Topic: Homeowner Shoots, Kills Teen Burglary Suspect
msharmony's photo
Sun 10/09/16 10:29 AM


My goodness the cops were called she got home before they did caught the kid crawling out the window.... I would have shot his azz too..

Since I was not there and no video to watch who knows if she could have just went to wound him instead or not.. When you are in that situation and you have took shooting lessons you are taught to shoot to kill not to ohh let me see if I shoot them in the leg or the air will they stop and give themselves up?? Most likely heck no they are going to come after you and take you down...


This is why I finally changed my mine on getting protection due to living alone... Someone breaks into my house if I'm in there they are going down.. Never wanted or cared to have a gun.. But ya can bet that has changed with all that happens in this world now..


Yeah, but your also taught to pull your gun and shoot if your in a live threatening situation and there is no other option. I don't know the details, but it sounds like she shot him to prevent him from leaving the property, and in my opinion that isn't ok.......

If she would have been inside the house when the break in happened, that would be another story.




surprised surprised I cannot believe we agree on this,,,

kewl

Rock's photo
Sun 10/09/16 10:57 AM


The little thug, got what he deserved.

There is no inherent "right", to burglarize
another person's home.




Burglary isn't a capital offense in the US.


Get caught breaking into a house,
and find out.

:thumbsup:

Annierooroo's photo
Sun 10/09/16 11:41 AM
If he put more energy in getting and keeping a job he wouldn't need to steal.

All my kids had after school jobs and sports which kept the too busy to steal.

msharmony's photo
Sun 10/09/16 01:33 PM
not all kids have the same situations, opportunities, environments or opportunities


stealing is still against the law however,,,,

but not penalized with a death penalty

msharmony's photo
Sun 10/09/16 01:44 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 10/09/16 01:46 PM
question 1: where is this photo of him with the jewelry?

question 2: where is the evidence that he did/did not pawn it or that he had it to pawn instead of just to use in a photo?

and noone has argued yet on this thread that it was alright for him to be in her home (no word if he actually took anything, based on the OP)

the posed question was about if it should be ok for her to rush home to shoot him,,,

no photo
Sun 10/09/16 02:16 PM



and now he won't be able to earn that PHD he wanted so bad.
Wonder where he got the money for that jewelry and the gold tooth?


MsH, Gold Teefs! few bucks there for sure

Not the kids first time at the B&E rodeo. Good Christian at least?

Too much credit being given here, it's a shame he chose this path in life but they should not get ahead by stealing others

msharmony's photo
Sun 10/09/16 02:30 PM




and now he won't be able to earn that PHD he wanted so bad.
Wonder where he got the money for that jewelry and the gold tooth?


MsH, Gold Teefs! few bucks there for sure

Not the kids first time at the B&E rodeo. Good Christian at least?

Too much credit being given here, it's a shame he chose this path in life but they should not get ahead by stealing others



I dont know how legit those photos are, ,or the quality of the 'gold teeth'

but I agree , its not ok to get ahead by stealing'

its not ok either, to rush home to shoot someone,,,,,

no photo
Sun 10/09/16 02:34 PM

I dont know how legit those photos are, ,or the quality of the 'gold teeth'

but I agree , its not ok to get ahead by stealing'

its not ok either, to rush home to shoot someone,,,,,




It's perfectly ok to rush home and try to protect what's left of their home.

It's still not ok to use the side window of a strangers home to escape a theft.

is there no deterrent for the people who do this? If the possibility of certain death won't stop them, what will?

no photo
Sun 10/09/16 02:42 PM
I dont know how legit those photos are, ,or the quality of the 'gold teeth'

but I agree , its not ok to get ahead by stealing'

its not ok either, to rush home to shoot someone,,,,,


Unless their exiting your home with your stuff. She had the right to protect her property. Who knows, he may have threatened her. We don't know the circumstances. He should have been taught better by his parents.

msharmony's photo
Sun 10/09/16 02:47 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 10/09/16 02:52 PM

I dont know how legit those photos are, ,or the quality of the 'gold teeth'

but I agree , its not ok to get ahead by stealing'

its not ok either, to rush home to shoot someone,,,,,


Unless their exiting your home with your stuff. She had the right to protect her property. Who knows, he may have threatened her. We don't know the circumstances. He should have been taught better by his parents.



guess that depends upon how jacked up a state is

you could say teens who speak vulgar in public or speed on the highway should have been 'taught better' , but none of that would justify someone shooting them either

but morally, I dont believe its ok to exchange a human life just to retrieve property,,,

msharmony's photo
Sun 10/09/16 02:49 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 10/09/16 02:51 PM


I dont know how legit those photos are, ,or the quality of the 'gold teeth'

but I agree , its not ok to get ahead by stealing'

its not ok either, to rush home to shoot someone,,,,,




It's perfectly ok to rush home and try to protect what's left of their home.

It's still not ok to use the side window of a strangers home to escape a theft.

is there no deterrent for the people who do this? If the possibility of certain death won't stop them, what will?


why not a 'deterrent' of death for all crimes?

where should we stop?

if someone jaywalks,, shoot them?
if someone steals a candy bar ,,shoot them?
if someone pushes you,, shoot them?


the deterrent is if someone is HOME you could be killed due to being a threat

the deterrent is if caught and prosecuted , you can ruin your future with a criminal record, become target of police for the rest of your life due to criminal record, or get thrown in a cell with a truly THREATENING or violent person

you are not threatening anyone in an EMPTY HOME<, unless they rush home to shoot you and claim that you were

no photo
Sun 10/09/16 05:57 PM
why not a 'deterrent' of death for all crimes?

where should we stop?

if someone jaywalks,, shoot them?
if someone steals a candy bar ,,shoot them?
if someone pushes you,, shoot them?


the deterrent is if someone is HOME you could be killed due to being a threat

the deterrent is if caught and prosecuted , you can ruin your future with a criminal record, become target of police for the rest of your life due to criminal record, or get thrown in a cell with a truly THREATENING or violent person

you are not threatening anyone in an EMPTY HOME<, unless they rush home to shoot you and claim that you were


No one has suggested that there should be a death penalty for such things. But death is always a possibility no matter what the crime.
His death right or wrong should be deterrent to others that it can happen. It is sad that he lost his life, what ever he took was not worth his life but it was is choice to put himself in that situation.

msharmony's photo
Sun 10/09/16 07:28 PM
it can be argued that we all put ourselves in the 'situations' we suffer,,even at the hands of others

he should have been jailed

shooting him dead should be penalized,,,,

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 10/09/16 07:35 PM
Edited by yellowrose10 on Sun 10/09/16 07:45 PM

I will 'boo hoo' whenever someone loses their life unnecessarily

I will 'boo hoo' whenever someones irreplacable life is taken over very replacable property,,,

others can choose only to boohoo certain types of life that are lost


That's your opinion and I wasn't referring to you. I was speaking about the family. I don't care about your opinion. Please quote me next time.

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 10/09/16 07:40 PM
With all of the heightened self protection these days, anyone stupid enough to do something like that risks getting shot. Even coming out of a window, I don't know if he is armed. People have a right to protect themselves, loved ones amd property. Don't boo hoo because some punk broke in and got shot. The family of the "victim" should own up to what he was.

msharmony's photo
Sun 10/09/16 07:43 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 10/09/16 07:44 PM
police 'risk' their life too, knowing they may die for their choice

wouldnt justify actually shooting them dead now would it?


knowing something involves a risk of death doesnt justify the actions of the one who chooses to take a life,, in my book

so, I will 'boo hoo' whenever someone loses their life unnecessarily

I will 'boo hoo' whenever someones irreplacable life is taken over very replacable property,,,

others can choose only to boohoo certain types of life that are lost

msharmony's photo
Sun 10/09/16 07:46 PM
I Wasnt referring to you either, but to the opinions in the thread


kind of how this thing works,,,

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 10/09/16 07:48 PM
Edited by yellowrose10 on Sun 10/09/16 07:50 PM

I Wasnt referring to you either, but to the opinions in the thread


kind of how this thing works,,,



Ummmm I was the one that used the term boo hoo. Nice try. This is your opinion. Depending in the state, home owners have every right to defend self, others and property. I stand by that. Move along

msharmony's photo
Sun 10/09/16 07:50 PM
laugh laugh

isaac_dede's photo
Sun 10/09/16 07:50 PM

it can be argued that we all put ourselves in the 'situations' we suffer,,even at the hands of others

he should have been jailed

shooting him dead should be penalized,,,,


so where does this stop?

Do we penalize the woman who shot a man that just raped her?

Do we penalized a fireman for property damage because he didn't put the fire out quicker?

Do we penalized the officer that pulled us over making us miss work and get fired.
should he be on the hook for wages lost?

He was a criminal, he got caught, doing something thag was illegal, and he paid the price...with his life.

bottom line, he wad doing something that has consequences, he faced one.....