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I found your read very interesting Crystal... Because South Africa has a strong connection with the Dutch via Jan van Riebeeck (Dutch explorer and considered the founding father of Afrikaaners), there is always a great deal of support for the Dutch at the World Cup. One of my cousin's has always supported Netherlands. And, when they were in the finals in 2010 as the host nation for the World Cup, many South Africans felt compelled to support the Dutch because of the history and the legacy. Ethnically speaking the Afrikaans People are mainly Dutch, right? Or do they consider themselves to be a separated group? You are correct that Afrikaaners are of Dutch heritage. There are a group who are mixed race like me, known as "Cape Malay" under the Apartheid government. Malaysians were shipped to the Cape as slaves back in the day, so under those circumstances the Malay people adopted the Afrikaaner language and it's customs. But, the use of the term "Afrikaaner" is a specific reference to African people of Dutch heritage. So that means you aren't referred to as "Afrikaaner"? Now if I may ask, aren't there lingering ill feelings towards the white people in SA because of the history? After all it's not that long ago. My dad went to SA in the 70s by himself to see if he could find work there after which we'd likely emigrate. He was shocked by how the non-Caucasians were treated! So only 55 years ago the situation was bad. And I cannot recall exactly when this apartheid shizzel ended, I think in the 90s? Meaning only 35 years ago. When looking at the US and how difficult things still are there between black & white... it takes a long time for things to change. As in really change. Now I don't know if there's a difference in this between Malay and African people. But just wondering to what extent things have truly become (more) equal? Correct, I'm not referred to as "Afrikaaner". Actually, I have a different classification to "Cape Malay". The old regime had about 6 variants of racial identification between white and black that is for mixed race and brown people. Many people still use these identifications whilst others don't care for it. My own mother and I share different classifications even though, she too is of mixed race. It was a messy and complex situation. The objective was to "divide and conquer" under the old system. So, for example Elon Musk has stated that he is not Afrikaaner as he is of British descent (and, not Dutch). Yes, your feelings are definitely correct in terms of lingering feelings of animosity. Our democracy is the same age as Justin Bieber (1994). Actually, Justin Bieber is a couple months older, so it's still new and there are definitely high levels of animosity towards "the white man" especially 'the Boer' (Afrikaaner farmers), a situation, which Donald Trump has capitalised on on recent years. Nelson Mandela tried desperately to ensure that it was a peaceful transition into democracy, but the feelings haven't disappeared... I think the feelings will be around for a long time. Currently (beyond the internal issues), there are terrible xenophobic attacks happening against African foreign nationals in the country... It is a situation I could only describe as "hurt people, hurt". It's equivalent to what's happening in the US with the force removals by ICE, but it's not happening to European foreign nationals, only Africans. So, whilst the internal racial war has simmered the xenophobic one is raging. Our history and current status cannot be painted with one colour, but I believe that if you don't know your history - you're bound to repeat it. The World Cup is a gentle escapism for most people in the country right now. |
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Merry, wow, I never thought of that! Sure nice to hear :) I once came across a small group of Afrikaner friends at work in Australia. I spent quite some time talking to them about the language, SA etc. I had a good time, great people! That's awesome, Crystal! So, great to hear. ![]()
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I found your read very interesting Crystal... Because South Africa has a strong connection with the Dutch via Jan van Riebeeck (Dutch explorer and considered the founding father of Afrikaaners), there is always a great deal of support for the Dutch at the World Cup. One of my cousin's has always supported Netherlands. And, when they were in the finals in 2010 as the host nation for the World Cup, many South Africans felt compelled to support the Dutch because of the history and the legacy. Ethnically speaking the Afrikaans People are mainly Dutch, right? Or do they consider themselves to be a separated group? You are correct that Afrikaaners are of Dutch heritage. There are a group who are mixed race like me, known as "Cape Malay" under the Apartheid government. Malaysians were shipped to the Cape as slaves back in the day, so under those circumstances the Malay people adopted the Afrikaaner language and it's customs. But, the use of the term "Afrikaaner" is a specific reference to African people of Dutch heritage. |
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I found your read very interesting Crystal... Because South Africa has a strong connection with the Dutch via Jan van Riebeeck (Dutch explorer and considered the founding father of Afrikaaners), there is always a great deal of support for the Dutch at the World Cup. One of my cousin's has always supported Netherlands. And, when they were in the finals in 2010 as the host nation for the World Cup, many South Africans felt compelled to support the Dutch because of the history and the legacy.
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the UP UP game
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Stay up
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the UP UP game
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Sneak up
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True Love Ways ~ Buddy Holly & Royal Philharmonic Orchestra
Thank you Slim for the condolences... We are not a football nation, but we try every now and then with the national team. Club football in SA is good though, but we always stumble at national level. |
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the UP UP game
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Pull up
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Keep up
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Upset
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Crying Laughing Loving Lying ~ Labi Siffre
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the UP UP game
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FIFA World Cup 2026
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I'm rooting for the hotness of Cho Gue-Sung (the South Korean striker). ðŸ¤
Seriously, I will always support South Africa despite their lack of talent in football. We are rugby and cricket folk when it comes to our expertise. I always enjoy an under dog such as Côte d'Ivoire and I've always supported Germany since I was a little girl. So, when we get kicked out I have two other teams :)) Germany is my second option. But I've always been fascinated by the Latin American Football more than the European. The Latin Americans are born with three balls. Two in the body and one to play with ![]()
That's a new one... I've never heard that saying. ðŸ¤
I like Colombia and Argentina when it comes to the Latin American countries and Brazil for its anthem. I like the Brazilian team from the 90's especially Ronaldo and Romario. They were rhythmic in their skills. Twinkle toes with hint of samba. Do you have a favourite player, cyrax? |
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the UP UP game
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Rise up
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Dress up
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FIFA World Cup 2026
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I'm rooting for the hotness of Cho Gue-Sung (the South Korean striker).
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Seriously, I will always support South Africa despite their lack of talent in football. We are rugby and cricket folk when it comes to our expertise. I always enjoy an under dog such as Côte d'Ivoire and I've always supported Germany since I was a little girl. So, when we get kicked out I have two other teams :)) |
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Make up
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