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Cracker Barrel Tragedy
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I meant the wife and daughter getting killed not the dad lol. I understand. I think death is always tragic,,,,when its violent like that,,,, |
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Black neighborHOODs
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the questions are asked repeatedly
there is just not much done to address the answers,,,,, |
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as Lady said,, will the law in this case decide that people can pick fights and if they are losing bad enough than KILL their victim? Basically what you are saying is this: Trayvon wouldn't have committed a crime if he beat Zimmerman to death. Even if Zimmerman started a fist fight, that doesn't mean he lost his right to defend himself against murder. If Trayvon were trying to kill him, then Zimmerman had the legal right to defend himself with lethal force. If that right didn't exist, then every bar fight would end with one person dead and nobody prosecuted. The "He started it!" defense. I dont know, there was a gun involved. HAd he got the gun away and PRECEDED to kill Zimmerman,, that would have probably been excessive force. Had he killed ZIMMERMAN (With his hands) while Zimmerman was in possession/reaching for a gun,,,probably not so much IF the lethal right to defend against killing is considered, than it is necessarily true it is a right that on its face BOTH PARTIES HAD so what did seperate them, wasnt whether they had a right on its face, but if they had the right with aggravating factors such as who ENGAGED in the fight and it could be interpreted even, that if its a MUTUAL Fight, whomever ends up killing the other will be at fault,,, the aggravating factors weigh in,,,, |
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my point is we can find dozens of legal interpretations of the 'self defense' defense, its limitations,,,etc,,,,
Laws are broad to accommodate an infinity of situations. Make them too specific they miss unintended situations. as opposed to one UNIFORM and clear one,,,so it really will be up to lawyers to present a case,,, Innocent until proven guilty is the point. The evidence no matter what the law says is always the determining factor. and whether self defense because of danger will be good enough or whether self defense because of danger brought on by a defendant will be a limitation that voids the defense,,, There are MANY ways in which he can be held legally responsible for Martins death (Because of the law, NOT despite it), the very flexibility of the law is what allows the prosecutors to have charged him in the first place. Your comments are inane. Im in good company ![]() |
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my point is we can find dozens of legal interpretations of the 'self defense' defense, its limitations,,,etc,,,,
as opposed to one UNIFORM and clear one,,,so it really will be up to lawyers to present a case,,, and whether self defense because of danger will be good enough or whether self defense because of danger brought on by a defendant will be a limitation that voids the defense,,, |
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I think if laws were really that 'clear' we wouldnt need juries,,,
![]() it will be up to the twelve in the box and the case that is presented,,, from a self defense sight ""When there is mutual combat upon a sudden quarrel, both parties are the aggressors, and if in the fight one is killed it will be manslaughter at least." – 16th Century English Self Defense Law - Ninety percent of all "fights" are started over something stupid. If the court feels your actions were unwarranted or avoidable, your defense of self-defense will fail. Especially, if those actions result in deadly force. " |
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unethical, irresponsible... words Id use to describe Zimmermans actions that night,,,,,,, Did you watch the video? It's really quite interesting. Alan Dershowitz explains that even if Zimmerman started the conflict, he still has a right to self defense. The affidavit of probable cause has no new information, it doesn't fairly present the scenario, which is legally required. He believes that the DA overcharged Zimmerman, Zimmerman will be acquitted and then the DA will act outraged. It's all about her getting re-elected, not about finding justice. we will see,,,, as Lady said,, will the law in this case decide that people can pick fights and if they are losing bad enough than KILL their victim? creates a whole new paradise for bullies,,, sounds flaky to me,,, but people might justify it,,,,, |
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unethical, irresponsible...
words Id use to describe Zimmermans actions that night,,,,,,, |
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Topic:
Cracker Barrel Tragedy
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tragedy
I suspect shootings will be the popular headline for a few weeks. Sounds like a justified case though, if the facts are true. |
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awesome pic! breathtaking thanx, I think so too,,,and as beautiful outside as in,,,not flaky or vain at all,,,,just love her |
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Topic:
Black neighborHOODs
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Topic:
Black neighborHOODs
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for alle
this is a short list Im sure, but Id research some of the areas listed to get some answers about the most common stereotypes about 'black neighborhoods' I think you will find them pretty diverse once you look for yourself,,,, |
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Topic:
Black neighborHOODs
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in some places
in others its neighbors in others its the nation of islam in others its retired military,,, |
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and my niece,, watch out for her in theater,, she is gonna be HUGE...
an amazing talent ![]() |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Thu 04/12/12 10:29 PM
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Trayvon's mother said she thinks her son's death was an accident. That precludes Murder 2. The jury will most likely agree with her and find him innocent. not exactly what she said, but how people choose to paraphrase it,,, her statement was ""I believe it was an accident," Fulton said. "I believe it got out of control and he couldn't turn the clock back." " exactly what I said,, his original intent was not to kill I believe his original intent was to harass and detain but it SPIRALED into a death instead which makes him culpable to be charged as he had The original intent was to stop a hoodlum criminal. to stop someone 'suspicious' because they were walking at night while looking at houses by someone who was watching someone walking at night from his car and following someone walking at night on foot,,,, a night watchmen supposedly who had to get out to figure out the STREET he was on,,,, compared to someone newly arriving who had to figure out which way he needed to go,,, pot calling the kettle,, 'suspicious' |
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what! the square jaw, the clean but not baby smooth shave, the broad shoulders,,
that is MY TYPE,,, ![]() ![]() |
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disgusting pyscho,,,, lol.. i was wondering what you would say about this...it sounds so far off, it just couldn't really be true... could it? its not that it 'couldnt' be true,,its that the guys LIVING has evolved around deceiving people his whole life so its 'most likely' another lie,,, |
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Topic:
Black neighborHOODs
Edited by
msharmony
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Thu 04/12/12 09:08 PM
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Okay, we can't sit here and pretend that white people ever elected a crack head as mayor after he was caught with drugs and prostitutes. White folks vote for some lousy candidates (like Obama), but I don't know that they have ever voted en mass for a criminal who was caught on tape. I Think white folks tend to trust authorities and their 'evidence' more and black folks probably tend to believe authorities are capable of fabricating, setting up, and outright lying I also think people tend to prioritize 'crimes' based upon their personal experiences and not any true measure of 'harm' there have been plenty of CORRUPT white politicians, whether their 'crime' was a crack pipe or not |
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disgusting pyscho,,,,
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If Zimmerman WAS the aggressor, it does change things. Should be interesting to see how it all plays out. thank you, simplified and logical,,,, |
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