHOUT an armed citizen?

lol

point is not that citizens with arms are all violence, point is that having more guns floating around isnt a solution to DECREASING gun violence,,,,

its like saying,, well, if more people had cars,, less car accidents,,

not an enditement against drivers at all,,, just kind of,,, using logic,,,


thats just bad logic all around... the statistics would always be the same... if you take 25% of the cars off the road, then crashes go down 25%, but stay the same as per capita... if the average of crashes is 2% with 100 cars on the road, then it would still be 2% with 10 cars on the road...

people have been killing each other since before they were even human, getting rid of guns won't stop/slow anything down, they will find other ways to kill...

in case you liberals haven't noticed, we all die sooner or later, you cannot stop death...



there is no way to prove nothing would change, and if that were true, it would not matter WHAT was done because decreasing anything wouldnt change the 'per capita',,,(according to above logic)

and conversely, neither would increasing anything


america has a unique culture, and dont need more guns to mix with it,,,

msharmony's photo
Sat 12/05/15 07:34 AM


arent armed citizens the source of the mass shootings?
Yea....all those black armed citizens killing each other everyday....Thats wasnt even a good troll MsH, youre slippinglaugh




msharmony's photo
Sat 12/05/15 07:36 AM




arent armed citizens the source of the mass shootings?

you're not even funny!




soooo,, how many mass shootings have happened WITHOUT an armed citizen?

lol



Wrong question....better question would be could the mass shooting have been prevented by a LEGALLY armed citizen?


Did you hear about the mass shooting in texas?..
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/05/us/texas-police-shooting-hero/



I dont know

how much EVIDENCE supports this theory, that in a country with such high gun ownership

guns are being used to 'stop crimes' on any regular basis that should have us consider this the answer?


msharmony's photo
Sat 12/05/15 07:36 AM




arent armed citizens the source of the mass shootings?

you're not even funny!




soooo,, how many mass shootings have happened WITHOUT an armed citizen?

lol

point is not that citizens with arms are all violence, point is that having more guns floating around isnt a solution to DECREASING gun violence,,,,

its like saying,, well, if more people had cars,, less car accidents,,

not an enditement against drivers at all,,, just kind of,,, using logic,,,
rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl
You're getting funnier by the day!




msharmony's photo
Sat 12/05/15 07:39 AM


soooo,, how many mass shootings have happened WITHOUT an armed citizen?





Plenty of examples here:http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/10/03/do-civilians-with-guns-ever-stop-mass-shootings/

http://controversialtimes.com/issues/constitutional-rights/12-times-mass-shootings-were-stopped-by-good-guys-with-guns/

http://blog.uritraining.com/?p=88



Some articles may repeat the occurrences of another article but ............ Yes, armed citizens can and do stop mass killings. They just don't have the numbers of dead to make major headlines.

right, rarely

I will play out the scenario amongst americans

madman a walks in and starts shooting,, few people actually SEE the intial shots fired,,

legally armed citizens pop up with their guns out desiring to shoot the madman,, but,, WHICH armed person was the INITIAL gun man?

so I shoot the first person I see shooting, who happens to be shooting at the shooter,, or I see several people with guns and wait til any of them fire to fire, but perhaps I catch the one who is shooting at the shooter?,,,

,,see how this isnt as SIMPLE, when EVERYONE is armed,,? Figuring out the ORIGINAL perpetrator when the first shots arent witnessed?

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