what I posted wasnt about 'accidental discharge', neither was the portion of the article I posted afterwards to support it,,,,

but , perhaps I shouldnt bother with my 'bias' (as you clearly have none ,huh?)

yours was so much simpler than mine,,,,lol

exactly

again, love is how we feel for someone

feeling love for someone does not require us to remain in unhealthy relationships, we can love without sharing a life

that is why things 'break up', because even though we may love someone unconditionally, that doesnt negate our unconditional love for ourself and unwillingness to be unsafe or unhappy to 'prove' love to someone,,,

and , as a mother, I can tell you that even if my child murdered someone, I wouldnt stop loving them

we dont have to approve of or even like what someone does to love them, I would be disgusted, hurt, dissapointed, but none of that would keep me from LOVING my child

I dont think thats quite so true

defensive use of a firearm is probably rarely reported and is most likely not involved in MANY Crimes

such as pickpocketing, or jaywalking, or burglaries,,,etc,,,

crimes involving MATERIAL Possessions in the absence of a physical victim would not be relevant to a discussion of 'defensive use' of a firearm


as to the information regarding violence and guns, I gave a common sense example of such information

can someone find flaw with the deduction that if you have a gun you are more likely to be shot by it than someone who doesnt have a gun?


as to information elsewhere,,,

"The issue of "home defense" or protection against intruders or assailants may well be misrepresented. A study of 626 shootings in or around a residence in three U.S. cities revealed that, for every time a gun in the home was used in a self-defense or legally justifiable shooting, there were four unintentional shootings, seven criminal assaults or homicides, and 11 attempted or completed suicides (Kellermann et al, 1998). Over 50% of all households in the U.S. admit to having firearms (Nelson et al, 1987). In another study, regardless of storage practice, type of gun, or number of firearms in the home, having a gun in the home was associated with an increased risk of firearm homicide and suicide in the home (Dahlberg, Ikeda and Kresnow, 2004). Persons who own a gun and who engage in abuse of intimate partners such as a spouse are more likely to use a gun to threaten their intimate partner. (Rothman et al, 2005). Individuals in possession of a gun at the time of an assault are 4.46 times more likely to be shot in the assault than persons not in possession (Branas et al, 2009). It would appear that, rather than beign used for defense, most of these weapons inflict injuries on the owners and their families.
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this is but one example, Im sure I could find several others

and others could rebuttal with dozens of examples of other 'studies' which seem to suggest the opposite,,,,,

maybe not to the rapists family

Ive been the victim, and I wouldnt want that person dead for it,,,

I Agree it was in poor taste

and more of a personal insult than a joke,, in my opinion

jokes are usually general or about a specific person BASED upon something they did or said themself,,,

such a discussion would be futile, because Im sure I can post information stating gun ownership correlates with HIGHER victimization,, and others could find things to post stating gun ownership correlates with lower victimization


one logical deduction, however, is that if you are possession of a gun, you are more likely to be shot by it than someone who doesnt have one,,,,

not just that, but in western culture

less guns equals less GUN death

I dont think its relevant in a gun discussion to talk about ALL Crime

crime can be anything from pick pocketing to jay walking TO violent crime


I think in the discussion about guns, violence is the concern

love can be and is unconditional

having expectations doesnt have an absolute connection to loving someone

I expected fidelity in my first marriage, because I didnt get that I left that SITUATION, but I still love and always will love my ex husband,,,,thats unconditional

a racist is ONE type of bigot, all bigots are not racist

I said he was a BIGOT,,,,

: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices;


Obstinate: perversely adhering to an opinion



he made a rather PERVERSE statement with that joke about a SPECIFIC person (with no personal knowledge about them),,,,that was bigoted,,,,,

Pain is the most common symptom of injury and disease, and descriptions can range in intensity from a mere ache to unbearable agony. Nociceptors have the ability to convey information to the brain that indicates the location, nature, and intensity of the pain. For example, stepping on a nail sends an information-packed message to the brain: the foot has experienced a puncture wound that hurts a lot.

Is it better to be needed or wanted

at this point in life, I have had enough people needing me and am responsible for the needs of enough that being 'needed' is not something I particularly look for in a relationship

ID prefer someone be there because it was their desire to be , not their NEED to be,,,its a big responsibility to be someones need,,,,

well, maybe only those delusionally clairvoyant folks,,,,

well, media is part of our culture, but it cant simply be media because those other countries have similar media available,,,

its how we REACT to the media,,,,

in essence, the difference is in the ATTITUDE of the person/people

did the joke try to imply how vengeful or vendictive someone was,,,because I didnt get that part?

no, because he forwarded a joke implying a SPECIFIC woman would have been willing to sleep with a dog,,,,

I think several of those have a 'social' type structure where the masses have a culture where taking care of the weakest is not a burden = less desperation and less ego

ego, greed, and desperation are pretty much the driving forces for most violence

and we have and promote plenty of the first two in our culture

and we create plenty of the third with some of our policies,,,