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Edited by
JaiGi
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An interesting report from Global Age watch shows population sizes for those beyond 60 for 2015 / 2050
http://www.helpage.org/global-agewatch/ the numbers in the table are rough extracts from the website. The last 2 additional columns are my estimates for people living beyond 100 based on pension (income) and 30% of those in their 60s today making it beyond & this is what we get.. ____P_in_2015____million__2050___Pension___100yrs____mill-2050 Austr____20%_______5______28%_____62%_________6%______3 Canada__22%_______8______32%_____98%________10%______8 Germany_28%______22______40%____100%________13%______3 France___25%______16______32%____100%________10%______1.6 China____28%_____210______40%____100%________13%_____26 India______9%____120______20%_____30%_________2%_____24 Phili______7%______7______14%_____28%_________1.2%____8 Japan____33%______42______43%____100%________14%______5 Saudi_____5%_______1.6____21%____100%_________7%______- USA____20%______67______28%____100%________10%______7 Russia___20%______29______29%____100%________10%______3 --xx -- note: Column 7 values = col6 x col5 / 3 (by my estimate) in other words, 7 million or 2% of US citizens around 65 today will live to see 2050. (2% = 7m / 300m) --xx-- this post is inspired by one of our members who suggested i get off the Trump subject (may be cause he belongs to the USA). alright, my conclusions are: with Trump and Putin in power for next 8 years, chances of some of us around in 2050 improve vastly. happy birthday Sassy, for 2060 in advance.  |
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who wants to live to be 100?.. not me, that's for sure. Sitting there humped over on the porch of the Shady Oaks rest home.. waiting for my meds and paper cup of water. Nah...not for me. probably right but that still leaves 1%, say 3+ million going on to 110; starting medications say around 90? depends on lifestyle.. what we are seeing is a global phenomena with Canada, China, US and Russia having >100 populations hovering close to 10 million each. By the way, the figures for China, India & Philippines have to be corrected; it would be 8 million and 2 million respectively. may do it later, a thumb rule for now. |
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I actually have every intentions of living to a 100 and beyond. My family does have longevity in our DNA.
I do think it does have a lot to do with lifestyles etc.. My grandparents lived to be well over a 100 only seeing their doctors once a year for physicals, When they started going down hill it was quickly bless them. |
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I only want to be sure to be around for my youngest to be self sufficient,,
how much longer I stick around after that never concerned me much |
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Edited by
JaiGi
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Sun 05/15/16 12:24 PM
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I only want to be sure to be around for my youngest to be self sufficient,, how much longer I stick around after that never concerned me much you are 40 plus, just a kid and write like this!!!! and with 'tranquility' part of who you are, most likely cross 100 like some of our yogis here. better start penny pinching. haha
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happy birthday Sassy, for 2060 in advance.
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An interesting report from Global Age watch shows population sizes for those beyond 60 for 2015 / 2050 ...USA____20%______67______28%___ Are you sure that wasn't a chart showing the aging of the population? Where in 2015 20% of the population is over 65 and it's estimated that in 2050 28% of the population will be over 65? The relevant factor being not enough babies are being born? Japan and the U.S. have been having problems with an aging population. Increasing levels of old people living off a system without being replaced by younger workers. It's a common argument for why illegals should be coddled, to increase the number of people paying into the system. Because god forbid the government support or promote families and women and men that want to stay home and raise families rather than be super independent career oriented goal monsters that don't need anyone can take care of themselves and will settle down "later." The last 2 additional columns are my estimates for people living beyond 100 based on pension (income) What does the existence of pension income have to do with life expectancy? Especially when the number of people that actually have a "pension" has declined dramatically. Only about 20% of those currently employed in the private sector will retire with a "pension." Are you only referring to government employees? They're the ones with pensions. But they'll never retire. Especially politicians that get their salary for life. Like ticks they are going to stick to sucking on Washington as long as possible. 7 million or 2% of US citizens around 65 today will live to see 2050 Do you really believe there are 350,000,000 US citizens "around 65 today?" Is Mexico, South and Central America only sending their retirees as illegals and no one noticed? Or did you mean "approximately 7 million, or around 2%, of US citizens around today will live to see 2050?" Or are you doing the math to determine eligibility age for a full pension in 2050? Like by 2050 you don't get a pension (or social security) until you hit 100? I can easily see that. with Trump and Putin in power for next 8 years, chances of some of us around in 2050 improve vastly. Based on your table, only if they promote people getting pensions, apparently. |
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JaiGi,
Strokes among young adults- (Americans) surge 44% over 10 years – study http://www.rt.com/usa/343001-stroke-young-adult-americans/ Asians are not mentioned. Which means they are not in top 3 groups.... Why? IMO & what most doctors would say (which is not mentioned in the article), DIET & LIFESTYLE. These are stats with no rhyme or reason.. PC America. They will name race, but NOT say what race/culture, is doing anything wrong. So they can't say what race.. Asian, is doing anything right. ... Because then, that would be implied racism. And another damn protest.. : And avoiding that is more important than health & longevity. .  |
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JaiGi, Strokes among young adults- (Americans) surge 44% over 10 years – study http://www.rt.com/usa/343001-stroke-young-adult-americans/ Asians are not mentioned. Which means they are not in top 3 groups.... Why? IMO & what most doctors would say (which is not mentioned in the article), DIET & LIFESTYLE. These are stats with no rhyme or reason.. PC America. They will name race, but NOT say what race/culture, is doing anything wrong. So they can't say what race.. Asian, is doing anything right. ... Because then, that would be implied racism. And another damn protest.. : And avoiding that is more important than health & longevity. . Spent lot of time in south China. And their old people (85 and above) are mobile. Riding bikes, ( for transportation, not for fun) walking all over the place, climbing stairs. ect, ect. The food they eat turned my western stomach.. but fact is, they are healthy and in my opinion in part because of the food they eat. No elevators in the restaurant ( where I was anyway) they walked up the stairs, never saw a rascal type riding chair.. never saw a old person being wheeled around in a wheel chair. I am convinced their longevity is due to their need for mobility and the food they eat. JMO 
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An interesting report from Global Age watch shows population sizes for those beyond 60 for 2015 / 2050 ...USA____20%______67______28%___ Are you sure that wasn't a chart showing the aging of the population? Where in 2015 20% of the population is over 65 and it's estimated that in 2050 28% of the population will be over 65? The relevant factor being not enough babies are being born? Japan and the U.S. have been having problems with an aging population. Increasing levels of old people living off a system without being replaced by younger workers. It's a common argument for why illegals should be coddled, to increase the number of people paying into the system. Because god forbid the government support or promote families and women and men that want to stay home and raise families rather than be super independent career oriented goal monsters that don't need anyone can take care of themselves and will settle down "later." The last 2 additional columns are my estimates for people living beyond 100 based on pension (income) What does the existence of pension income have to do with life expectancy? Especially when the number of people that actually have a "pension" has declined dramatically. Only about 20% of those currently employed in the private sector will retire with a "pension." Are you only referring to government employees? They're the ones with pensions. But they'll never retire. Especially politicians that get their salary for life. Like ticks they are going to stick to sucking on Washington as long as possible. 7 million or 2% of US citizens around 65 today will live to see 2050 Do you really believe there are 350,000,000 US citizens "around 65 today?" Is Mexico, South and Central America only sending their retirees as illegals and no one noticed? Or did you mean "approximately 7 million, or around 2%, of US citizens around today will live to see 2050?" Or are you doing the math to determine eligibility age for a full pension in 2050? Like by 2050 you don't get a pension (or social security) until you hit 100? I can easily see that. with Trump and Putin in power for next 8 years, chances of some of us around in 2050 improve vastly. Based on your table, only if they promote people getting pensions, apparently. that's some excellent criticism. i agree there are a lot of variables and the table has to reworked along with how post retirement income / life styles are to be factored in. would then form a nice model to compare one's own standing against such data. there are several implications and you are right it need not have been in the political forum if, as i do think; this is more for inspiration rather than any political agenda. i'm saving this page for later reference. in fact, you are probably the person who could develop all this to a stable model. if so, i would be definitely interested to see it. probably insurance & other companies are already on it.  |
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Hope to see 100
Live like I won't make it past 30 Pray I land somewhere in between So far, so good 
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