Topic: 22 Reasons to Vote For Trump
msharmony's photo
Tue 11/01/16 04:34 PM


love the denial

https://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/trump-in-2008-interview-i-support-hillary-i-think-shes-fanta?utm_term=.fgVnoppd5#.oxP2pYYZ1


wont stab you in the back, huh?

'great friend',,,

contributes to her candidacy and praises her against OBama and then swears she will be the end of the world against him


everything out his mouth is hot air


so whats your point here? in 2008, at the same time, obarry said she was not presidential material...



my point is both sides pick and choose the information and associates and critiques that fit their bias


instead of observing what the CANDIDATES themselves do and say and what their history of experience has been

mightymoe's photo
Tue 11/01/16 04:39 PM



love the denial

https://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/trump-in-2008-interview-i-support-hillary-i-think-shes-fanta?utm_term=.fgVnoppd5#.oxP2pYYZ1


wont stab you in the back, huh?

'great friend',,,

contributes to her candidacy and praises her against OBama and then swears she will be the end of the world against him


everything out his mouth is hot air


so whats your point here? in 2008, at the same time, obarry said she was not presidential material...



my point is both sides pick and choose the information and associates and critiques that fit their bias


instead of observing what the CANDIDATES themselves do and say and what their history of experience has been


yea, i agree... a {self-made} billionaire businessman, and a lying snob who's history is sketchy at best...

msharmony's photo
Tue 11/01/16 04:50 PM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 11/01/16 04:51 PM
both lie, so the character assassination is irrelevant

and its hard to claim 'self made' when you are given tens of millions of dollars to start with and an already established business, name, and network of banks and colleagues

and that 'success' means little without accompanying integrity

no photo
Tue 11/01/16 05:02 PM

both lie, so the character assassination is irrelevant

and its hard to claim 'self made' when you are given tens of millions of dollars to start with and an already established business, name, and network of banks and colleagues

and that 'success' means little without accompanying integrity


Well, at least you agreed that Hillary is a liar

msharmony's photo
Tue 11/01/16 05:12 PM
I said both have 'lied' ,by the common use of the word





mightymoe's photo
Tue 11/01/16 05:18 PM

both lie, so the character assassination is irrelevant

and its hard to claim 'self made' when you are given tens of millions of dollars to start with and an already established business, name, and network of banks and colleagues

and that 'success' means little without accompanying integrity


what self made billionaire has lots of integrity? trumps daddy didn't build the casinos, hotels or towers, he did...

no photo
Tue 11/01/16 05:22 PM

I said both have 'lied' ,by the common use of the word




Yeah, which means if they lied.. they are liars.. about as common usage as it gets.

you are a liar or you are not.. simple as that.

So, if Hillary has lied, as you stated. How do you know when she is lying and when she is telling the truth?

If you are a liar.. none of your words can be trusted.


msharmony's photo
Tue 11/01/16 05:39 PM


both lie, so the character assassination is irrelevant

and its hard to claim 'self made' when you are given tens of millions of dollars to start with and an already established business, name, and network of banks and colleagues

and that 'success' means little without accompanying integrity


what self made billionaire has lots of integrity? trumps daddy didn't build the casinos, hotels or towers, he did...



you mean the casinos and towers that didnt go bankrupt?..lol

Trump didnt build them, but some illegal immigrants were involved and some of his daddys money, and some banks whose relationships were well established by the Trump name already



msharmony's photo
Tue 11/01/16 05:42 PM


I said both have 'lied' ,by the common use of the word




Yeah, which means if they lied.. they are liars.. about as common usage as it gets.

you are a liar or you are not.. simple as that.

So, if Hillary has lied, as you stated. How do you know when she is lying and when she is telling the truth?

If you are a liar.. none of your words can be trusted.






Im considering my audience,, who use 'lie' incorrectly anytime someones usage of words mismatches facts

LIE, actually requires an INTENT to deceive,, many errors and mistakes of facts are made without an intent to deceive,, which is obvious from the repeated nonsense in these threads who BELIEVE what they are saying is true, and therefore not 'lying',,,

and both Trump and Hilary have been caught in this 'lying' scenario many times


I agree, if you are a liar, you intend to decieve and cant be trusted

if you are just mistaken or misinformed, your words cant be trusted either



mightymoe's photo
Tue 11/01/16 05:43 PM



both lie, so the character assassination is irrelevant

and its hard to claim 'self made' when you are given tens of millions of dollars to start with and an already established business, name, and network of banks and colleagues

and that 'success' means little without accompanying integrity


what self made billionaire has lots of integrity? trumps daddy didn't build the casinos, hotels or towers, he did...

you mean the casinos and towers that didnt go bankrupt?..lol

Trump didnt build them, but some illegal immigrants were involved and some of his daddys money, and some banks whose relationships were well established by the Trump name already


i take it you're happy with the amount of moneys collected by the clintons from the muslim countries?

msharmony's photo
Tue 11/01/16 05:48 PM
whoa

Trump’s Taj Mahal opened in April 1990 in Atlantic City, but six months later, “defaulted on interest payments to bondholders as his finances went into a tailspin,” The Washington Post’s Robert O’Harrow found. In July 1991, Trump’s Taj Mahal filed for bankruptcy. He could not keep up with debts on two other Atlantic City casinos, and those two properties declared bankruptcy in 1992. A fourth property, the Plaza Hotel in New York, declared bankruptcy in 1992 after amassing debt.

PolitiFact uncovered two more bankruptcies filed after 1992, totaling six. Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts filed for bankruptcy again in 2004, after accruing about $1.8 billion in debt. Trump Entertainment Resorts also declared bankruptcy in 2009, after being hit hard during the 2008 recession.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2016/live-updates/general-election/real-time-fact-checking-and-analysis-of-the-first-presidential-debate/fact-check-has-trump-declared-bankruptcy-four-or-six-times/

then there is Trump steaks
Trump Airlines
Trump Vodka
Trump mortgage
Trump magazine
Trump board game

,,and on and on and on,,,,

dont imagine someone without a certain family name and inherited network could have that many failures and still be considered a success

mightymoe's photo
Tue 11/01/16 05:51 PM
Edited by mightymoe on Tue 11/01/16 05:55 PM

whoa

Trump’s Taj Mahal opened in April 1990 in Atlantic City, but six months later, “defaulted on interest payments to bondholders as his finances went into a tailspin,” The Washington Post’s Robert O’Harrow found. In July 1991, Trump’s Taj Mahal filed for bankruptcy. He could not keep up with debts on two other Atlantic City casinos, and those two properties declared bankruptcy in 1992. A fourth property, the Plaza Hotel in New York, declared bankruptcy in 1992 after amassing debt.

PolitiFact uncovered two more bankruptcies filed after 1992, totaling six. Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts filed for bankruptcy again in 2004, after accruing about $1.8 billion in debt. Trump Entertainment Resorts also declared bankruptcy in 2009, after being hit hard during the 2008 recession.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2016/live-updates/general-election/real-time-fact-checking-and-analysis-of-the-first-presidential-debate/fact-check-has-trump-declared-bankruptcy-four-or-six-times/

then there is Trump steaks
Trump Airlines
Trump Vodka
Trump mortgage
Trump magazine
Trump board game

,,and on and on and on,,,,

dont imagine someone without a certain family name and inherited network could have that many failures and still be considered a success


huh... and yet, i don't see the FBI knocking on his door about any of it....


but like you didn't answer, does it bother you the a president "owes favors" for the donations made to her?

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article24782695.html

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2015/apr/20/reince-priebus/hillary-clinton-took-money-kings-four-countries-go/

msharmony's photo
Tue 11/01/16 07:23 PM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 11/01/16 07:24 PM
but the Feds have knocked on Trumps door nearly a couple hundred times actually


does it bother you to beat your wife?

(thats called a loaded question because it assumes a truth thats not proven)


but to the point,, no more than it bothers me for them to OWE anything to anyone who has supported them,, like voters,,

mightymoe's photo
Tue 11/01/16 07:47 PM

but the Feds have knocked on Trumps door nearly a couple hundred times actually


does it bother you to beat your wife?

(thats called a loaded question because it assumes a truth thats not proven)


but to the point,, no more than it bothers me for them to OWE anything to anyone who has supported them,, like voters,,


i don't know, i see no proof of that.. but i do know they haven't knocked on trumps door while he's been running for prez...



LittleLeftofRight's photo
Tue 11/01/16 08:23 PM


I said both have 'lied' ,by the common use of the word




Yeah, which means if they lied.. they are liars.. about as common usage as it gets.

you are a liar or you are not.. simple as that.

So, if Hillary has lied, as you stated. How do you know when she is lying and when she is telling the truth?

If you are a liar.. none of your words can be trusted.





very true all of it. Good post.

not to single out any particular member, however for example, if a poster made a statement, and posted a citation to validate the statement, then when examining the citation only to discover the citation does not validate the statement the poster made, a court would conclude was a lie with intent to lie.







LittleLeftofRight's photo
Tue 11/01/16 08:34 PM
Edited by LittleLeftofRight on Tue 11/01/16 08:37 PM


does it bother you to beat your wife?

(thats called a loaded question because it assumes a truth thats not proven)




It would definitely bother me if you beat my wife.

(and the court bursts out in laughter, judge gets pissed and asks the attorney to rephrase *and do a better job loading the next question*. lol bigsmile




LittleLeftofRight's photo
Tue 11/01/16 09:16 PM
Edited by LittleLeftofRight on Tue 11/01/16 09:23 PM


but the Feds have knocked on Trumps door nearly a couple hundred times actually


does it bother you to beat your wife?

(thats called a loaded question because it assumes a truth thats not proven)


but to the point,, no more than it bothers me for them to OWE anything to anyone who has supported them,, like voters,,


i don't know, i see no proof of that.. but i do know they haven't knocked on trumps door while he's been running for prez...






and you wont because it does not exist.

However when it come to crooked hillary and her partner in crime that is a completely different story.

Our school system which is nothin more than public indoctrination centers fail to teach so much as the fundamental principles and importance of law.

Clinton takes an oath of office, and every oath offiice carries with it not only the duty to uphold the constitution (which you can wipe your ***** with now days), but also fiduciary duties as 'trustees' of the public trust.

If you look back in the formative years of the union that was the the highest concern, and today through years of cancerous corruption, no one has ever heard of it.

As much as I hate that genocidal mass murdering scumbag churchill he did get one thing right.





That said; lies and deception from Hillary respecting her actions while on the public payroll is a crime, while a lie from private citizen trump is quite meaningless.

The very sad part is that I have had attorneys on the other side of the isle lie through their teeth, even demanded judicial notice and the equally corrupt judges do not do their duty and sanction them.

The moral of the story is the whole system is corrupt beyond recognition and Hillary supporters knowingly and willfully are going to attempt to elect a criminal for the big chair and expect she will improve the state of the union.















Sos's photo
Tue 11/01/16 09:24 PM
Trump. He has made it through life and the only thing perhaps he has not achieved is POTUS. My heart bleeds for America. You don't make something great by building a wall around it. It makes it look fishy. Hillary. She has always admired that office and she has the experience though she has scandals. My vote. Am not an American.

Kindlightheart's photo
Tue 11/01/16 09:40 PM
It's funny..everytime I see mention of the rape case she defended I remember that movie Devils Advocate...lol.. I personally have never felt she is worthy... I know women that have done far more for women and children in my own circle..she loves herself and that's who she advocates for..flowerforyou

LittleLeftofRight's photo
Tue 11/01/16 10:07 PM
yeh, thats what the clintons are all about, money and power, and anytbing they do is geared to obtain more money and more power. Look at those servers, taking all her dirty dealing off record, then destroying evidence under congressional subpoena, us commoners would get tossed in jail and the keys lost. What the rest of the world is looking at, if she gets voted in is our complete lack of morals in this country, that people would actually vote for the likes of her in the first place. who ever is the most british wins the elections, and hillary is the most british in this election.