the greatest muscle is between our ears
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favorite actress,, my niece Nicole belit because she is amazingly talented favorite actor,,,Ben Affleck, because he looks every bit of a man,,,lol and I like his style and his theatrical taste in scripts,,,as well as his delivery How long has your niece been an actress or started her acting career since she was six, but she does theater and modeling |
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I Think availability increases temptations
in countries where fewer temptations are available, or promoted, people are probably succumbing to them less often in America, few things are taboo anymore, and everything is openly available and promoted on some level |
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favorite actress,, my niece Nicole belit because she is amazingly talented
favorite actor,,,Ben Affleck, because he looks every bit of a man,,,lol and I like his style and his theatrical taste in scripts,,,as well as his delivery |
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Tracy Martin had been looking for his son Trayvon since the night before. He went to bed figuring the teen must have gone to the movies and turned off his phone. When Trayvon still wasn't home in the morning, Martin called the police. After a flurry of phone calls back and forth, an officer told him a police unit was on the way. "So I went outside waiting for Trayvon to show up," Martin said. Instead of one squad car with his son in the backseat, three vehicles pulled up: a police cruiser, an unmarked sedan and another official-looking car. Martin would discover the third car belonged to a chaplain. It was not yet 8 in the morning, barely 12 hours since the shooting that took place about 100 yards away, and Martin was still unaware of the fate of his son http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/03/us-usa-florida-shooting-trayvon-idUSBRE8320UK20120403 Although Martin had identified his son to police on Monday, February 27, and asked Serino the next day to issue police clearance for releasing the body, not until Wednesday was a funeral director permitted to drive it back to South Florida. http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/03/us-usa-florida-shooting-trayvon-idUSBRE8320UK20120403 |
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Did this. 1st) his body sat in the morgue for over 3 day before his so-called caring family claimed it !! 2nd) his mother has trade marked 'Dead Thugs' name to make a buck off of his death .... What a family!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() wow , what a tasteless lie,,,, |
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No the gun wasn't the problem.......a person in a place doing something that seems suspicious is a problem......carrying the gun in a peaceful situation is a problem(which wasn't the case)......following someone you were told not to for safety reasons is a problem......one attacking another is a problem.....I do not see where the gun did anything wrong in this situation.....did it load itself? did it pull its own trigger.....a gun is an inanimate object until an individual activates it......he protected himself from an attack....its very sad he was attacked....but let us think that a person would be dead in this situation period even if he hadn't had the gun and that would be a shame too......there are all sorts of problems with this story.......bet it wouldn't have as much media attention if Zimmerman was dead from head wounds from Treyvon beating him to death now would it?? nope, hand to hand gives people a bit more of a chance, and it would be a clearer case of 'excessive' force because an expectation of retreat would be reasonable,,,, a gun in unstable hands is as unwise as a gun in untrained hands So what you are saying here is that I am wrong you are right.........and my way of thinking is misconstrued....glad to know where you are coming from just for future reference because I guess its the guns fault........do you know that his hands were untrained?? Do you say hand to hand is always even and justified......so someone without a chance at hand to hand has no right to protect themselves with weaponry?? I see.......................shaking head as walks away in that direction ----------------> the post didnt reference you or being 'wrong' the post was my opinion just as all posts here are the posters opinion I know that zimmerman was UNSTABLE, from his past history,,,in terms of ability to CONTROL HIMSELF PHYSICALLY hand to hand is MORE even than hand to gun,, there is a FAIR chance to disengage and RUN Away,, than there is from a bullet,,, someone who has a chance with HAND to HAND COULD BE.,..using excessive force if they use a bullet instead depending upon circumstances,,,yes Treyvon wasn't so stable himself and showed ganglike attitude and actions. Had been kicked out of school for such attitude and behaviorial actions. He was no angel in this situation......and Zimmerman didn't deserve to be attacked either. And if Zimmerman had been beaten to death and hadn't had the weapon......you wouldn't be hearing one thing about it on the media at all.......except it would probably be reported as a gang related incident..... police act 'ganglike' thats little to do with this though what VIOLENT behavior was he kicked out for? do you have the link to the claim at all last I checked, he was TARDY excessively, he sprayed GRAFFITI< and he was caught with a marijuana baggy none of those are particularly aggressive or violent behaviors,,, if ZIMMERMAN a grown man followed the boy in a car and on foot and then CONFRONTED him in a threatening manner,, he wasnt ATTACKED< he put someone in a position to feel they werent free to retreat and must instead defend themself without the gun, the boy would not have had any reason to not retreat once he was no longer being beaten by Zimmerman,,,, and if they couldnt prove this sole boy was in a gang, it wouldnt be 'gang related', but it probably would have made a claim of self defense more viable,,, I never said he was violent in school, but witnesses did see him attacking Zimmerman and being violent. That is a violent behavior......who knows what his after school activities included......was not attacking another human being a violent act.....and that was the third time he had been kicked out of school for drugs......why is he bringing drugs into the school what's the point.....he had to try and bash a person's head in that is what I call a ganglike activity... I think you misread something he was kicked out three times, one for excessive tardiness, one for graffiti, and one for having a marijuana 'baggy' it wasnt THREE Times for drugs,,, defending yourself from a stalker is not what I think of as an attack,,,its more along the lines of self defense,,,, he had to try to get a GUN Away from a stalker who confronted him after following him suspiciously thats what I call justified defense of self,,, Zimmerman never attacked him he did follow him since when does a person have a right to attack someone that has not laid one hand on them or even tried to......there was no reason for Treyvon to have placed his hands on Mr. Zimmerman at all....period.... Mr. Zimmerman did not lay his hands on Treyvon at all to attack Treyvon.....he defended himself from an attack.....Treyvon could not have asked why he was following him or communicated with him without laying his hands on another......with words it may have ended quietly rather than they way it did......there were many unwise choices made here..... Besides he was 17....he knew better than to brings drugs into school even once......he should have gone to jail under the zero tolerance and having drugs possessed within proximity of a school zone. that has yet to be decided,, he CLAIMS not to have laid a hand on him since when does someone have a right to follow somoene around and then demand answers from them about what THEY are doing? the reason Treyvon may have had to put his HANDS on ZImmerman was maybe believing there was no reason for a grown man to be following him around at night, even to the point of following him between houses IF that same determined person felt entitled (as he has in the past)to put HIS hands on Treyvon everyone keeps ignoring that Treyvon was the one that we KNOW tried to avoid ZImmerman in some way,, we do not know ZIMMERMAN ever did the same,,,, the offense at school had nothing to do with this, but IM sure if they had actually HAD enough marijuana to charge him they would, as it stood they only found what they THOUGHT was marijuana 'residue',,,, it would be very easy for Treyvon to have tired from his obligation to avoid mr Zimmerman (an obligation Zimmerman for some reason wasnt seen as having towards TREYVON), to merely turn around and ask him why he was following him (being sure thats what was happening once Treyvon had changed directions and ran away to lose him but turned around and STILL Saw him behind him) it would be very easy for Mr Zimmerman, who in the past has asserted his weight physically against others and apparently been able to get away with before,,,,to feel entitled to QUESTION Trayvon instead of explaining who he was or asking in an unintimidating manner it would be VERY easy for Mr Zimmerman to a) reach for the boy to make sure he didnt get away b) reach for his phone to call police c) reach for his gun to try to detain the boy and very easy for this 17 year old , who has no reason why a grown man keeps following him to feel like this was an act of aggression and push him away,,beginning a fight and then for that fight to turn into a fight for life once a GUN Was exposed,,, all that seems VERY easy to me easier than them both changing their frame of mind and switching roles out of the blue,,,,, |
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Continuing with the Trayvon/Zimmerman articles...have you heard that George Zimmerman is setting up a website for people to send money to Paypal to help pay for his defense? What are your thoughts on this? I'm a little torn between it because of the edited/misrepresented info out there, I don't really know what happened. Who really knows what happened that night, right? I see no issue with his supporters helping to support his family, if thats what they so choose. I understand he probably wont be able to work for a while and dont know if his wife earns enough or if the judge will allow his family to live with/off of him,,,, |
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Wow!! I found myself really caught up in this BS. I just remembered. Mexicans been killing negros and visa-versa in LA for a few years now. Why am I so caught up in every day soaps. I do a double ![]() ![]() If, the howlers get to and waste Zimmerman, it will be just another day at the zoo. I bet some jacka$$ will really believe the howlers will pay up for wasting a Mexican. Hey Howlers. Mexicans ain't whitey. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() isnt that like saying americans arent black? nationality defines race now?.... What Mexicans you ever know to have slaves? ![]() ![]() ![]() is having slaves how race is now defined? Slavery is against the law in all 57 states. ![]() I guesss thats a no then,,lol I guess Barry has all 'his worshipers' believing there are 57 states. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() nope, but many of his supporters have the common sense to recognize misspeaking from genuine ignorance,,,,, |
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No the gun wasn't the problem.......a person in a place doing something that seems suspicious is a problem......carrying the gun in a peaceful situation is a problem(which wasn't the case)......following someone you were told not to for safety reasons is a problem......one attacking another is a problem.....I do not see where the gun did anything wrong in this situation.....did it load itself? did it pull its own trigger.....a gun is an inanimate object until an individual activates it......he protected himself from an attack....its very sad he was attacked....but let us think that a person would be dead in this situation period even if he hadn't had the gun and that would be a shame too......there are all sorts of problems with this story.......bet it wouldn't have as much media attention if Zimmerman was dead from head wounds from Treyvon beating him to death now would it?? nope, hand to hand gives people a bit more of a chance, and it would be a clearer case of 'excessive' force because an expectation of retreat would be reasonable,,,, a gun in unstable hands is as unwise as a gun in untrained hands So what you are saying here is that I am wrong you are right.........and my way of thinking is misconstrued....glad to know where you are coming from just for future reference because I guess its the guns fault........do you know that his hands were untrained?? Do you say hand to hand is always even and justified......so someone without a chance at hand to hand has no right to protect themselves with weaponry?? I see.......................shaking head as walks away in that direction ----------------> the post didnt reference you or being 'wrong' the post was my opinion just as all posts here are the posters opinion I know that zimmerman was UNSTABLE, from his past history,,,in terms of ability to CONTROL HIMSELF PHYSICALLY hand to hand is MORE even than hand to gun,, there is a FAIR chance to disengage and RUN Away,, than there is from a bullet,,, someone who has a chance with HAND to HAND COULD BE.,..using excessive force if they use a bullet instead depending upon circumstances,,,yes Treyvon wasn't so stable himself and showed ganglike attitude and actions. Had been kicked out of school for such attitude and behaviorial actions. He was no angel in this situation......and Zimmerman didn't deserve to be attacked either. And if Zimmerman had been beaten to death and hadn't had the weapon......you wouldn't be hearing one thing about it on the media at all.......except it would probably be reported as a gang related incident..... police act 'ganglike' thats little to do with this though what VIOLENT behavior was he kicked out for? do you have the link to the claim at all last I checked, he was TARDY excessively, he sprayed GRAFFITI< and he was caught with a marijuana baggy none of those are particularly aggressive or violent behaviors,,, if ZIMMERMAN a grown man followed the boy in a car and on foot and then CONFRONTED him in a threatening manner,, he wasnt ATTACKED< he put someone in a position to feel they werent free to retreat and must instead defend themself without the gun, the boy would not have had any reason to not retreat once he was no longer being beaten by Zimmerman,,,, and if they couldnt prove this sole boy was in a gang, it wouldnt be 'gang related', but it probably would have made a claim of self defense more viable,,, I never said he was violent in school, but witnesses did see him attacking Zimmerman and being violent. That is a violent behavior......who knows what his after school activities included......was not attacking another human being a violent act.....and that was the third time he had been kicked out of school for drugs......why is he bringing drugs into the school what's the point.....he had to try and bash a person's head in that is what I call a ganglike activity... I think you misread something he was kicked out three times, one for excessive tardiness, one for graffiti, and one for having a marijuana 'baggy' it wasnt THREE Times for drugs,,, defending yourself from a stalker is not what I think of as an attack,,,its more along the lines of self defense,,,, he had to try to get a GUN Away from a stalker who confronted him after following him suspiciously thats what I call justified defense of self,,, |
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Wow!! I found myself really caught up in this BS. I just remembered. Mexicans been killing negros and visa-versa in LA for a few years now. Why am I so caught up in every day soaps. I do a double ![]() ![]() If, the howlers get to and waste Zimmerman, it will be just another day at the zoo. I bet some jacka$$ will really believe the howlers will pay up for wasting a Mexican. Hey Howlers. Mexicans ain't whitey. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() isnt that like saying americans arent black? nationality defines race now?.... What Mexicans you ever know to have slaves? ![]() ![]() ![]() is having slaves how race is now defined? Slavery is against the law in all 57 states. ![]() I guesss thats a no then,,lol |
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Wow!! I found myself really caught up in this BS. I just remembered. Mexicans been killing negros and visa-versa in LA for a few years now. Why am I so caught up in every day soaps. I do a double ![]() ![]() If, the howlers get to and waste Zimmerman, it will be just another day at the zoo. I bet some jacka$$ will really believe the howlers will pay up for wasting a Mexican. Hey Howlers. Mexicans ain't whitey. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() isnt that like saying americans arent black? nationality defines race now?.... What Mexicans you ever know to have slaves? ![]() ![]() ![]() is having slaves how race is now defined? |
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Edited by
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No the gun wasn't the problem.......a person in a place doing something that seems suspicious is a problem......carrying the gun in a peaceful situation is a problem(which wasn't the case)......following someone you were told not to for safety reasons is a problem......one attacking another is a problem.....I do not see where the gun did anything wrong in this situation.....did it load itself? did it pull its own trigger.....a gun is an inanimate object until an individual activates it......he protected himself from an attack....its very sad he was attacked....but let us think that a person would be dead in this situation period even if he hadn't had the gun and that would be a shame too......there are all sorts of problems with this story.......bet it wouldn't have as much media attention if Zimmerman was dead from head wounds from Treyvon beating him to death now would it?? nope, hand to hand gives people a bit more of a chance, and it would be a clearer case of 'excessive' force because an expectation of retreat would be reasonable,,,, a gun in unstable hands is as unwise as a gun in untrained hands So what you are saying here is that I am wrong you are right.........and my way of thinking is misconstrued....glad to know where you are coming from just for future reference because I guess its the guns fault........do you know that his hands were untrained?? Do you say hand to hand is always even and justified......so someone without a chance at hand to hand has no right to protect themselves with weaponry?? I see.......................shaking head as walks away in that direction ----------------> the post didnt reference you or being 'wrong' the post was my opinion just as all posts here are the posters opinion I know that zimmerman was UNSTABLE, from his past history,,,in terms of ability to CONTROL HIMSELF PHYSICALLY hand to hand is MORE even than hand to gun,, there is a FAIR chance to disengage and RUN Away,, than there is from a bullet,,, someone who has a chance with HAND to HAND COULD BE.,..using excessive force if they use a bullet instead depending upon circumstances,,,yes Treyvon wasn't so stable himself and showed ganglike attitude and actions. Had been kicked out of school for such attitude and behaviorial actions. He was no angel in this situation......and Zimmerman didn't deserve to be attacked either. And if Zimmerman had been beaten to death and hadn't had the weapon......you wouldn't be hearing one thing about it on the media at all.......except it would probably be reported as a gang related incident..... police act 'ganglike' thats little to do with this though what VIOLENT behavior was he kicked out for? do you have the link to the claim at all last I checked, he was TARDY excessively, he sprayed GRAFFITI< and he was caught with a marijuana baggy none of those are particularly aggressive or violent behaviors,,, if ZIMMERMAN a grown man followed the boy in a car and on foot and then CONFRONTED him in a threatening manner,, he wasnt ATTACKED< he put someone in a position to feel they werent free to retreat and must instead defend themself without the gun, the boy would not have had any reason to not retreat once he was no longer being beaten by Zimmerman,,,, and if they couldnt prove this sole boy was in a gang, it wouldnt be 'gang related', but it probably would have made a claim of self defense more viable,,, |
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Wow!! I found myself really caught up in this BS. I just remembered. Mexicans been killing negros and visa-versa in LA for a few years now. Why am I so caught up in every day soaps. I do a double ![]() ![]() If, the howlers get to and waste Zimmerman, it will be just another day at the zoo. I bet some jacka$$ will really believe the howlers will pay up for wasting a Mexican. Hey Howlers. Mexicans ain't whitey. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() isnt that like saying americans arent black? nationality defines race now?.... |
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Like I said in another tread. Zimmerman wants to be charged with something. He asked to be. Otherwise, Law Enforcement can't offer him protection from the howlers who have already convicted him. I dont blame him,, I would want the same. But, just like in their excuse to not arrest before,, they have to do their 'job' and complete an investigation,,, |
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The poor man can't get justice. He needs protection from the howler pu$$ie Panthers. He has asked for charges and the prosecutor won't charge him with anything. Charges would allow the police to protect him from the gang of white-hating, murderous, howler panthers. Dead or alive. My feeling is, Liberals here would love to see the howlers murder him even though he acted in self defense. So sad, this racist mentality. that is a sad reality for some people I actually am concerned for his safety at this point as well and hope noone will further diminish Treyvon Martins life by repeating the violence,,,,, but I still think he should be charged and the case should go to court I dont wish him to continue escalating his behavior because he has been continuously protected and excused for his actions,,, It took 2 years to arrest Ramsey for his daughters murder only to be released without charges.... Do you want them to create one for Zim? After looking at the evidence, listening to witness reports and even talking to the boys father who says the screams for help are NOT his son's, they have NOTHING to charge him with except for discharging a firearm....but then there is the "stand your ground" issue, and he was neighborhood watch and lisenced to carry.... Sounds to me like someone chose the wrong fight to get into, and paid dearly for it.....sad, very sad. yes, I just think the one who 'chose' was the one who should be charged now that the one trying to 'avoid' is dead... |
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I am so pissed off at the media for blowing this out of proportion and lying and doctoring evidence. They for one deserve criminal charges. Secondly people on neighborhood watches are supposed to be trained by police what they can and cannot do. I am pretty sure Zimmerman received no such training. One big Question is why Treyvon didn't call the police himself. He had a cell phone. He could have said, "Hey, I am being followed." Next the police response was so WRONG! They began to handle this like Firemen and it took a little time for them to get their act together. I feel this was a perfect storm of stupidity that led to a tragic misunderstanding. But some things many choose to overlook, Treyvon was no saint. There is a chance he tried to get all Macho on someone and he may have tried to handle things on his own. That cost him if he made the decision to try to be the man in this situation. If I had a gun following someone who was acting suspicious and that someone punched me chances are I would shoot them and unload the entire magazine into them. But I know all I am allowed to do is follow and observe and avoid contact if at all possible. All I am there for is to make sure the police know what they are getting into and let them do their job UNLESS LIFE IS INDEED ON THE LINE. Now all the parents want if revenge even if the facts do come out against them. It will be like Rodney King all over again and those Ghetto Trolls the Reverend Al Sharpton and the Reverend Jessie Jackson are spewing their hate speak and whipping the black community up into a frenzy. No outreach to protect others from this mistake happening again. No trying to make the community a better place by trying to resolve this issue properly. Just two racist priests, a hoard of Attorneys, and a lot of hate. Yep, this is going to prevent more stupidity from happening, maybe in backwards land. Still a good point. I Am sure, in this day and age there is plenty of hateful rhetoric,, but that is far from the assumption that 'all' parents want 'revenge' or that no outreach is being done or that its about hate its going to keep a spotlight on something that may have just ended up in a buried child and a 'big deal' type of reaction from the only ones who would have had the knowledge of it happening.... and it wont stop stupidity, not doing it wouldnt stop stupidity either this situation was stupidity from the moment the grown man with a gun got out his car to follow a young man trying to 'get away' from him,,,, or even further back, when a grown man who had a history of TWO domestic abuse charges, ONE assault on a cop, and ONE termination of employment for over aggressiveness was permitted to carry a gun and be a 'watchman' |
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The poor man can't get justice. He needs protection from the howler pu$$ie Panthers. He has asked for charges and the prosecutor won't charge him with anything. Charges would allow the police to protect him from the gang of white-hating, murderous, howler panthers. Dead or alive. My feeling is, Liberals here would love to see the howlers murder him even though he acted in self defense. So sad, this racist mentality. that is a sad reality for some people I actually am concerned for his safety at this point as well and hope noone will further diminish Treyvon Martins life by repeating the violence,,,,, but I still think he should be charged and the case should go to court I dont wish him to continue escalating his behavior because he has been continuously protected and excused for his actions,,, |
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By any chance do you understand that some people have morals and ethics? nudity is immoral? o.O forgive me father, for i have sinned. public nudity is questionably immoral,, yes by religious standards which require some humility and coverage from others or by patriotic standards which respects the laws that make public nutidy illegal,, private nudity,, go for it,,, |
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All I get out of this current discussion is that the actual details of the case only matter when the guy with the gun is black. For Zimmerman, we don't need any details, other than the fact that he's white. maybe for you the details I have are that he followed the boy in a car and on foot, that he called the boy an ******* and expressed frustration that he might 'get away' that the boy was on a cell phone with his girlfriend until approximately three minutes before he was found dead that the time of the conversation and the time the girl told the boy to run coincide with the account Zimmerman was giving on t he phone at the time, when he changed directions and RAN AWAY From Zimmermans area that ZImmerman has a history of physical aggression towards others that Zimmerman at first told the dispatcher his location, but later changed his mind and asked them to call him when they arrive to see where he would be that Zimmerman claimed he was going to check the street sign although he is the 'watchmen' and there are only three streets in the neighborhood all leading to a likely scenario that Zimmerman was the aggressor/pursuer and Martin was the victim who after being pursued and confronted by someone who didnt want the 'AHOLE' to GET AWAY had the right to 'stand his ground',,,, |
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