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Obama's comments
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A federal appeals court fired back today "You think we can't overturn laws?" This guy if given the chance would become a dictator. I think that was EXACTLY the sentiment OBAma was making regarding judges "I am confident the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically-elected congress" the supreme court doesn't care whether or not elected officials voted for this, but whether it is constitutional! Forcing people to buy health insurance is a crock. forcing them to pay for service entitlements is not...how do you think we pay for the raods, even though not EVERYONE drives on them? ![]() this was just a way to TRY to support a 'free market' option,, as opposed to adding a healthcare tax on everyone,,, The roads get paid for when you register your car. The majority of that money goes to the local schools and the roads! source? |
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Obama's comments
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According to the CDC, approximately 7.3 million women of childbearing age (between 15 and 44) in the US are likely to have impaired fecundity. Overall, that means an impaired fecundity rate of about 11.8%. Many of these women will not become aware that they have a fertility problem until they try to start a family
Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/4651989 thats just the WOMEN rate of infertility and then you have women who get ABORTIONS because they dont want children and those who properly use their BIRTH CONTROL to avoid pregnancy |
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Obama's comments
Edited by
msharmony
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Tue 04/03/12 10:00 PM
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A federal appeals court fired back today "You think we can't overturn laws?" This guy if given the chance would become a dictator. I think that was EXACTLY the sentiment OBAma was making regarding judges "I am confident the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically-elected congress" the supreme court doesn't care whether or not elected officials voted for this, but whether it is constitutional! Forcing people to buy health insurance is a crock. forcing them to pay for service entitlements is not...how do you think we pay for the raods, even though not EVERYONE drives on them? ![]() this was just a way to TRY to support a 'free market' option,, as opposed to adding a healthcare tax on everyone,,, People ride bikes and buses! What they should have done was prevent insurance companies from refusing you for pre-existing conditions and limiting amount of the monthly premiums (capping them). not everyone rides a bike or uses transit,, some stick to sidewalks and walking the caps and pre existing was in the bill too... Not enough people don't use the roads to matter so your point is moot. If these are in the law then we don't need it to be mandatory. Explain to me why I should pay for someone who is not a friend or relative? this is the same argument they try to use against taxes from single people going towards paying for schools,,, its called an investment in COMMUNITY so you have the OPTION to use it without worry No it isn't. People will most likely have kids whether they want them or not so that comparison is silly. there are these things called infertility and condoms and pills,,,,and,,,,, do you realize how many kids there would be if all adults were having kids? its no more or less common than someone going through a lifetime and never needing medical care,,, |
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Obama's comments
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A federal appeals court fired back today "You think we can't overturn laws?" This guy if given the chance would become a dictator. I think that was EXACTLY the sentiment OBAma was making regarding judges "I am confident the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically-elected congress" the supreme court doesn't care whether or not elected officials voted for this, but whether it is constitutional! Forcing people to buy health insurance is a crock. forcing them to pay for service entitlements is not...how do you think we pay for the raods, even though not EVERYONE drives on them? ![]() this was just a way to TRY to support a 'free market' option,, as opposed to adding a healthcare tax on everyone,,, People ride bikes and buses! What they should have done was prevent insurance companies from refusing you for pre-existing conditions and limiting amount of the monthly premiums (capping them). not everyone rides a bike or uses transit,, some stick to sidewalks and walking the caps and pre existing was in the bill too... Not enough people don't use the roads to matter so your point is moot. If these are in the law then we don't need it to be mandatory. Explain to me why I should pay for someone who is not a friend or relative? this is the same argument they try to use against taxes from single people going towards paying for schools,,, its called an investment in COMMUNITY so you have the OPTION to use it without worry |
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Obama's comments
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A federal appeals court fired back today "You think we can't overturn laws?" This guy if given the chance would become a dictator. I think that was EXACTLY the sentiment OBAma was making regarding judges "I am confident the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically-elected congress" the supreme court doesn't care whether or not elected officials voted for this, but whether it is constitutional! Forcing people to buy health insurance is a crock. forcing them to pay for service entitlements is not...how do you think we pay for the raods, even though not EVERYONE drives on them? ![]() this was just a way to TRY to support a 'free market' option,, as opposed to adding a healthcare tax on everyone,,, People ride bikes and buses! What they should have done was prevent insurance companies from refusing you for pre-existing conditions and limiting amount of the monthly premiums (capping them). not everyone rides a bike or uses transit,, some stick to sidewalks and walking the caps and pre existing was in the bill too... |
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Obama's comments
Edited by
msharmony
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Tue 04/03/12 08:58 PM
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A federal appeals court fired back today "You think we can't overturn laws?" This guy if given the chance would become a dictator. I think that was EXACTLY the sentiment OBAma was making regarding judges "I am confident the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically-elected congress" the supreme court doesn't care whether or not elected officials voted for this, but whether it is constitutional! Forcing people to buy health insurance is a crock. forcing them to pay for service entitlements is not...how do you think we pay for the raods, even though not EVERYONE drives on them? ![]() this was just a way to TRY to support a 'free market' option,, as opposed to adding a healthcare tax on everyone,,, |
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Obama's comments
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A federal appeals court fired back today "You think we can't overturn laws?" This guy if given the chance would become a dictator. I think that was EXACTLY the sentiment OBAma was making regarding judges "I am confident the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically-elected congress" |
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Obama's comments
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how many politicians actually DO point fingers at themself in election year?
did they all fail,,,,,? |
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Misinformation for ratings
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Well, but I don't think this case is unusual at all. The media constantly has to have something to exclaim about. Remember what they did with the Terry Schiavo case. Jon Benet Ramsay. OJ Simpson. They're addicted to this kind of thing. They ALWAYS do trial by media. They ALWAYS twist the facts to be as inflammatory as possible. And the public eats it up with glee. Nobody ever stops to ask, "Is what I'm reading or hearing truly the complete story?" What might the other side be?" It makes me sick. cant help it in the media age where people have been indoctrinated in the 'right to know' culture and jurors who are given explicit instructions to consider the case BECAUSE of that tendency for media to report facts as I recall, the public thought the parents killed jon benet, she was found in the family home by the father after a gathering of family and friends had been called, but POLICE botched it by letting the father look for her so they were never charged In the oj case, their appeared to be dna evidence but the POLICE botched it by holding on to the evidence so long and by having questionable evidence and a questionable officer on the case with potentially biased motives,,,, In the Terry Schiavo case, the next of kin rights withstood public outcry and it remained the husbands call in this case though, its the family that has the right to know, without doubt, and I hope they find out the facts a jury should have facts , the police should not BOTCH an investigation, and the parents should get some closure,,, |
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Love at first sight.
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the eyes dont develop 'love'
they develop 'lust' or 'attraction' social interaction develops 'love' |
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Recovery from religion...
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good point
sometimes a topic puts people in a defensive mode from the start,,,wording is very important when tone is harder to 'hear' with our ears,,,, I think if I put up a thread about 'recovering from being your childs friend',,,Id get plenty of defensive response from those who feel that their friendship with their children is not in the least harmful,,,or in need of 'recovery'..... |
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a kid is dead... thats not a wrongdoing? You just run in circles, huh? Killing a person in self-defense is not a wrong doing. it hasn't been proved that it was self defense.. the courts decide that... we can argue this till the cows come home, it won't change anything. but the kid is still dead. that won't change. You guys just don't get the American legal system, do you. I'll explain it again. Until Zimmerman is formally charged with a crime, there will be no trial. Zimmerman won't be charged with a crime, unless there is enough evidence to ensure a conviction. The likelihood is that there will not be a charge and therefore no conviction. You are just going to have to live with that. I understand the legal system fine. Noone is claiming there will be a trial without a charge and noone knows whether there is 'enough' evidence for a conviction. Time will tell whether an arrest will be made and a trial will be decided how long did it take them to arrest Scott Peterson,,,,,?sometimes the process is longer,, but it doesnt mean enough evidence isnt there,,, |
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Misinformation for ratings
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thats understandable its why I prefer to have scrutinized 'facts' come out in a trial,,, How about just having the facts period. The whole frenzy started because the media edited the 911 tapes and the video footage of Zimmerman. In the link I posted you can clearly see the gashes in Zimmermans head. And look at the original pics shown by the media Martin from several years ago. I'm tired of hearing him still being described as a little kid. He was 17 years old. He was 6' tall. And Zimmerman didn't out weigh Martin by 100 pounds. This wouldn't even be a story if the media didn't twist the the facts and edit out the truth. nothing is clear here in terms of facts the first reports I heard in 'media' did not have an edited tape,,but the whole conversation and people were upset THEN because the boy was unarmed and shot by someone with a gun who was still walking the streets FREE after saying on tape that he had been following the unarmed boy,,, the family originally released older pics he was a kid compared to the person who shot him, he paid no bills, he was still in high school Zimmerman didnt outweigh him by 100 pounds, but he did outweigh him, he out 'experienced' him and out weaponed him and out BULKED him,,,,, this became a story because the parents drew attention to their child being shot dead by an armed adult who was being allowed to walk free,,,, |
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self defense is a defense for killing
we know the kid was unarmed and now dead, and we know who shot im we dont know if he fought to get the gun away from a threat or if he was shot by the gun for being a threat,,,but either way,,, in this case a defense that should be presented in a trial IMHO |
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I could refute that claim by replaying the 911 tapes of people who couldnt even TELL what races were involved,,, Refute what? this was a social status event, people with money, tired of their stuff being taken and an overzealous watchmen wanting to save the day by making sure the '*******' that was up to 'no good', waling in the rain with a hoody didnt 'get away' Right, you have Zimmerman convicted, not on the facts, but the race. Zimmerman was "white" enough to be guilty. That's all the mob mentality needs. A "white" man killed a black man, it couldn't be justified! and I Beg to differ, if we changed the races, and this was a white young man in a predominately black neighborhood where , lets say, graffiti had been rampant and a black man had followed him in a car, until he CHANGED Directions and RAN Away, and then that same man LEFT his car and continued to follow him and that child ended up unarmed and shot dead,,, this would be unfolding the SAME way,,,,, I said nothing about changing the race of Trayvon, I said if Zimmerman had been a black man, you wouldn't care. That's a fact. Nobody would. It's only because Zimmerman is a "white" man that anyone cares. The same weekend that Trayvon was killed, many innocent black children were murdered by black men and nobody blinked an eye. Another innocent black girl shot in the cross fire of a drug war, oh well! But if it had been a white guy who shot her, the crap would hit the fan. This isn't about justice, it's about race. I want a TRIAL, the jurors can decide to convict if there are cases of innocent black children being murdered by black men who continued to WALK FREE and uncharged,, Id love to hear about it,,,, the issue is deeper than crime, its letting the potential killer WALK FREE although, judicially, its wise not to act IMMEDIATELY, so that they can build the case they need because they only have so long to charge him after an arrest is officially made |
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Misinformation for ratings
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thats understandable
its why I prefer to have scrutinized 'facts' come out in a trial,,, |
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I will have to accept what the grand jury decides, I wont be 'satisfied' if no trial occurs though. no. I Think the boy deserves an attempt at justice, not just a he said/she said defense from his accuser/killer,,, There is no defense involved in the Grand Jury, just the prosecutor. If a one sided argument for the prosecution of Zimmerman can't convince the Grand Jury, he goes free. That's how our justice system works. I think it's obvious that Zimmerman won't be safe until he is prosecuted and probably he needs to be convicted just to put this to bed. That's how bad it is, even if he's innocent, he has to go to prison or this stupid mess will never go away. I'm just going to say it. If Zimmerman were black, nobody would give a damn about Trayvon outside of his family. It's only because Zimmerman is a "white Hispanic" that anybody is demanding "justice" (code for blood). I could refute that claim by replaying the 911 tapes of people who couldnt even TELL what races were involved,,, this was a social status event, people with money, tired of their stuff being taken and an overzealous watchmen wanting to save the day by making sure the '*******' that was up to 'no good', waling in the rain with a hoody didnt 'get away' and I Beg to differ, if we changed the races, and this was a white young man in a predominately black neighborhood where , lets say, graffiti had been rampant and a black man had followed him in a car, until he CHANGED Directions and RAN Away, and then that same man LEFT his car and continued to follow him and that child ended up unarmed and shot dead,,, this would be unfolding the SAME way,,,,, |
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Msharmony, Our justice system only puts people on trial, if there is enough evidence to possibly get a conviction. Will you be satisfied if the Grand Jury finds no grounds for prosecution or do you feel that Zimmerman has to go to trial no matter what? I think the case needs to go to trial, given the 'victims' record of confrontation and his 'admitted' actions that night which would give the child every right to DEFEND himself the way he did and the man no longer a right to merely claim defense,,, So it has to go to trial, even if the Grand Jury thinks no crime was committed? So you admit that this isn't about justice, it's just about anger and feeding the mob mentality. It's disgusting. I will have to accept what the grand jury decides, I wont be 'satisfied' if no trial occurs though. no. I Think the boy deserves an attempt at justice, not just a he said/she said defense from his accuser/killer,,, |
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Msharmony, Our justice system only puts people on trial, if there is enough evidence to possibly get a conviction. Will you be satisfied if the Grand Jury finds no grounds for prosecution or do you feel that Zimmerman has to go to trial no matter what? I think the case needs to go to trial, given the 'victims' record of confrontation and his 'admitted' actions that night which would give the child every right to DEFEND himself the way he did and the man no longer a right to merely claim defense,,, |
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Religion is Child Abuse?
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if how one raise their children were no one business then all the parents should band together and get rid of Child Protection Services ...it's a useless government organization and a waste of the taxpayers money...clearly everyone knows that God protects Children and fools if a parent choose not to take their near death child to the doctor with the intentions of following their Faith and allowing God to heal the child instead...why is that anyone's business ... shame on the government for it's intrusion on religious freedom saving a physical life is different than determining what 'harmful' lessons constitute abuse,,,, and I Actually agree that inaction should not in itself be a crime,,, |
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