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Tue 03/31/09 10:04 AM


its gettin to where the only right you have is the right to *****...its not like if you write to any body anything will get done ..and now about this majority rules bs ..as i see it the majority want our troops out of iraq...so ..kind of takes the wind out of the sails of democracy dont it..its all bs...


Our government does pretty much what it wants, despite their constituents. Sadly most people buy the BS peddled at them and let it go then turn around and vote these jackasses back in office again.

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Tue 03/31/09 10:01 AM
Edited by wiley on Tue 03/31/09 10:02 AM

First and foremost, the parents should also be charged.


I find it ridiculous that anybody is being charged with child pornography over this. I find it even more ridiculous that our court system would seek to place anyone doing this in the same category as pedophiles and serial rapists.

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Tue 03/31/09 09:58 AM

We have a system of politics where the majority rules.


No we don't. This is a republic, not a democracy. The minority clearly rules in some areas via the court system if nowhere else.


It sucks when your wishes are those of the minority, but that doesn't mean you are without representation, or that the outcome on certain issues are unfair either.


And if your wishes are those of the majority and they are still overturned? What then?

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Tue 03/31/09 09:55 AM

Wiley look at what you wrote,

By voting them in office, we trust them to represent us while they are in office.

?????????
If they dont then we also have the opputunity to remove their representative power.


Not really. The only time we have an opportunity is at election time. Other than that, it's up to our other elected officials to seek impeachment to remove someone from office.


Thus we do have Representation. People need to study the issues their represenatives support, and quit voting them in just because theirs is the only name they recognize on the ballot!


Considering that 90% of elected politicians change their positions once they get elected, I'd say that studying the issues they claim to represent is pretty moot. Better to look at their entire career and their voting history if available.


If they dont vote at all, then IMO they lose all right to betch.


Great. So where's the representation for those who vote third party? They voted so they have a right to betch, right?


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Tue 03/31/09 09:51 AM

There are members in congress who smoke. They just happen to be a minority.

The original saying, Taxation without Representation, goes back to colonial times. At that time it was truth. Colonial Americans had no say in their leadership.


And in some cases today, neither do we.

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Tue 03/31/09 09:49 AM

Great views!! Not sure I agree but food for thought.


Again, please anyone....

"I challenge anyone to go look for statistics regarding Criminal Activities commited under the influence of Marijuana. Not including activities being charged with possesion, smoking, growing, or dealing.... (If marijuana were legal would not be issue)

I would really like to see this. I looked and had a difficult time finding anything. "



I suppose it would be difficult to find anything under "under the influence of Marijuana" since there is no specific charge for that. Everything is put under "under the influence of intoxicants" which includes any intoxicant. Whether it is alcohol or marijuana or heroin or what have you...

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to come to the conclusion that being under the influence of any intoxicant while operating a motor vehicle is a crime though.

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Tue 03/31/09 09:46 AM



Why the title?
Dont you vote?


The mere ability to vote does not confer representation by the government.


Sure it does!


I disagree. In fact, there is plenty of legislation passed by our "representatives" that is never put up for a vote by the populace. By voting them in office, we trust them to represent us while they are in office. They don't always do that. Obviously.

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Tue 03/31/09 09:41 AM

Why the title?
Dont you vote?


The mere ability to vote does not confer representation by the government.

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Tue 03/31/09 09:40 AM
I find it funny when people talk about damaging their computer by turning it off when these same people generally replace their computers every 3-5 years anyway. (To keep up with the latest and greatest...) Like they're really intending to keep them around for 100 years or something... laugh

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Tue 03/31/09 09:37 AM

what I'm trying to say is alcohol prohibition is the opposite. it was legal...then illegal. pot is illegaql and wants to be legal


I got that. That's why I'm doubtful it would be handled the same way.

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Tue 03/31/09 09:33 AM

the one difference i see with alcohol prohibition is that alcohol was legal and wide spread and socially acceptable...then it was taken away abruptly. so makes me wonder if the pot issue would be handled the same or not


Doubtful. Personally, I feel that marijuana is much less harmful than alcohol, but that doesn't make it any easier to regulate it, IMO.

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Tue 03/31/09 09:32 AM






I have to disagree on this. Please keep in mind they do have synthetic pot sold in a pill already out there.


Not even close to the same thing. The synthetic is man-made under man-made controls. The natural stuff (that there is talk of legalizing) is no such beast.


My point is legalizing it and going under FDA scrutiny. They will to have testing of it all that is LEGAL. Yes, synthetic is man-made with man-made controls but they did testing to get it to strength. Just like they would if it were legal.


****WINX**** Not really time released. Basically like any drug depends on what is in your stomach...etc. But with that being said smoking it allows better control.


And then what? Keep every possible strain they haven't tested illegal until they do? How on Earth are they going to enforce that?


Probably the same way we approached the legalization of alcohol when prohibation existed. Which btw how many stileries do you see around....Seriously?


Bad example. I live in Oregon. We are the micro brew capital of the world.

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Tue 03/31/09 09:31 AM
There's plenty of it to go around. Oregon taxes the income of non-residents. Oregon continually practices double taxation by taxing the refunds received from the filing of last years income taxes.

And then there was the bailout of AIG, and part of that money used to fund corporations overseas. I don't know about you, but I fail to see how foreign corporations receiving tax money from US citizens is any kind of representation of us at all...

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Tue 03/31/09 09:26 AM


Of course we could just turn Africa into a parking lot instead. That'd be the humanitarian thing to do. End all that suffering.


grumble Thats not nice...:cry:


Of course not. But to hear some people tell it, we're not very nice anyway.

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Tue 03/31/09 09:25 AM




I have to disagree on this. Please keep in mind they do have synthetic pot sold in a pill already out there.


Not even close to the same thing. The synthetic is man-made under man-made controls. The natural stuff (that there is talk of legalizing) is no such beast.


My point is legalizing it and going under FDA scrutiny. They will to have testing of it all that is LEGAL. Yes, synthetic is man-made with man-made controls but they did testing to get it to strength. Just like they would if it were legal.


****WINX**** Not really time released. Basically like any drug depends on what is in your stomach...etc. But with that being said smoking it allows better control.


And then what? Keep every possible strain they haven't tested illegal until they do? How on Earth are they going to enforce that?

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Tue 03/31/09 09:22 AM
Edited by wiley on Tue 03/31/09 09:24 AM
Of course we could just turn Africa into a parking lot instead. That'd be the humanitarian thing to do. End all that suffering. [/sarcasm]

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Tue 03/31/09 09:19 AM


but just like in america...you can talk until you are blue in the face and it doesn't matter. without a cure...it's an uphill battle


An uphill battle is still worth fighting if the lives and suffering of hundreds of millions are at stake.


So instead of dumping time and money into Africa, shouldn't we be working on a cure instead? Just a thought.

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Tue 03/31/09 09:16 AM

The pill, you never know when it will take effect, for how long,


You get that with any drug. Many factors affect pharmacokinetics including weight, age, disease, other medications, etc. etc. No substance on Earth affects two people exactly the same way or even the same person the same exact way every time it is administered.

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Tue 03/31/09 09:13 AM


I have to disagree on this. Please keep in mind they do have synthetic pot sold in a pill already out there.


Not even close to the same thing. The synthetic is man-made under man-made controls. The natural stuff (that there is talk of legalizing) is no such beast.

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Tue 03/31/09 09:11 AM
Watch out Fanta! I think we struck a nerve... laugh