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Topic: freedom of speech
abdeslam22's photo
Thu 03/10/16 12:25 PM
how we can write and critisize islam if we have no right , and facing by this death??
i need advises???

mightymoe's photo
Thu 03/10/16 12:30 PM

how we can write and critisize islam if we have no right , and facing by this death??
i need advises???


i'm still alive...

abdeslam22's photo
Thu 03/10/16 12:36 PM


how we can write and critisize islam if we have no right , and facing by this death??
i need advises???


i'm still alive...

BECAUSE i am still did not reach red line

Kindlightheart's photo
Thu 03/10/16 12:41 PM

how we can write and critisize islam if we have no right , and facing by this death??
i need advises???

...I am by far no expert...but depending where you are...I would say proceed with caution ...and wish you much strength and hope...flowerforyou

abdeslam22's photo
Thu 03/10/16 12:47 PM


how we can write and critisize islam if we have no right , and facing by this death??
i need advises???

...I am by far no expert...but depending where you are...I would say proceed with caution ...and wish you much strength and hope...flowerforyou

thank you for ur comment , the problem is that i'm currently living in islamic context

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/10/16 12:53 PM
Freedom of speech only applies to the country that has that. On the internet, freedom of speech doesn't apply. You follow the site rules

Frankk1950's photo
Thu 03/10/16 12:58 PM

how we can write and critisize islam if we have no right , and facing by this death??
i need advises???


The first thing to do would be remove your photo.Then stop drawing attention to yourself.

Dodo_David's photo
Thu 03/10/16 01:06 PM

how we can write and critisize islam if we have no right , and facing by this death??
i need advises???


Move to a nation where freedoms of speech and religion exist.

abdeslam22's photo
Thu 03/10/16 01:15 PM
Edited by abdeslam22 on Thu 03/10/16 01:17 PM


how we can write and critisize islam if we have no right , and facing by this death??
i need advises???


The first thing to do would be remove your photo.Then stop drawing attention to yourself.

thank you frank , you came in the right timing , i thougth of it but u make my decision applicable ;
i am not drawing attention but really i need advise , it's bad to stop what u love to do and feel comfortable , and it's bad not share my experience with people out there

abdeslam22's photo
Thu 03/10/16 01:18 PM


how we can write and critisize islam if we have no right , and facing by this death??
i need advises???


Move to a nation where freedoms of speech and religion exist.

yes it's more safe

Kindlightheart's photo
Thu 03/10/16 02:15 PM



how we can write and critisize islam if we have no right , and facing by this death??
i need advises???

...I am by far no expert...but depending where you are...I would say proceed with caution ...and wish you much strength and hope...flowerforyou

thank you for ur comment , the problem is that i'm currently living in islamic context

...honestly...I only recently have been trying to have a better understanding of Islam ...and frankly...wow...I can say my dad was right...it is impossible to be a true Muslim and reside in USA ...and truthfully speaking...I admire anyone who stands behind their heart,soul,and mind ...but all of these are infected by deliberate poor teaching...silly little sheep...

mightymoe's photo
Thu 03/10/16 02:23 PM



how we can write and critisize islam if we have no right , and facing by this death??
i need advises???


The first thing to do would be remove your photo.Then stop drawing attention to yourself.

thank you frank , you came in the right timing , i thougth of it but u make my decision applicable ;
i am not drawing attention but really i need advise , it's bad to stop what u love to do and feel comfortable , and it's bad not share my experience with people out there


they only way things can change is brave men/women doing what they think is right... the more people that can believe things as you do will start the change, but you cannot do anything if you don't try...

abdeslam22's photo
Thu 03/10/16 02:35 PM




how we can write and critisize islam if we have no right , and facing by this death??
i need advises???


The first thing to do would be remove your photo.Then stop drawing attention to yourself.

thank you frank , you came in the right timing , i thougth of it but u make my decision applicable ;
i am not drawing attention but really i need advise , it's bad to stop what u love to do and feel comfortable , and it's bad not share my experience with people out there


they only way things can change is brave men/women doing what they think is right... the more people that can believe things as you do will start the change, but you cannot do anything if you don't try...

i am sure i will do , but i am not stupid to die in the first day without planing what 's going to happen , u are in USA where i am not and there is a huge difference between the two .
frredom needs blood , but the question remains is that the only way?

mightymoe's photo
Thu 03/10/16 02:45 PM





how we can write and critisize islam if we have no right , and facing by this death??
i need advises???


The first thing to do would be remove your photo.Then stop drawing attention to yourself.

thank you frank , you came in the right timing , i thougth of it but u make my decision applicable ;
i am not drawing attention but really i need advise , it's bad to stop what u love to do and feel comfortable , and it's bad not share my experience with people out there


they only way things can change is brave men/women doing what they think is right... the more people that can believe things as you do will start the change, but you cannot do anything if you don't try...

i am sure i will do , but i am not stupid to die in the first day without planing what 's going to happen , u are in USA where i am not and there is a huge difference between the two .
frredom needs blood , but the question remains is that the only way?
i don't know of any other way, especially when dealing with fanatics... religious people don't want their ways/beliefs changed...

luck at the history of USA, lots of blood has been shed to get where we are...

abdeslam22's photo
Thu 03/10/16 02:46 PM




how we can write and critisize islam if we have no right , and facing by this death??
i need advises???

...I am by far no expert...but depending where you are...I would say proceed with caution ...and wish you much strength and hope...flowerforyou

thank you for ur comment , the problem is that i'm currently living in islamic context

...honestly...I only recently have been trying to have a better understanding of Islam ...and frankly...wow...I can say my dad was right...it is impossible to be a true Muslim and reside in USA ...and truthfully speaking...I admire anyone who stands behind their heart,soul,and mind ...but all of these are infected by deliberate poor teaching...silly little sheep...

YES ur dad is right , it's impossible to be true muslim which applies Quran and hadits and obeys ALLAH's words and live in USA ; let's take a simple example which is the why u look , it's MONKAR means sth forbidden and need to be change by 3 things , by hand , by words , by heart ; if u are strong change by hand and violance and if u are weak and can not change by hand then you can use the two options
real muslims are the ones who apply ALLAH'S WORDS and who did not apply them , whose are unbelievers

abdeslam22's photo
Thu 03/10/16 02:53 PM






how we can write and critisize islam if we have no right , and facing by this death??
i need advises???


The first thing to do would be remove your photo.Then stop drawing attention to yourself.

thank you frank , you came in the right timing , i thougth of it but u make my decision applicable ;
i am not drawing attention but really i need advise , it's bad to stop what u love to do and feel comfortable , and it's bad not share my experience with people out there


they only way things can change is brave men/women doing what they think is right... the more people that can believe things as you do will start the change, but you cannot do anything if you don't try...

i am sure i will do , but i am not stupid to die in the first day without planing what 's going to happen , u are in USA where i am not and there is a huge difference between the two .
frredom needs blood , but the question remains is that the only way?
i don't know of any other way, especially when dealing with fanatics... religious people don't want their ways/beliefs changed...

luck at the history of USA, lots of blood has been shed to get where we are...

yes you are right , but now we are 21ce AND the condition are not the same as 16CEN .free human can support unfree human to be free or to courage them to do more

JaiGi's photo
Fri 03/11/16 07:38 AM

I don't think one can change people by critique.
it works in opposite direction.

Somehow, with all the oil & the discipline of Koran
the average young Muslim appears to be under educated in sciences.
I have met smart trainees in Mid East; superb guys
but low science & English; felt sad;
another generation wasted away.

As you may know, with science a whole different mind-space
opens up. and the byproducts are automatic,
one actually starts to appreciate world history.

For instance, i still ask myself;
why was India sleeping in the 17-18th centuriessick ?
a turning point in world history.

There may be other ways but science teachers
are unforgettable; could help next generation.
winking

no1phD's photo
Fri 03/11/16 08:17 AM
Change only comes by affecting change .. butt changes need to be beneficial for both parties involved...
But the changes you are suggesting..op.. would not benefit both parties.. but in order for that to happen your opposition would have to be open to the idea... that their belief systems could be wrong.. in other words !they would have to be opened.. to the idea of having at least real dialogue... be truly open to hearing what the other party has to say... sadly your opposition is not!!..
.. and when one is faced with closed-minded opposition... it is better to move or to seek out people with similar thinking of yourself... one cannot fight the current you either swim Downriver with it ..or get out of the water completely..yup

abdeslam22's photo
Fri 03/11/16 10:12 AM


I don't think one can change people by critique.
it works in opposite direction.

Somehow, with all the oil & the discipline of Koran
the average young Muslim appears to be under educated in sciences.
I have met smart trainees in Mid East; superb guys
but low science & English; felt sad;
another generation wasted away.

As you may know, with science a whole different mind-space
opens up. and the byproducts are automatic,
one actually starts to appreciate world history.

For instance, i still ask myself;
why was India sleeping in the 17-18th centuriessick ?
a turning point in world history.

There may be other ways but science teachers
are unforgettable; could help next generation.
winking


here we have a failed educational system , and science here is just word and has no connection to the real world . there are a lot of kinds of drug but our society has installed the worst drug, and killed the ability to know the power of human brain. HERE they don't give a chance to science because they think quran is the source of science and so they are . here i hear always from people that western scientists are not scientists but the man with a beard is , every one has a mobile comes from unbelievers , so we have to thank them for facilitated and simplified our lifes not to hate them . Sir , to gain freedom , one needs to sacrifice , and the second is that western can change especially USA

abdeslam22's photo
Fri 03/11/16 10:19 AM

Change only comes by affecting change .. butt changes need to be beneficial for both parties involved...
But the changes you are suggesting..op.. would not benefit both parties.. but in order for that to happen your opposition would have to be open to the idea... that their belief systems could be wrong.. in other words !they would have to be opened.. to the idea of having at least real dialogue... be truly open to hearing what the other party has to say... sadly your opposition is not!!..
.. and when one is faced with closed-minded opposition... it is better to move or to seek out people with similar thinking of yourself... one cannot fight the current you either swim Downriver with it ..or get out of the water completely..yup

WE have closed-minded people and this is the hardest and dangerous part . the fact is even with those kind of people , wind of change is coming and that's just a matter of time

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