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Sat 03/03/12 09:33 PM
no, but I think I have been brainwashed through repetitive suggestion before,,,,

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Sat 03/03/12 09:31 PM



Okay, I want some input on this idea.

We are discussing the Government mandating that insurance companies offer birth control pills.

How about decoupling Job and Insurance and allow us to buy it across state lines? Why is it that I have dozens of choices of car / home / boat / renters insurance, but no choices in medical insurance?

Shouldn't we be able to buy insurance to cover the things we want? Allowing women to get birth control pills will raise my premium too. Allowing men to get Viagra also effects my premium. I shouldn't have to pay for any product or service that I don't use.

Also, insurance prices (and healthcare prices) are effected by judgement amounts in lawsuits. Shouldn't we put a reasonable cap on damages?

So what I'm saying is this:

* Decouple Job and Insurance
* Allow Insurance to be purchased across state lines
* Ala Cart Insurance, customized to what the consumer wants.
* Cap in court damages



only if wages are increased to make up for the power the insurance companies will hold to create even more ridiculous prices for individual policies....


The free market keeps all other forms of insurance cheaper, why wouldn't it keep health insurance cheaper? The only proven method to actually decrease the price of a product or service is competition. So what makes you think that competition for health insurance would raise prices?



we already have a free market, yet individual insurance is high
I have no reason to think they will come down if there are not employee 'group' options available to make up for their bottom line,,,

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Sat 03/03/12 08:46 PM



I think each individual is responsible for THEIR actions, regardless of gender

so a male is responsible for covering up (IF HE DOESNT WANT KIDS)
and a female is responsible for either having BC or insisting the man is covered up (IF SHE DOESNT WANT KIDS)


It isn't just about kids. It's about protection from STDs as well.



unfortunately, the woman has less control when it comes to stds, her only real choice is abstinence or INSISTING The partner wears a condom

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Sat 03/03/12 08:42 PM
I am curious what the op means by 'tolerate'


IF I can not tolerate someones behavior while drinking, they have to drink when they are not around me if they wish to show me respect

IF I can not tolerate someone smoking around me, they would have to not smoke in my presence to show me respect


,,,these forms of 'tolerate', we can work around

if someone cant RESPECT me enough to withhold those types of voluntary actions around me knowing they cause me such discomfort

that would be something that I could not 'TOLERATE' enough to work around,,,

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Sat 03/03/12 08:36 PM





I have seen the reports on the news of who they had testify before congress....5 guys?

Fluke is s feminist lawyer so I'm sure she has no agenda.
And if 90% of women have used birth control it doesn't seem to me that there is any problem with women getting birth control. Why is this even an issue then?


It should be provided to women free.

Dental check ups should be free.

Breast exams should be free.



How will it be free?
Someone has to pay for it.
What about unwanted STD's caused by more promiscuous women because they are on the pill and don't have to worry about getting pregnant. That's not gonna cost anything either?


Don't those women have to be sleeping with infected men not using contraceptives themselves?? Isn't it just as much the man's decision on whether to use a prophylactic as it is the woman's?? And aren't the men spreading it too?

And, BTW prophylactics are provided to men for free everyday.....they just choose not to get them or use them.


Using condoms is absolutely a choice a man is involved in. I don't understand the line of thinking of those who think it's all a woman's decision.



I think each individual is responsible for THEIR actions, regardless of gender

so a male is responsible for covering up (IF HE DOESNT WANT KIDS)
and a female is responsible for either having BC or insisting the man is covered up (IF SHE DOESNT WANT KIDS)

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Sat 03/03/12 08:34 PM



In a relationship, do you have more traditional values or more modern?

Give examples of each so that I know what you are talking about.


A traditional relationship is the whole Working man, and the wife stays home with the kids, cleans the house, cooks. That kind of thing.

And Modern is the opposite. lol



balanced, I am traditional in believing the woman should probably have a more 'natural' tendency to nurture and the man should be more of a 'natural' worker/provider

I am modern in understanding there are no absolutes and in modern economy, it is usually much more difficult to maintain a family on one average income,,,,so either the father has a very good job, or father and mother have to work average jobs, or the mother have a really good job

but, to be completely honest, something in my just isnt comfortable with providing financially for a grown man when I know I will be naturally taking care of the 'domestic' things too (the domestic is a strong part of my nature)

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Sat 03/03/12 08:30 PM

Okay, I want some input on this idea.

We are discussing the Government mandating that insurance companies offer birth control pills.

How about decoupling Job and Insurance and allow us to buy it across state lines? Why is it that I have dozens of choices of car / home / boat / renters insurance, but no choices in medical insurance?

Shouldn't we be able to buy insurance to cover the things we want? Allowing women to get birth control pills will raise my premium too. Allowing men to get Viagra also effects my premium. I shouldn't have to pay for any product or service that I don't use.

Also, insurance prices (and healthcare prices) are effected by judgement amounts in lawsuits. Shouldn't we put a reasonable cap on damages?

So what I'm saying is this:

* Decouple Job and Insurance
* Allow Insurance to be purchased across state lines
* Ala Cart Insurance, customized to what the consumer wants.
* Cap in court damages



only if wages are increased to make up for the power the insurance companies will hold to create even more ridiculous prices for individual policies....

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Sat 03/03/12 11:53 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 03/03/12 11:54 AM




All i can say is i believe the one who can get pregnant should take more responsibility than the one who can't.Are you really gonna just say "hey dude you take responsibility"?I really don't understand why a woman would do this when she is the one that gets pregnant.If he doesn't agree it's easier for a woman to run away with her dress up than it is for a man with his pants down.



Unless you're unaware of how things work, you know that it does take two to make a baby. So why shouldn't both take responsibility? Besides, wouldn't preventing STDs be a good idea as well?
I'm quite aware i have a son that lives with me,but i'm talking about the woman should take a little more precaution.


Again, both are needed to make a baby, so both should be taking the proper precautions if they don't want a baby. But if that flies with the women you're with, good for you.


that is an excellent but inconsistent standard

for our society views the creation as merely the mothers 'body' until it is born and then the law DOES Require both to take responsibility


but I agree, they SHOULD Be taking responsibility before the life is created,,,and no law is going to pass muster to MAKE them do it,,,,

and we are left with HOPING and WISHING more will,,,,,

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Sat 03/03/12 11:51 AM

He said Obama called Fluke to express disappointment about the attacks and "thank her" for exercising her right to speak out.

Where was the outrage and phone call to Laura Ingraham when Ed Schultz called her a slut?
Oh wait Laura is a conservative talk show host so it's ok to demean her.



because someone does something sometimes for some people doesnt mean they should be expected to do it all the time for EVERY person

perhaps he heard more about this and felt empathy for the girls medical condition?


I personally hadnt heard a thing about either of those mentioned in this thread until I read it

we sometimes assume that because we are aware of some 'news' item , that everyone else is,,, when it is often not the case

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Sat 03/03/12 11:48 AM
can anyone point me to where I can find a definition of murder that is synonymous to kill?


cowboy, in the bible it says there is a time to KILL
it also says thou shalt not MURDER


,,they are two different definitions,,, one involving the law and one involving whether a life is taken

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Sat 03/03/12 11:46 AM


All i can say is i believe the one who can get pregnant should take more responsibility than the one who can't.Are you really gonna just say "hey dude you take responsibility"?I really don't understand why a woman would do this when she is the one that gets pregnant.If he doesn't agree it's easier for a woman to run away with her dress up than it is for a man with his pants down.



Unless you're unaware of how things work, you know that it does take two to make a baby. So why shouldn't both take responsibility? Besides, wouldn't preventing STDs be a good idea as well?


in an ideal world, they would BOTH take responsibility

but in this world, We can only control ourself and our actions
and FEW people take realistically the potential of sex to create a life when they lie down together in a world where the sex itself is such a 'necessity',,,,,

so men who do not wish to become fathers should be taking precautions
and women who do not wish to become mothers should be taking precautions as well

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Sat 03/03/12 08:34 AM


If you have a bad Experience why take the chance of repeating that same experience.

I will Not get married again...


so true.but i need a child , a mother for child , a family , a caretaker n homemaker , love n comanion for lyfe.how else to get it.i m marrying simply a poor maid this time so that it is manageable n peaceful.


newsflash: in us culture, marriage is a mere contract,, it doesnt make the relationship

you can have all of that without ever having to be considered legally someones 'husband' or have them be legally your 'wife'

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Sat 03/03/12 08:28 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 03/03/12 08:32 AM

LOL, just remembered the saying 'No glove, NO LOVE'



right? I totally get that.

I dont know in this day and age, why women continue to lay down with irresponsible or selfish men and take the chance of creating a life with them,,,,,

or why men chose to lay down with women of similar character and take that chance


we take more care with our outward appearances (clothes, hair, etc,,) as people than we do with the issue of human life,,,,its sad really

or how a woman can have MULTIPLE abortions,,,beats me
or a man have multiple children with multiple women and not take care of any of them?

or women continue to lay with such men KNOWING this,,,?

the world is a crazy place.


I was with ONE irresponsible man, because I happened to marry him and thought I was too old to conceive

but I thankfully had/have a support system and a lot of love to give a child and had I not, I would have chosen the adoption system over stopping that beautiful life in its tracks,,,,

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Sat 03/03/12 08:26 AM

from a woman of (very) modest means:

being an adult, and sexually active doesn`t give anyone the right to ask for free shi*. pardon my language.

i believe in responsibility and self-reliance. wtf happened to that brand of thinking?





lol,, dont hold back,,,lol

anyway, I think the brand of thinking making this an issue is prevention in the long haul

preventing 'unwanted' children from being conceived and/or born


whether such prevention is a worthy investment for society at large to make it freely available, regardless of income, is what makes it an issue,,,

and the 'equality' issue due to men being able to get their raincoats free at a clinic,,,,,


'if they can do it why cant we,,,' is kind of the equality slogan in modern culture,,,,

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Sat 03/03/12 08:01 AM



You believe women who use birth control for any reason are sluts? Did you even pay attention to Sandra Fluke's story, or are you assuming Rush is giving you all the info you need?

I do believe women have the right to choose if they use it. I also believe they have a right to pay for it. (and not ask it of me).

For my woman I would be willing to pay for a part (if she did not want a child).

Yet Mr. Rush was rude in the way he said it.

It is still important to note.

If she was my daughter I would expect her to be at study in that time of her life.

and not bouncing on beds.

No insult intended.


Narrow minded focus often comes from those who hold a previous bias toward an issue and for those who do not consider the issure critically with a broad lenz.

The narrow mind assumes that birth control used by a woman benefits only the woman and because it's call birth control, it's assumed the woman is promiscuous.

How many women AND their monogamous partner have made that choice together - because they feel their financial situation is not stable enough to bring a child into? Why is that not considered responsible action?

BC is also used for hormonal value and there are many young girls that benefit greatly from this therapy, I did myself. But many parents cannot afford to pay, even a co-pay for medicine.

Responsible sex is not just something a woman needs to consider. Men can say - it's not my problem you got prenant, I'm outta here, because it's the kind of thinking that a lot of men have. The woman gets slammed both, because she didn't use birth control and because she wants to use birth control. MAKE UP YOUR F..NG MINE MEN.

BC is NEVER an issue for only a woman or only a man, there is much more to consider. Those who strongly oppose abortion must also consider that fewer would occur if (the more responsible party) which men seem to be claiming should be a woman, preempts the situation with birth control. But there still that narrow mindset that only women have illicit sex while men are some invisible second party to the act.

EDIT: Let's not forget that pregnancy can also be an accident due to the failure of BC of any kind. We cannot be the judge of such situations (as being an accident or not)and because all medical issues are a private matter - there should never be an unknown nosey party telling anyone that abortion should be illegal.

Abortion is either a legal medical procedure, subject to all the privacy laws over medical procedure, or it is something that is subject prdominantly to a male court review. Those should NEVER be the only two choices in a country that considers half the population (women) equal to the other half.




I think there is a third option here, opposition or not

that abortion is not merely a 'medical procedure', but an action against a human life,,,, in a country where some MIGHT consider that there is a third 'party' involved which is 'equal' to any other human life we try to protect,,,,


as to whether men use protection or not, is a concern for the men, I agree

but neither the man or the woman can claim they had no other options when a pregnancy occurs.....


there is always the option NOT TO SLEEP WITH EACH OTHER,,,,,

and if that is just too hard to do, a man should be spending what it costs him for that cup of coffee at starbucks to diminish the chance that a life may be created and obliterated behind a moment of lust or desire

and a woman should likewise pay that 50 bucks a month to make sure of that same thing


the issue , I think, for most is not that the option is there or that people use it,,,,, the issue is that of who has responsibility to PAY for someone to use that option in such a highly VOLUNTARY type of situation,,,,

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Sat 03/03/12 07:53 AM



I guess I'm not understanding the whole concept of what is going on with it.
I hear people arguing the point that it should be free. If that's the case I ask why?
Then I also hear people talking about it should be available to women.
I wasn't aware that there are women who can't obtain it. Can't they get a prescription from a doctor?
And I would also like to know if women can get it for free then why. Ant men get free condoms?



in general

YES< men and women can get 'free' contraception (condoms and pills) depending upon their income level by going to various clinics who supply such income based assistance

generally, men and women who should be able to 'afford' it within their own income will have to pay for it

a male can get a box of about 12 for 9 dollars , or a little under a dollar a piece

less than what they pay for those daily cigarettes, or cups of coffee , or soft drinks.....MOST can afford this

the pill, however, is a prescription med that one must go through the medical profession to receive and that too is usually income based,,,but ranges from 15-50 bucks a month, or fifty cents to 1.75 per day


less than those junk food items most eat daily,

MOST can probably afford this as well


Actually, all men have to do is walk in a clinic and ask for prophylactics and they are handed to them for free. Women are handed a prescription for the pill no the pills themselves. Men do not have to prove income to ask for the contraception choice and are handed them for free. Women have to prove income to see the doctor and get the prescription that they have to pay for.



this is true, men require no medical check up just to put a raincoat on

and women do require a check up before being prescribed a medication that will be altering their system,,,,,,

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Sat 03/03/12 07:51 AM




I think other problems would arise if birth control was free for women.
What's the possibility of more women getting STD's because they are not worried about getting pregnant so they become more promiscuous. Wouldn't the cost of treating those be more expensive?


Your absolutely right...

SEX is a problem.
STD's are a problem.

Women should be required to wear burka's.
We should follow Sharia law.

That would solve everything.








I dont think there is anything that will 'solve' everything when it comes to those issues.

I dont think anyone here wants to see burkas mandated.

I just think that when you speak of mandates out of peoples pockets, they feel a right to speak up about whether they wish to cover that expense for others or not.

I think a system in which those who can afford 1.50 a day to prevent pregnancy(but nt stds, in the case of pills) cover the costs for said pills and those who cant afford that 1.50 have access to programs where they can temporarily receive it

is the most JUST policy we could implement



You those who can afford them pay for them and those can't have access.
Who's to say who can and can't afford them?
Doesn't planned parenthood offer free BC to those who can't afford them?



yes

as I said, at about 1.500 a day,, MOST people can afford them

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Sat 03/03/12 01:49 AM
the original king james translates as MURDER

there are many places where killing is required and instructed in the bible, so its probably foolish to assume the words mean the same thing in all situations,,,

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Sat 03/03/12 12:25 AM
hmmm

theoretically, yes, because noone is perfect and I could build upon what was right with the relationship before it went sour


realistically, no, because Im just not interested in the potential waste of precious years of life on someone that already showed a propensity to be unfaithful (first husband) or insane (second husband)


id rather move FORWARD

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Fri 03/02/12 10:52 PM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 03/02/12 10:53 PM
great standards


balance is my main attraction

strong but compassionate
intelligent but humble
responsible but adaptable
healthy but not HEALTH OBSESSED
cautious but not paranoid
stern but not a bully,,,,,,



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