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things go up and down, it really depends on what range of years people choose to compare for instance I may have made 60000 in 2000 40000 in 2005 and make 50000 now,,, in 2012 i could compare now to the year 2000 and say its gotten worse, but I could compare it to 2005 and say its gotten better,,, No the think is he is looking at the country as a whole and you are looking at yourself. I can speak from personal experience also as to the huge change after the election year. I graduated in 2008 the year of the election. I graduated in the spring and pretty much everyone got a job. Then in 2009 he took office and pretty much all the EEs that graduated the year after me were jobless for over a year. Some were even emailing me asking if my company was hiring. It wasn't since as soon as he took office he canceled our contracts and we lost 1k people at my facility. I mean I could look at it as if he didn't do that I never would have went abroad and met my gf. I also am making more money at this new job I just got, but I am not doing what I wanted to do. I was at my old job though. I could actually be working as an engineer overseas by now if I was still at my old job as I told them I wanted to go and they were starting some training to facilitate that. So yea that could have been my only chance to fulfill that dream. your personal experience is one of millions and it is unfortunate, but not everyones is as unfortunate and some are downright better I wasnt comparing personal experiences, though I would gather there are some gm employees who are downright thrilled with some of the choices that were made since 'he took office', who would suggest that things being better for them meant things in general were better,.,,, I was making the point that numbers out of context and 'raw' can be compared to suggest an improvement or a lack of improvement just by picking and choosing which numbers to use but those raw numbers are not a clear indication of whether something is better or worse in any general sense, they only imply better or worse as it relates to the two things being compared i think what you are really saying is that your closing your eyes to what is going on around you, and only see what you want to see as it pertains to you. no, Im saying my eyes are open to logic, and I see MORE than just one side of what others portray about their perspective,,,, But having read the arguments back and forth all you see is the altruism the Democratic party WANTS you to believe in. The fact here is you do not see the fallacies in the Obama Health Care plan, you do not see where the financial responsibility falls, and you also fail to see the unconstitutional nature of this health care plan. When a plan like this penalizes people for not paying into this "SYSTEM" (Ponzi Scheme actually) especially when they are poor and cannot afford it something is wrong and I am stunned you of all these "Logical" people cannot see this. You are cheer leading for Obama and for all the wrong reasons. Praise performance (which Obama has not done) and not incompetence and selling us out (Which Obama has indeed done with more than one industry). Obama Care is nothing more than "YOU WILL DO THIS OR WE WILL PUNISH YOU" leadership and that unto itself makes me want to take up arms for fear of government reprisals for not having the means to meet their new and ever changing laws. You are aware many communities had laws that said things like "If you don't have $10 in your pocket we can arrest you for vagrancy?" When are we going to get past all these stupid laws and get some enforcement instead? No Msharmony, you are praising incompetence and not doing so with any real rational logic or unfallacious reason. The facts are Obama's performance as president has been the worst since Jimmy Carter who was rated by many historians as the worst president EVER in this nation until now. This nation is worst off than had we been in the 1930s and no relief is in sight until Congress stops being a bunch of screw ups and gets some manufacturig back into this nation and end the trade deficit with China. Till then we live in mediocrity and heading quickly into a collapsed economy. When Obama says things are getting better they are not. When I have money in the bank things are not so bad. But I am slowly being bled dry by work falling off from gas prices and having to pay to fuel my work truck. The price of food to feed myself is killing me too. So what, become a ward of the state and suckle at the teat of government like so many others do? That is the thinking of the Poor Complex! That is why I say FUQUE the POOR! I don't want hand outs, I want fair leadership not stuffing discrimination down my throat in the guise of Affirmative Action. Segregation was supposed to have been done away with, not reversed on Whites and Asians. Oh but since Obama is a Democrat he can't o any wrong I suppose? And we are still in Afghanistan why? We are not putting Iran in place why? Our elected officials want to drag us into Syria why? We have to give food aid to N Korea Why? We have to listen to everything the UN tells us WHY? The UN tells the USA to jump off of a bridge and we are supposed to? Why do we even have to fix the world? We need to fix our own damn home first and Obama is not doing that forcing us to spend more money. And Michelle Obama is the Amelia Marcos of America! Bet that bugie beyatch has a closet in the White House FILLED with shoes. And another filled with the dead bodies of the servants that she got pissed off at! its a well written commentary, Im sure it does little to change my opinions anymore than my commentaries change yours but . well written, which is nice to see in these threads,,, |
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things go up and down, it really depends on what range of years people choose to compare for instance I may have made 60000 in 2000 40000 in 2005 and make 50000 now,,, in 2012 i could compare now to the year 2000 and say its gotten worse, but I could compare it to 2005 and say its gotten better,,, No the think is he is looking at the country as a whole and you are looking at yourself. I can speak from personal experience also as to the huge change after the election year. I graduated in 2008 the year of the election. I graduated in the spring and pretty much everyone got a job. Then in 2009 he took office and pretty much all the EEs that graduated the year after me were jobless for over a year. Some were even emailing me asking if my company was hiring. It wasn't since as soon as he took office he canceled our contracts and we lost 1k people at my facility. I mean I could look at it as if he didn't do that I never would have went abroad and met my gf. I also am making more money at this new job I just got, but I am not doing what I wanted to do. I was at my old job though. I could actually be working as an engineer overseas by now if I was still at my old job as I told them I wanted to go and they were starting some training to facilitate that. So yea that could have been my only chance to fulfill that dream. your personal experience is one of millions and it is unfortunate, but not everyones is as unfortunate and some are downright better I wasnt comparing personal experiences, though I would gather there are some gm employees who are downright thrilled with some of the choices that were made since 'he took office', who would suggest that things being better for them meant things in general were better,.,,, I was making the point that numbers out of context and 'raw' can be compared to suggest an improvement or a lack of improvement just by picking and choosing which numbers to use but those raw numbers are not a clear indication of whether something is better or worse in any general sense, they only imply better or worse as it relates to the two things being compared i think what you are really saying is that your closing your eyes to what is going on around you, and only see what you want to see as it pertains to you. no, Im saying my eyes are open to logic, and I see MORE than just one side of what others portray about their perspective,,,, i would argue that... if you cannot see the country is worse now than it was 4 years ago, then your eyes are closed...is the job market better or worse? is the oil prices cheaper than 4 years ago? has the exports gotten bigger? has the housing crisis gotten better? are people opening new business and beefing up the economy? show me something that has been done in the last 4 years that helped ... and don't say obamacare, because that is going to break the country, but you don't see that either. well, lets pick some details then from approximately 2007-2010 we were in a RECESSION, "a significant decline in economic activity spread across the economy, lasting more than a few months, normally visible in real gross domestic product (GDP), real income, employment, industrial production, and wholesale-retail sales".[1][nb 1] WHICH MEANS,, four years ago , in march 2008 we were already in a decline,,,during a time where BUSH administration would have input into the us budget and policies (his last budget ended october 2009) so, the decline from 2008 until 2010 would be fairly indisputable and mostly have nothing to do with the current administration then, if we compare apples to apples and take the numbers from late 2009 (when this administration would have budget and polic authority) we would find the following gdp 3.5 % growth thrid quarter 2009, 2% growth third quarter 2010,2.5% growth in third quarter 2011 COMPARE WITH .3% decrease in third quarter of 2008 ANALYSIS: GDP improving real income real median income in 2009 was 51,050 and in 2010 was 50,046 COMPARE WITH 52,687 in 2008 and 53,356 in 2009 ANALYSIS: Real income declining employment 10/09 10.2% unemployment, 10/10 9.6% unemployment 10/11 9.0 unemployment COMPARE WITH: 6.5 percent unemployment in 2008 ANALYSIS: after a 3.7 percent increase during BUsh final budget the rate began to decrease for OBamas first two budgets at a fairly stead .6 percent annually ANALYSIS: Employment rates getting better industrial production according to http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/g17/revisions/current/revchart1.gif industrial production declined steadily from 2007-2009 and has been steadily increasing since ANALYSIS: Industrial production increasing SO, in comparing these four details (gdp, income, employment, production) three of the four factors have actually IMPROVED ,,,,a long way to go to further prove how a position can be supported by numbers depending upon how well we choose the factors and numbers to compare,,, |
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guilt by association,,,dontcha hate it?
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things go up and down, it really depends on what range of years people choose to compare for instance I may have made 60000 in 2000 40000 in 2005 and make 50000 now,,, in 2012 i could compare now to the year 2000 and say its gotten worse, but I could compare it to 2005 and say its gotten better,,, No the think is he is looking at the country as a whole and you are looking at yourself. I can speak from personal experience also as to the huge change after the election year. I graduated in 2008 the year of the election. I graduated in the spring and pretty much everyone got a job. Then in 2009 he took office and pretty much all the EEs that graduated the year after me were jobless for over a year. Some were even emailing me asking if my company was hiring. It wasn't since as soon as he took office he canceled our contracts and we lost 1k people at my facility. I mean I could look at it as if he didn't do that I never would have went abroad and met my gf. I also am making more money at this new job I just got, but I am not doing what I wanted to do. I was at my old job though. I could actually be working as an engineer overseas by now if I was still at my old job as I told them I wanted to go and they were starting some training to facilitate that. So yea that could have been my only chance to fulfill that dream. your personal experience is one of millions and it is unfortunate, but not everyones is as unfortunate and some are downright better I wasnt comparing personal experiences, though I would gather there are some gm employees who are downright thrilled with some of the choices that were made since 'he took office', who would suggest that things being better for them meant things in general were better,.,,, I was making the point that numbers out of context and 'raw' can be compared to suggest an improvement or a lack of improvement just by picking and choosing which numbers to use but those raw numbers are not a clear indication of whether something is better or worse in any general sense, they only imply better or worse as it relates to the two things being compared i think what you are really saying is that your closing your eyes to what is going on around you, and only see what you want to see as it pertains to you. no, Im saying my eyes are open to logic, and I see MORE than just one side of what others portray about their perspective,,,, |
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I knew some people that only voted for Obama BECAUSE he was black. They didn't know what he stood for or anything. They either wanted to support him because of his race or to be a part of history. So what does that make them? Racist. IM sure that racism caused some to vote for him because he was black and caused some to be unable/unwilling to vote for him because he was black it existed on both sides of the coin Nope, according to some know it all here only whites can be racist! Boy could I tell Tales! 
Racism is a Disease that doesn't respect Color or Ethnicity! ______________ Racism Racism is the lowest, most crudely primitive form of collectivism. It is the notion of ascribing moral, social or political significance to a man’s genetic lineage—the notion that a man’s intellectual and characterological traits are produced and transmitted by his internal body chemistry. Which means, in practice, that a man is to be judged, not by his own character and actions, but by the characters and actions of a collective of ancestors. Racism claims that the content of a man’s mind (not his cognitive apparatus, but its content) is inherited; that a man’s convictions, values and character are determined before he is born, by physical factors beyond his control. This is the caveman’s version of the doctrine of innate ideas—or of inherited knowledge—which has been thoroughly refuted by philosophy and science. Racism is a doctrine of, by and for brutes. It is a barnyard or stock-farm version of collectivism, appropriate to a mentality that differentiates between various breeds of animals, but not between animals and men. Like every form of determinism, racism invalidates the specific attribute which distinguishes man from all other living species: his rational faculty. Racism negates two aspects of man’s life: reason and choice, or mind and morality, replacing them with chemical predestination. http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/racism.html LOL go to Asia and tell me there is no racism. Buildings actually advertise no foreigners allowed. It is totally legal to deny someone service based on race. doesnt 'foreigner' imply a non citizen or nationality? people exchange race with nationality alot, Asia is a very homogenous nation in terms of race (ie. mostly ASIANS,which we consider a race here in the US), so I guess in their example other nationalities would pretty much also be other races,, I think when we speak about it in the context of american history, we are speaking about race in terms of ancestral identity and not nationality though,,,, |
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things go up and down, it really depends on what range of years people choose to compare for instance I may have made 60000 in 2000 40000 in 2005 and make 50000 now,,, in 2012 i could compare now to the year 2000 and say its gotten worse, but I could compare it to 2005 and say its gotten better,,, No the think is he is looking at the country as a whole and you are looking at yourself. I can speak from personal experience also as to the huge change after the election year. I graduated in 2008 the year of the election. I graduated in the spring and pretty much everyone got a job. Then in 2009 he took office and pretty much all the EEs that graduated the year after me were jobless for over a year. Some were even emailing me asking if my company was hiring. It wasn't since as soon as he took office he canceled our contracts and we lost 1k people at my facility. I mean I could look at it as if he didn't do that I never would have went abroad and met my gf. I also am making more money at this new job I just got, but I am not doing what I wanted to do. I was at my old job though. I could actually be working as an engineer overseas by now if I was still at my old job as I told them I wanted to go and they were starting some training to facilitate that. So yea that could have been my only chance to fulfill that dream. your personal experience is one of millions and it is unfortunate, but not everyones is as unfortunate and some are downright better I wasnt comparing personal experiences, though I would gather there are some gm employees who are downright thrilled with some of the choices that were made since 'he took office', who would suggest that things being better for them meant things in general were better,.,,, I was making the point that numbers out of context and 'raw' can be compared to suggest an improvement or a lack of improvement just by picking and choosing which numbers to use but those raw numbers are not a clear indication of whether something is better or worse in any general sense, they only imply better or worse as it relates to the two things being compared |
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what is a 'crime family?'
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Love at first sight.
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Do u believe in love at first sight? Does it really work? Some sample opinion says it work and some says it does not. What is your view everybody. the eyes lust, the spirit loves I dont believe in 'love' at first sight, but I do believe sight/lust/attraction can intrigue our interest and opportunity to fall in love,,, |
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And Ron Paul..............
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Ron Paul works in Washington EXACTLY like every other politician... And he has for over 30 years. Every Ron Paul supporter has stated power and Congress corrupts and they think he is immune. Not accoding to his voting history, or the fact that h does his job without pay. How corrupt is that?? WHAT JOB does he do without pay 
How many doctors do you know of in this century that delivered babies without recompense even occassionally. he could not make a living if he did that. What I think you are referring to is he did not charge those with federal insurance because he refused federal money, which is also admirable. HE still received money though, from the patients who could pay or had private insurance. True, and he never refused a patient due to their inability to pay as well. I doubt that as well. I guarantee that is not true. Proven and documented..... even refused to let patients leave a hospital without being treated when they were turned out for no insurance, or refused by other Drs. Your guarantees are as good as your reseach. IM curious how he 'refused'? Can I be pointed in the direction of this research? IN America, as far as I know, a patient coming into a hospital for treatment without an appointment is generally in an emergency room which cant turn them away,,,,,, |
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Expresses the sense of the Congress that the President did not comply with the War Powers Act when he ordered the April 14, 1986, attack on Libya. Urges the President to comply with such Act in the future. war powers act is not about 'blatant disregard' it is about consulting with congress before ordering military action which Reagan did not do when HE ordered air strikes over Libya either,,, he met with 'members' of congress,, as did OBama but he never got 'congressional approval' in the formal sense of the ambiguous term Well.. I was going to stay out of this discussion, but I changed my mind.. A little history.. In 1981 Libya launched an airstrike against US ships in international waters. An act of war? Possibly.. Again, in 1986 Libya launched surface to air missiles at our Jets flying over the same international waters.. An act of war? Possibly.. After this confrontation, Libya ordered retaliatory actions against US military bases in Europe. Libya actually declared war on the US.. A week after this the bomb went off in the Berlin disco killing a US soldier.. War Powers Act Section 2 (C) The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to (1) a declaration of war, (2) specific statutory authorization, or (3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces. http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/warpower.asp/ There is clearly a difference between the reasons Reagan bombed Libya and Obama bombing Libya.. Reagan had clear authority to use the War Powers Act because of the Libyan attacks against US military personnel. there is no 'clear' record of Libya having declared a war against the US there was a SINGULAR terrorist assault at a nightclub for which Libya was ASSUMED responsible... the War Powers Act was not relevant when he sent the troops,,,, you seemed to leave out the attacks on US naval forces in international waters carried out by the Libyan military forces.. are you saying they didn't happen either? Im saying at the time there Reagan gave the order, he was responding not to any attack by any government on the US,, he was responding to an ISOLATED incident by individuals against us military in another country,,,, not covered as 'declaration of war' by Libya, and therefore prone to approval by Congress,,, If the US military attacks a Canadian ship off the coast of Maryland, but in international waters you are saying that is an attack carried out by individuals and not the US? So using the War Powers Act to surgically strike a country that had its military attack you in international waters does not meet YOUR standard.. Where in God's name did Obama get the authority to attack with absolutely NO provocation? if a US ship attacks, that is a US strike, if US citizens organize to attack that is a TERRORIST strike in 1986, when Raegan sent troops, there had been a TERRORIST strike in April which killed three american troops and injured 60 american citizens and 140 non americans in retaliation, on April 15, Raegan sent in troops Libya attacked US military personnel in international waters in May 1981 and again in March 1986.. LIBYAN MILITARY PLANES.. LIBYAN MILITARY SURFACE TO AIR MISSILES.. NOT INDIVIDUALS >>>>> LIBYAN MILITARY PERSONNEL... You didnt answer my question of where Obama got the authority to attack without provocation.. by precedent....other PRESIDENTS had the authority before him can you give me the name(s) of the ship(s) that was attacked, or the numbers of americans injured or killed in this 'march 1986' aggression towards us military personnel...? On August 19, 1981, 2 Libyan SU-22 aircraft fired an “Atoll” air-to-air missile at 2 U.S. F-14 aircraft from the carrier Nimitz over the Gulf of Sidra. The Atoll missed but the F-14's did not; the U.S. Navy pilots shot down both Libyan aircraft. 1986 Air and Sea Battle. The U.S. Navy began a naval exercise on January 23,1986, in the Mediterranean north of the Gulf of Sidra. (The United States followed accepted international procedures and notified all interested countries, including Libya, of the exercise.)During the week of February 11-15, 1986, Libyan and U.S. aircraft had more than a dozen encounters, although neither side fired shots. On March 24, 1986, Libya fired 6 SA-5 high altitude, long range, slow speed, surface-to-air missiles and 2 SA-2 low altitude, short range,high speed surface-to-air missiles at U.S. aircraft; all missed their targets. A-7 aircraft from U.S. carriers knocked out the SA-5 installations, and repeated the attack 4 hours later after the installation resumed activity. Also, A-6 carrier based aircraft attacked and sank or damaged four small Libyan attack boats that approached the U.S. ships http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/9577.pdf/ Now you can continue denying any of this happened if you want.. Or trying to equate what happened in the 80s as being the same for obama in some twisted fashion.. The fact is they aren't similar and anyone outside an obama kool aid drinker can clearly see it.. if you say so sounds like a 'they started it' excuse to me though, considering the bit about how we had already had 'encounters' still, it falls short of a 'national emergency' (which gives authority to act without congress) a full three weeks later,,,,, (what kind of emergency takes a month?) |
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Barry Is Now Irish Also?
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Every day he is something else, oh wait it's campaign time again that makes sense. 
not quite everyday all I have heard him claim is Kenyan and american, although OTHERS have made claims about him,,,, |
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I knew some people that only voted for Obama BECAUSE he was black. They didn't know what he stood for or anything. They either wanted to support him because of his race or to be a part of history. So what does that make them? Racist. IM sure that racism caused some to vote for him because he was black and caused some to be unable/unwilling to vote for him because he was black it existed on both sides of the coin |
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And Ron Paul..............
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Ron Paul works in Washington EXACTLY like every other politician... And he has for over 30 years. Every Ron Paul supporter has stated power and Congress corrupts and they think he is immune. to be fair, he doesnt seem to have held much more power than OBama since in 22 years, Paul sponsored 620 bills and got ONE signed into law,,,thats a rate of about 28 bills per year and a .04 percent success rate comparing to OBama who sponsored 121 bills as senator from 2005-2008 and had only 3 passed into law,,,thats a rate of about 40 bills per year and a 2 percent success rate neither one are/were bigshots in terms of political power before they ran Yeah but Obama was a community organizer also..........
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Barry Is Now Irish Also?
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WASHINGTON – His jacket was only moss green but his pint was true Guinness. President Barack Obama tilted back a glass of the dark Irish brew Saturday, observing St. Patrick's Day at a boisterous Irish pub with his ancestral cousin from Moneygall, Ireland, at his side. At the White House, the main South Lawn Fountain burbled green water. Nearby, workers prepared for a visit Tuesday by the Irish Prime Minister Enda Kenny. The first family was putting on its Irish, a blood line that runs through Obama's veins. Obama took his motorcade to the Dubliner Restaurant and Pub on a dazzling Saturday afternoon. He wore no Kelly green but his jacket was pierced with a button that read, "VIP GUEST -- Tell `em Danny sent you." The president waded into a crowd -- some in leprechaun hats and others in dyed green hair -- at the entrance of the tavern near Washington's landmark Union Station. He wished one reveler, Adam Joseph, a happy 29th birthday. Reporters were ushered into the pub briefly, long enough to catch the president taking two sips of his beer. The thick foam stuck to his upper lip in a thin mustache. And he held Dubliner owner Danny Coleman's 21-month-old grandson, Danny, in his arms. "Hey, Danny, who's this?" Obama asked, holding out his VIP GUEST button, which bore the child's image. One of Obama's great-great-great grandfathers on his Kansas mother's side was Falmouth Kearney, a shoemaker who emigrated from Ireland to the United States in 1850. Last year, Obama visited his ancestral home of Moneygall, a small hamlet in Ireland, and was a hit when he drank a Guinness at the local pub. On Saturday, the owner of that pub, Ollie Hayes, and Henry Healy, an eighth cousin to Obama and the closest relative still living in Moneygall, joined him barside at the Dubliner as his guests. Some in the bar crowd chanted "Four more years!" Dubliner owner Danny Coleman said the president finished his beer, and predicted that, at least on this day, Obama could count on the support of the millions of Americans who claim Irish ancestry. On Tuesday, Obama and Vice President Biden will meet the Irish Prime Minister Enda Kenny and attend a St. Patrick's Day lunch at the Capitol. Then the president and first lady Michelle Obama will host an evening reception at the White House. Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03/17/obama-marks-st-patricks-day-with-pint-in-pub/#ixzz1pRpJU5y8 Damn, his heritage changes on a daily basis. an addition is not a change,,,I have african AND Scottish ancestry myself,,, |
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Just wondering......about
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As far as I can tell, the first amendment gives no freedom to disrupt so if the 347 bill is basically aimed at those who are engaged in a disruptive behavior with their MOUTHS,,,I dont see it as a threat its kind of like 'you cant yell fire in a crowded theater', except its 'you cant be disruptive in a restricted or official area where government or the president is operating or present' Maybe protestors can speak openly from within designated FEMA camps...
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And Ron Paul..............
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You must admit..... what he said would happen all those years ago, that made people call him fringe, crazy, a doomsdayer..... welcome to the reality..... People see now that he wasn't so crazy after all, and are starting to listen a whole lot closer to what he has to say now time will tell... |
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What's wrong w murder, adultery, greed, coveting? JK/ sarcasm. They are nothing more than modern day laws separated by the mere association of the bible lol, I feel ya happens alot , mere association to religion causing 'rights' to be struck down and petitioned against,,,etc,,, |
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And Ron Paul..............
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Ron Paul works in Washington EXACTLY like every other politician... And he has for over 30 years. Every Ron Paul supporter has stated power and Congress corrupts and they think he is immune. Not accoding to his voting history, or the fact that h does his job without pay. How corrupt is that?? WHAT JOB does he do without pay
How many doctors do you know of in this century that delivered babies without recompense even occassionally. he could not make a living if he did that. What I think you are referring to is he did not charge those with federal insurance because he refused federal money, which is also admirable. HE still received money though, from the patients who could pay or had private insurance. True, and he never refused a patient due to their inability to pay as well. sounds like a great doctor, maybe a field he should remain in,,, His is a message, a voice of the people. If elected, he would inspire the people to pressure the lawmakers into cleaning up their acts, and probably get more more support from the house and senate than any President has in a very long time! who knows,,,but I dont think he is getting the support necessary to win the nomination Pardon the expression, but the fat lady hasn't sung yet! 
thats true, but he did run this same game when he was ten years younger and more vital,, the fat lady must be obese by this time,,,and she may not re visit the stage,,,, but who knows |
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And Ron Paul..............
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Ron Paul works in Washington EXACTLY like every other politician... And he has for over 30 years. Every Ron Paul supporter has stated power and Congress corrupts and they think he is immune. Not accoding to his voting history, or the fact that h does his job without pay. How corrupt is that?? WHAT JOB does he do without pay
How many doctors do you know of in this century that delivered babies without recompense even occassionally. he could not make a living if he did that. What I think you are referring to is he did not charge those with federal insurance because he refused federal money, which is also admirable. HE still received money though, from the patients who could pay or had private insurance. True, and he never refused a patient due to their inability to pay as well. sounds like a great doctor, maybe a field he should remain in,,, His is a message, a voice of the people. If elected, he would inspire the people to pressure the lawmakers into cleaning up their acts, and probably get more more support from the house and senate than any President has in a very long time! who knows,,,but I dont think he is getting the support necessary to win the nomination |
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Didn't they try and have the ten commandments removed from government buildings already? Im pretty sure they were successful on that one. IT favors one religion if the government does it itself and doesnt exhibit ALL other religious doctrines as well (and how could it?) an individual choice by a person to have them displayed though, might be worth fighting for ,,,, |
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