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Thu 09/25/08 08:45 PM

For all you LIB partisans out there... your own hero Clinton says McCain did what he did in GOOD faith. So much for the lib lies & assumptions. Right? :wink: In fact, McCain wanted more townhall meetings with OBAMA. so much for being afraid...I think the only one who is afraid is Obama. Oh right...you can't be blamed for anything when you are a "do nothing." LOL

Bill Clinton: Don't 'Overly Parse' McCain Request to Delay Debate
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ABC News' Nitya Venkataraman Reports: Former President Bill Clinton defended Sen. John McCain's request to delay the first presidential debate, saying McCain did it in "good faith" and pushed organizers to reserve time for economy talk during the debate if the Friday plans move forward.

Appearing on Good Morning America Thursday, Clinton told ABC News' Chris Cuomo that McCain's push to postpone the debate would only be a good political move if both candidates agreed. McCain announced on Wednesday that he would "suspend" his presidential campaign to come to Washington to help negotiate a financial bailout bill


"We know he didn't do it because he's afraid because Sen. McCain wanted more debates," Clinton said, adding that he was "encouraged" by the joint statement from McCain and Sen. Barack Obama.

"You can put it off a few days the problem is it's hard to reschedule those things," Clinton said, "I presume he did that in good faith since I know he wanted -- I remember he asked for more debates to go all around the country and so I don't think we ought to overly parse that."

If the debate moves forward as planned for Friday night, Clinton says "they should be able to talk about this some of the debate because it is a security issue."

The former president thought Bush's address Wednesday night on the economic crisis had a "positive reaction".

"I thought it was the clearest statement of why we're in the fix we're in, at least what the nature of it is and why some national action is needed," Clinton said.

He said that both Democrats and Republicans "should move as quickly as they can" on the president's economic rescue plan but that both parties "want to know exactly how this $700 billion is going to be invested..to stabilize the system."

President Bush's bipartisan meeting on the economic crisis will take place at 4pm at the White House, both Obama and McCain will be in attendance.





Bill Clinton isn't running for President.

And his wife is still stumping for Obama.

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Thu 09/25/08 07:58 PM
McCain sticks his nose where it doesn't belong.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080926/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_s_gambit

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Thu 09/25/08 07:38 PM
They bailed before the shyt hit the fan.

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2008/09/25/ap5473204.html

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Tue 09/23/08 06:40 AM

so your saying obama would fire himself? cause he's done nothing but look out for himself since he's been in congress


He was talking about the Bush Administration.

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Tue 09/23/08 06:33 AM

And the Palin-McCain media stonewall continues...

"As of this writing, it has been 39 days and 22 hours since Sen. John McCain last held a news conference... it's been 24 days and 11 hours since his running mate, Sarah Palin, held one."

- The Washington Post

Looks like the "Straight Talk Express" is in one very long and dark tunnel.


The 'Straight Talk Express' has derailed.

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Tue 09/23/08 06:30 AM

OK so say you run a business and this business has trillions in assets, interest in every major market and your business is on the verge of bankruptcy. You have to Hire a new CEO and CFO. the resumes you get are as follows... Who would you hire?


CEO applicant A
- Occidental College, 2 years
- Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in International Relations
- Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude

CFO applicant B
- University of Delaware - B.A. in history and B.A. in political science
- Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

vs.

CEO applicant Y
- United States Naval Academy

CFO applicant Z
- Hawaii Pacific University, 1 semester
- North Idaho College, 1 year
- University of Idaho, 1 year
- Matanuska-Susitna College, 1 semester
- University of Idaho, 1.5 years - B.S. in Journalism


I wouldn't hire any of them.

I'd bring one of them on as an intern and if they prove that they can produce a profit for the corporation, then I'd hire them. glasses

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Tue 09/23/08 06:26 AM

He nose is so firmly implanted into Bush's ass, it would take a surgeon to extract it!
Edited by mnhiker on Mon 09/22/08 09:59 PM


hey braniac, this makes you believeable, huh?


by the way, it's 'his', not 'he'.




oops

I want him fired too, but not nobama, as he can stay where he is in the Congress.

Let him fire the SEC chief.

send him an e-mail.


I bet he won't listen unless you send him a check for $25,000.

oh, yeah, I forgot! the free lunch crowd doesn't support nobama : the guys at freddie and fannie do..

good thing they got bailed out before the election, huh? They are flush with cash now.shocked



nobama 2008.




Obama's plan makes a lot more sense:

"Now that this disaster has hit, John McCain is calling for the firing of the SEC commissioner. Well, here's what I say," Mr. Obama told the cheering crowd. "In 47 days, you can fire the whole trickle-down, on-your-own, look-the-other-way crowd in Washington who have led us down this disastrous path."

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08263/913377-176.stm

The Bush Administration has almost destroyed the economy,so why give the Republicans another 4 years?

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

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Mon 09/22/08 10:34 PM

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl


nice edit there.



kinda covers your tracks when commenting on intelligence, huh?


just saying.......

the title of your thread might just give people the wrong impression.

we wouldn't want that.:wink: laugh


From now on I know to quote you.


love that edit.


drinks


That doesn't excuse the fact that McCain didn't know that a President can't fire an SEC Chief.

Which means he should think before opening his big yap.

So should you.

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Mon 09/22/08 10:13 PM
Edited by mnhiker on Mon 09/22/08 10:15 PM

true.

BTW:wink:

The Fed Chairman is Bernanke.think



waving


McCain said he would fire Chris Cox, the SEC Chief.

Not the Fed Chairman.

The title might be wrong, but the initial post is correct.

'Fed Chairman' came up in my Google search.

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Mon 09/22/08 10:09 PM



:laughing: Get used to the Sarah Palin saga.:laughing: I have a feeling its gonna be going on for the next 4 to 8 years.:laughing: This is just the tip of the iceberg:laughing:
I'm glad to see you know who should win!!!!!!!!!!
:smile: I didnt say I think they SHOULD win but I just think thats who IS gonna win.:smile:


:smile: Its not about what I want. :smile: Im capable of reaching conclusions despite how I feel about a particular subject.:smile:


Maybe, if enough fundamentalist crazy soccer moms vote for McCain because they love Sarah Palin (she's one of us!)

Some still pissed off former Hillary supporters could vote for him as revenge against Obama.

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Mon 09/22/08 09:57 PM
Edited by mnhiker on Mon 09/22/08 09:59 PM


John McCain said that, if he were President, he would fire Chris Cox, the SEC Chief.

The only problem is:

No President is able to do this.

http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/18/mccain-confused-says-he%E2%80%99d-%E2%80%9Cfire%E2%80%9D-sec-chief-even-though-by-law-he-couldn%E2%80%99t/

Oops! slaphead
At least we know we'll have an intelligent leader if he gets Elected laugh


Intelligence doesn't always translate into common sense, or what's right for the American people as a whole.

Plus, he's a notorious flip-flopper.

He nose is so firmly implanted into Bush's ass, it would take a surgeon to extract it! laugh

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Mon 09/22/08 09:23 PM
Edited by mnhiker on Mon 09/22/08 09:23 PM
John McCain said that, if he were President, he would fire Chris Cox, the SEC Chief.

The only problem is:

No President is able to do this.

http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/18/mccain-confused-says-he%E2%80%99d-%E2%80%9Cfire%E2%80%9D-sec-chief-even-though-by-law-he-couldn%E2%80%99t/

Oops! slaphead

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Mon 09/22/08 09:04 PM

Since reagan we have been told government is the problem and not the solution. So were are these pundits now? can we tar and feather them? what effect will this massive bailout have on our futures? The media is strangely silent on this. Were is Lymbaugh or O'liely on this? these are the same clowns who grew rich preaching the evils of big government. We have been told over and over that universal healthcare is to expensive, yet we spent trillions in Iraq and now at least a trillion on this bailout, were is the outrage?


I wonder where they'll get the money from?

Another loan from China?

Hey, how about repealing the tax cuts for the wealthy?

There's an idea! :banana:

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Mon 09/22/08 08:49 PM

"In reflex tests of 46 political partisans, psychologists found that conservatives were more likely than liberals to be shocked by sudden threats.

Accompanying the physiological differences were deep differences on hot-button political issues: military expansion, the Iraq war, gun control, capital punishment, the Patriot act, warrantless searches, foreign aid, abortion rights, gay marriage, premarital sex and pornography."

http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/09/fearmongering-h.html

The neocons were also considerably slower than liberals... (OK,I made that part up...)


Of course they scare more easily.

The George Bush Jr. Administration and their brown-nosing sycophants at Faux News have been playing to these fears for over 7 years.

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Mon 09/22/08 08:39 PM
http://www.southsidepride.com/

Don't believe everything you see on TV.

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Mon 09/22/08 08:29 PM
And so it continues...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080923/ap_on_el_pr/palin_troopergate;_ylt=A9G_R3SzXNhIiK8A6xBh24cA

Excerpt:

'Palin has refused to participate in the Legislature's
investigation since becoming Sen. John McCain's running mate.'

Sarah Palin could become a serious liability to John McCain's campaign.

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Mon 09/22/08 08:17 PM
I know most of what I need to know and it is this:

The Republican Party is the party of the rich fat cats.

They care little about the poor or middle class and have tried to do everything to destroy the former.

They serve the oil barons, sheiks and anyone else that gives them loads of cash.

There is a lot more corruption and white collar criminal activity in the Republican Party.

Too bad a lot of these crimes aren't prosecuted because they own the legal system.

They are the agents primarily responsible for the financial mess the country is in today.

So remember that when you vote for President this November.

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Thu 09/18/08 12:34 AM

Exposed: McCain team includes 83 Wall Street lobbyists
John Byrne
Published: Wednesday September 17, 2008


As Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) rails against Wall Street while concurrently benefiting from its largesse, some journalists are getting tired.

David Corn -- an investigative reporter formerly with The Nation and currently reporting for Mother Jones -- has printed a list of 83 Wall Street lobbyists he says are working for or have bundled contributions for McCain. The Democratic National Committee has previously accused McCain of using 177 lobbyists either as campaign aides, advisers or fundraisers.

Corn notes that former Sen. Phil Gramm, the Arizona senator's onetime campaign chairman and economic adviser, slipped into law a provision that kept credit default swaps unregulated, dramatically kindling to the current financial fires.

"Of those 177 lobbyists, according to a Mother Jones review of Senate and House records, at least 83 have in recent years lobbied for the financial industry McCain now attacks," Corn writes. "These are high-paid influence-peddlers who have been working the corridors of the nation's capital to win favors and special treatment for investment banks, securities firms, hedge funds, accounting outfits, and insurance companies. Their clients have included AIG, the newest symbol of corporate excess; Lehman Brothers, which filed for bankruptcy on Monday sending the stock market into a tailspin; Merrill Lynch, which was bought out by Bank of America this week; and Washington Mutual, the banking giant that could be the next to fall.

"Among these 83 lobbyists are McCain's chief political adviser, Charlie Black (JP Morgan, Washington Mutual Bank, Freddie Mac, Mortgage Bankers Association of America); McCain's national finance co-chairman, Wayne Berman (AIG, Blackstone, Credit Suisse, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac); the campaign's congressional liaison, John Green (Carlyle Group, Citigroup, Icahn Associates, Fannie Mae); McCain's veep vetter, Arthur Culvahouse (Fannie Mae); and McCain's transition planning chief, William Timmons Sr. (Citigroup, Freddie Mac, Vanguard Group)."

Obama's anti-lobbyist rhetoric, meanwhile, has irked other reporters, among them Newsweek's Michael Isikoff. Isikoff noted that Obama's chief strategist, David Axelrod, worked for a firm that hoodwinked Illinois consumers by convincing them a California-style crises would befall them unless they increased electric rates.

Axelrod adamantly denied the charge. "I've never lobbied anybody in my life," he said. "I've never talked to any public official on behalf of a corporate client."

Obama also put James Johnson, the former CEO of Fannie Mae, on his vice presidential search committee team. Johnson resigned in June.

The full McCain list is printed below.

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Phil Anderson: American Council of Life Insurers, Aetna, AIG, New York Life, MassMutual, VISA

Rebecca Anderson: Aegon, American Council of Life Insurers, Cigna, Barclays, Credit Suisse First Boston, HSBC

Stanton Anderson: The Debt Exchange

David Beightol: Allstate, Amerigroup, Charles Schwab, HSBC

Rhonda Bentz: VISA

Wayne Berman: American Council of Life Insurers, AIG, Americhoice, Shinsei Bank, Blackstone, Carlyle Group, Broidy Capital Management, Credit Suisse Securities, Highstar Capital, VISA, Ameriquest Mortgage, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Fitch Ratings

Charlie Black: JP Morgan, Washington Mutual Bank, Freddie Mac, Mortgage Bankers Association of America, National Association of Mortgage Brokers

Judy Black: Colorado Credit Union League, Genworth Financial, Bay Harbour Management, Merrill Lynch

Kirk Blalock: Credit Union National Association, Financial Executives International, American Insurance Association, Mutual of Omaha, Zurich Financial Service Group, Fannie Mae, Federal Home Loan Bank of San Francisco

Carlos Bonilla: Financial Services Roundtable, Freddie Mac

Christine Burgeson: Citigroup

Mark Buse: Freddie Mac, Goldman Sachs, Manufacturers Life Insurance Company

Nicholas Calio: Citigroup, Managed Fund Association, Fannie Mae, Merrill Lynch, The Investment Company Institute, TIAA-CRE, Securities Industry and Financial Markets Association

Ben Nighthorse Campbell: Amscot Financial Corporation, Community Financial Services Association, Fidelity National Financial

Andrew Cantor: American Insurance Association, Merrill Lynch

Alberto Cardenas: Fannie Mae

James Courter: Goldman Sachs, Donaldson Lufkin & Jenrette, Investment Company Institute, Merrill Lynch

David Crane: Financial Services Roundtable, PriceWaterhouseCoopers, Deloitte & Touche, KPMG, Ernst & Young, Bank of America, Association of Corporate Credit Unions, Freddie Mac

Dan Crippen: Merrill Lynch, National Multi-Housing Council

Arthur Culvahouse: Fannie Mae

Bryan Cunningham: Arch Capital Group

Alfonse D'Amato: AIG, Freddie Mac

Doug Davenport: Federal Home Loan Bank of San Francisco, Goldman Sachs, VISA

Ashley Davis: Prudential Financial, American Financial Group, American Premier Underwriters, Great American Insurance Company

Mimi Dawson: MassMutual

Melissa Edwards: Freddie Mac, National Association of Real Estate Investment Trusts, Access to Capital Coalition

Chris Fidler: American Bankers Association, Milcom Venture Partners, National Association Real Estate Investment Trusts

Samuel Geduldig: American Bankers Association, American Institute of CPAs, America Gains, Berkshire Hathaway, Consumer Bankers Association, Ernst & Young, Financial Services Roundtable, Investment Company Institute, PriceWaterhouseCoopers, Prudential Financial, Sovereign Investment Council, Fidelity Investments, FMR Corp.

Benjamin Ginsberg: Massachusetts Mutual Life Insurance, AIG Technical Services

David Girard-Dicarlo: American Financial Group, American Premier Underwriters

Juleanna Glover Weiss: RJI Capital, American Institute of CPAs, BNP Paribas, Ernst & Young, PriceWaterhouseCoopers

Slade Gorton: Allstate Insurance, Hannan Armstrong Capital

Phil Gramm: UBS Americas

John Green: Laredo National Bank, Alternative Investment Management Association, AIG, Blackstone Group, Carlyle Group, Citigroup, Credit Suisse Group, Fannie Mae, Icahn Associates, FMR Corp., AFLAC, VISA

Janet Grissom: American Institute of CPAs, NYSE, Merrill Lynch

Kristen Gullott: San Diego Credit Union

Kent Hance: Stanford Financial Group, Municipal Capital Markets Group, Inc.

Vicki Hart: American Financial Services Association, Citigroup, Investment Company Institute, Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch, New York Stock Exchange, VISA, Carlyle Group, Credit Suisse, Federal Home Loan Bank of Indianapolis, Goldman Sachs, National Association of Government Guaranteed Lenders, Stanford Group, Lloyd's of London, National City Corp.

Richard Hohlt: Capmark Financial Group, Fannie Mae, JP Morgan Chase and Co., Student Loan Marketing Association, Washington Mutual, Guaranty Bank & Trust, Peachtree Settlement Funding, Dime Savings Bank of New York

Gaylord Hughey: Heartland Security Insurance Group

Kate Hull: Credit Union National Association, Fannie Mae, Federal Home Loan Bank of San Francisco, Zurich Financial Services, American Insurance Association, Financial Executives International

James Hyland: American Insurance Association, Seattle Home Loan Bank, Self Help Credit Union, National Association of Bankruptcy Trustees, Merrill Lynch, Mortgage Investors Corp., Federal Home Loan Bank of Indianapolis, Freddie Mac, New York Stock Exchange, Citigroup, VISA

Aleix Jarvis: Credit Union National Association, Fannie Mae, Federal Home Loan Bank of San Francisco, Financial Executives International, Mutual of Omaha, American Insurance Association, Zurich Financial Services

Greg Jenner: American Council of Life Insurers, JG Wentworth, UBS, VISA, PriceWaterhouseCoopers

Frank Keating: American Council of Life Insurers

Steven Kuykendall: California Bankers Association

William Lesher: Chicago Mercantile Exchange, Commerce Ventures, Rabobank International

Thomas Loeffler: Citigroup, Fannie Mae, Investment Company Institute, World Savings and Loan Association, United Services Automobile Association (USAA)

Kelly Lugar: RJI Capital Strategies

Peter Madigan: Arthur Andersen, Bank of New York, Broadridge Securities Processing, Charles Schwab, Deloitte and Touche, Goldman Sachs, International Employee Stock Option Coalition, Mastercard, NYSE, Fannie Mae, Merrill Lynch, PNC Bank

Mary Mann: MassMutual

Paul Martino: Morgan Stanley, Baker Tilly

Jana McKeag: Venture Catalyst

Alison McSlarrow: Fannie Mae, Hartford

Mike Meece: Georgetown Partners

David Metzner: Ernst & Young, Harbinger Capital Investments, Prudential, Public Financial Management, Western Union

Susan Molinari: Freddie Mac, American Land Title Association, Association of Consumer Credit Unions, Beacon Capital Partners, College Loan Corp, Coventry First, E-Trade, Financial Services Roundtable, Rent-A-Center

John Moran: Cerberus Capital Management, American Council of Life Insurers, Accenture

John Napier: Freddie Mac

Susan Nelson: AIG, San Antonio Credit Union

Paul Otellini: Ernst & Young, Financial Services Forum

Steve Perry: Charles Schwab, Hoover Partners, HSBC, National Stock Exchange

Nancy Pfotenhauer: American Land Title Association, Mortgage Bankers Association

Elise Pickering-Finley: Credit Suisse, DE Shaw, Hartford Financial Services, Research In Motion, Retail Industry Lenders Association, URL Mutual

James Pitts: Advanced Association for Life Underwriting, AETNA, American Council of Life Insurers, AIG, Council of Insurance Agents and Brokers, Debt Advisory International, Financial Services Coordinating Council, GE Financial Assurance, Hartford Life, Jefferson Pilot Financial, Kenwood Investments, MassMutual, Mutual of Omaha, New York Life, UNUM Provident, VISA, PMI Group

Tim Powers: AP Capital, Genworth Financial, Retail Industry Lenders Association, E-LOAN, General Electric Mortgage Insurance

Walter Price: Wachovia

Sloan Rappoport: Friedman, Billings, Ramsey Group, Inc. (FBR), Trafelet Delta Funds

Hans Rickhoff: Capital One, Investment Company Institute, United Services Automobile Association (USAA)

Kathleen Shanahan: New York Stock Exchange

Andrew Shore: Accenture, Retail Industry Lenders Association, Barclays, Bond Market Association, Credit Suisse, TPG Capital

Katie Stahl: Alliance for Investment Transparency, Ares Management, Fairfax Financial Holdings, Uhlmann Financial Group

Milly Stanges: TIAA-CREF

Aquiles Suarez: Fannie Mae

Don Sundquist: Freddie Mac, The Hartford

Peter Terpeluk: JP Morgan Chase, Ernst & Young, Prudential

Fred Thompson: Equitas

Jeri Thompson: American Insurance Association

John Timmons: National Association of Federal Credit Unions

William Timmons Sr.: American Council of Life Insurers, Citigroup, Dun & Bradstreet, Freddie Mac, Vanguard Group

Vin Weber: Agstar Financial Services, AKT Investment Corp., American Institute of CPAs, Ernst & Young, Freddie Mac, Louis Dreyfus Corp, PriceWaterhouseCoopers

Jeffery Weiss: JP Morgan

Tony Williams: Russell Investment Group, American Life Inc., Northwestern Mutual
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Dang, that's a heckuva list... now can we expect one person in the so called "liberal" media to ask him about this?

I doubt it.


Great information!

It's too bad that enough people either don't know about this or seem to care!

Perhaps they're caught up in the Spin Zone!

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Thu 09/18/08 12:24 AM
Edited by mnhiker on Thu 09/18/08 12:25 AM

mccain/palin 2008

no other option

thank you, and have a nice day


There are always options.

Like, anyone but.

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Thu 09/18/08 12:21 AM
Dry, no sesame seeds, no bun, no lettuce, tomato or sauce.

Processed soy, no meat.

In fact, no real substance at all!

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