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My point exactly. That is the way I look at things. I hate games.

I am using the term "good woman" to describe a woman who is mentally stable, financially secure, not nagging or *****y, and secure within herself. I do understand what you are talking about here in this case. I agree that a woman has to have her own mind and not conform to the mans personality, that seems to happen often I agree. It is a self proclaimed title as well, even bad women use it to describe themselves just as bad men say that they are "good men".




I agree with this one. One problem is the 'just because' call. You call to much, your seen as clingy.

Too bad we don't have a happy medium on calling. This would solve lots of issues. LOL



I'll agree that not every women is exactly the same. There are alot of similarity's between women and other woman, just as there are between men. Players exist because they learned how to exploit these things to get what they want. Come on, comedians have been making fun of these similaritys for centuries.

Well spoken. I agree



As disrespectful as this is, some guys are just charming. There is a fine line here. It's directly porpotional to your girlfriends jelously. Crossing that line is directly porportional to how hypocrytical the girl is, and how much the guy respects his girlfriend.

I agree, I am refering to the all out "let me get your digits" flirt.



True, however when we talk about things we liked about them or things we missed, you get jelous. Instead, understand men language, we are saying 'we hope your not like this' and 'we are glad your not like this'. Think of this as us opening up to you and telling you please don't treat me like her. If it goes on, just say you won't treat us like our ex, and most guys will shut up.

I agree, but to spend the entire evening talking about your ex is unacceptable to me as well as alot of other women.



The majority of women cut into 'guy time' with the 'just because' call. We also know that the majority of women will talk about their boyfriends when together. If you have a single and unhappy girlfriend, we will have bad things said about us. Infact, most guys know that atleast one of your friends hates us, and atleast one other friend has thought about sleeping with us.

WOW, ok. you are prob right on this one, but the calling every hour to check on us is a bit disrespectful.



There are two types. Jelously, and justice. Jelously is saying they suck when we do the same thing. Justice is saying they suck because there doing something we would never do. You can tell it's justice when the guy actually becomes notably pissed off.

Thanks for answering this one. It has been a mystery.



The majority of women i know don't complament men. Infact, it's almost expected that we complament women every time we go out. we need it just as much as you do. We are just as insecure, we just are taught to hide it better. We fish when we haven't heard it alot, or we don't believe it.

I agree, I compliment my man quite often, and it is sincere when I do. Too bad most women prob don't.



I disagree on this one. Some girls like a certin level of possessiveness. They like it when a guy calls a girl 'his girl', or when they get pissed off at another guy for flirting with his girlfriend. Others don't seem to care. Though i will agree, there is a fine line.


Yes a fine line in deed. I guess I think of being clingy and possessive as taking it to extremes. That reminds me of my ex husband. He was very clingy, didn't have his own hobbies or anything. He would follow me around like a puppy. It was a complete turn off. I like men who like to spend time with their man friends, hunt, fish, and have their own mind.

I like yes men! LOL

I agree with just about everything ya said there except a few things, but the differences between men and womens opinions will never change. And even if they did, how fun do you think the world would be?? It just wouldn't in my eyes.

Have a good day as well. I am going to go home this morning and hit the sheets for some well deserved sleep.

That is unfortunatly true. I have seen this happen over and over again. I will tell you that it is gold diggers that give good honest women a bad name. I have nice things and am in no way hurting for anything. I have been dumped before plenty of times for women that were gold digging and didn't have a pot to piss in. It seems as if some men would prefer to be that "provider" than to have an equal. Why is that exactly?

With nice wieners

I can only speak for myself on this one, but YES a nice guy is what I am looking for.

Exactly.... It makes me think that sex is the only thing they are interested in. I want someone to like me for my mind first and foremost.

Something else that scares me away, not sure if it is like this for every woman, but....

When a man automatically assumes that you are going to sleep with them on the first date. It always make me think that mmmmmm They are accustomed to doing this, I wonder how many women they have been with this month. LOL

That is pretty scary to me!

Wow, I never really thought of it like that. You are correct in so many ways. I have noticed that having a relationship where both people say they aren't going to play games, there is usually tension created by one or both no matter what. It may not be the traditional "game playing", but it creates tension none the less. That makes for drive in wanting that person more in my opinion.

That sounds like a good deal!

Well this thread didn't go where I thought it would go. LOL

I guess what I was getting at is the point in which a person starts questioning "Should I run?" when dating. (And in no way is this considered nursing or medical! LOL) It is the same for men and women alike as I said earlier. I have been on a few dates where my date has gotten the phone number of the waitress for later and talked bad about their ex's all evening. That is what made me run. Everyone has their experiences. I would just like to share. Maybe someone could gain some insight on this. I looked at the list of things that men had listed on the other thread and found that I have done a few. If I can find what I am doing wrong and change it then maybe I will be more successful in finding and keeping someone.

Everytime I hear your voice I get excited. When I am with you I am secure and safe. Your strong arms and love you have for your children melts my heart. When it's late and time for bed and I am with you, I still get nervous and anticipate your kisses and the way we make love. I can feel what we have for each other in my chest. It tickles and crushes at the same time. I hope it never ends.

I am not into dominating men. I like to be on bottom most of the time.

Yes I agree. Funny how he is all "Off with her head" LOL If ya can't take the heat then get out of the kitchen.

Thanks, you are my new best friend. Isn't it amazing how people show their true colors. LOL

Thank you. That is what I intended.

Darn! I really like shoes too. Especially strappy ones. I promise to be good if you take me to get some shoes.