Treason is an act against ones nation, not constitution specific. Again, where does the constitution forbid gun regulation? The right to bare arms does not mean without regulation;^]

That is exactly what criminals do, they harm people, and violate the rights of others, or damage others or steal their life sustenance for themselves, I feel if some one tries to take away my protection in some way, he is a threat to my life. What do you think? Or tries to regulate me out of my protection, or rights!!! He is chiseling away or stealing what is mine and is not his right to take!! Just for the record, I think the king of england was also a criminal, Who gave him the deed to America(Land of Heaven)so he could give out land grants, to who he wanted, I figure this country was stolen from the Native Americans. I still don't think any one truthfully owns the land. I think it belongs to God,and we are squatters. I still don't believe those fairy stories of buying Manhattan for beads and trinkets ,do You? Native Americans never claimed any one man owned a piece of ground, then how did anyone buy it?

Again regulation isn't taking away your guns unless your a convicted felon or otherwise unfit for the alienable right to firearms. If you don't like america & protective regulations or paying taxes, geeettttt ouuuttttt!! Dam it feels good to flip that one;^]

In '68, where I live in Michigan, a kid came with a gun one day and never got back into school. As soon as they found he had it he was out of school. I will be happy when they deregulate everything, I love driving 170 mph though neighborhoods. Well I mean everything except a woman's right to choose, and weed of course. Look at what good all the deregulation has done in the last few decades. More competition, lower taxes and so on. At least for a few years, of course then no competition, no jobs, higher taxes, worst service, and lines everywhere. Deregulate it all, hand the US over to the corporations, sounds good to me. After all isn't it "of the corporation, by the corporation, and for the corporation"? Even if he wasn't the only one talking about the issues Kucinich still has my vote just for the way he stood up to the power company. I guess I will waste my vote again but at least I'll vote for the only one looking out for the people.

SMO. I was with you right up until you brought up Indians. If you feel that they are owed repriations,feel free to go to any of their reservations that their multimillion dollar casinos are on and hand over your money. Turtle. You come here and the only thing coming out of your mouth is"prove it, prove it# reminds me of a third grader. The reason we have the right to bear arms aka 2nd amendment is to protect the 1rst amendment and if ever shall arise to overthrow a tyrannical government. I notice that you say protective regulation. I simply see it as a regulation. A criminal will get his hands on a weapon no matter what law you try to enforce. Heres a scary thought. Enforce the laws on the already in the books.You cry about guns. Like they are some evil entity that jumps into someones hands and makes them do evil. Thats like saying ban all cars and theres no more drunks driving them. Go ask Nicole Brown Simpson what killed her. Ted Kennedys car has killed more people then my civilian gun. Go spout your liberal poison on Hillary.Net. A$$clown

if Hillery get in Im Movin to Canada...

The constitution also state that if the Governing power becomes too powerful and/or corrupt it is the citizens duty to overthrow it and replace it with a new one. At the same time the Government is too powerful as it is, but people are afraid to rise up. Im not against the constitution, however the government is a different story. I am a soldier and i Love my country, but i fear my Government.

Rambill....you better check your facts...no fully automactic weapons incidents???...LMAO The North Hollywood shootout in 1997 is just one of many that I know of...so you are wrong there. However I do agree with your contention that more guns in the hands of law abiding citizens make for less violent crime rates...thats a proven stat. If criminals are the only ones getting guns (they can get weapons on black market anytime, anywhere)there is no deterant to keep them from using them for crimes....unless they know everyone else around them is carrying a piece too

So I believe we need some basic regulations such as age, ( you don't want 5 year olds running around with guns)and maybe restricting the use of "automatic" weapons.....but some states go too far and make getting carrying permits too costly and time consuming.

One more time, noone is saying ban guns, it's saying regulate guns, if you're not a felon or not planning to use it for bad things then you should have no problem with the government having record of your gun. Funny, you act as if using a gun is the only way to protect freedom of speech and seperation of church & state, but there's plenty of more efficiant, legal ways to go about protecting those rights. Save that nonsense for somebody who didn't grow up on the streets. And btw, what does Hillary have to do with anything? Only dems I support are Biden & Kucinich. As far as the "proove it" statement, maybe you should read the posts I was replying to, are you gonna say that a public school in 1979 did in fact sanction guns into said school? Rambil said he brought an ak47 to show & tell, doesn't show & tell end before you get to middle school? Either way do you really believe him at his word that a public school would have allowed such things? Keep it real & learn to debate with some civility, guns might not kill people but having easier access sure helps;^]

True rambil, I took my Mossberg 410 and Savage 12 gauge double barrel to school in my junior year in 77 to refinish the stocks in woodshop. My best friend built a 50 caliber muzzel loader in machine shop. Times have changed...... can't even have a pocket knife in school nymore.

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well ...this thread is a perfect example of why I dont come
to JSH anymore...so long...

The right of the PEOPLE to KEEP AND BEAR ARMS
SHALL NOT
BE INFRINGED.
any questions?
if so, pull out a Blacks law dictonary and follow it thru word for word.

better look a little closer, the incident involved semi automatic firearms, not squirt guns.
...depends on the five year old i would say. I was lugging A well worn .22 bolt action around at the range way before then.

Turtlepoet you keep asking where in the constitution it states that guns cannot be regulated. You are correct that nowhere in the constitution does it state that guns can be regulated. Therefore since the constitution DOES NOT grant the government the power to regulate guns the government has no power or right to regulate them. The government has only those powers that are granted to it by the constitution not all power except what is forbid by the constitution.