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This is just coming out now. These are Obama's remarks at a San Francisco fundraiser Sunday.
They come after he said that small-town Pennsylvanian workers after losing industrial jobs are bitter: “And it's not surprising then they [small-town Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” He said this in SAN FRANCISCO, not Pennsylvania and is calling all small-towners, not just from Pennsylvania, but everywhere gun-totting religious folks who are racists. That is what he is saying. And, anti-trade? Huh? He is anti-NAFTA and trade of that nature. Why would he belittle them for being anti-trade? Thank you Obama, socialist elitist. He is out of touch, he is an elitist being educated in top schools all of his life, much of which he lived either outside the US or on an island in Hawaii! |
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Maybe....but isn't he right?
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Maybe....but isn't he right? Well as a Pennsylvanian that's insulting. |
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Pennsylvanians are NOT anti-immigrant, they are anti-ILLEGAL immigrant.
Cling to guns? His sentiment makes it sound like we are uneducated hicks, and that guns are a great evil, something the American people shouldn't have. Remember who he is talking to when saying this, people in San Francisco. He is playing the anti-2nd Amendment liberal crowd who also have no issue with ILLEGAl immigration. To say all of this in a city that is so incredibly distant from the rest of the US was incredibly stupid, out of touch, and of the liberal elitist nature where they think they are more educated, wise, and enlightened than the rest of Americans. |
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Maybe....but isn't he right? I live in small town USA and if you think generalizing rural America of being raciest, and hating anything that is not like us I have a news flash for you. |
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And, cling to religion? The word cling in the first place has insulting connotation to it. But, to religion? I thought Obama was a religious Christian?
He is really painting a different picture. How about Obama comes up with a great idea to help Pennsylvanians instead of insulting them. Push for the production of further coal plants for energy independence? Push for the tapping of oil in North Dakota, Alaska, and the Gulf, all where there are approximately 2 trillion barrels of oil. We are sitting on an oil goldmine. If were were to tap all of this, and coal, all these people who lost jobs would have plenty of job opportunities. And, we would be energy independent, and high oil prices and energy prices would go down. But no, Obama would never go for that. |
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Edited by
Lindyy
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Sat 04/12/08 07:38 AM
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And, cling to religion? The word cling in the first place has insulting connotation to it. But, to religion? I thought Obama was a religious Christian? He is really painting a different picture. How about Obama comes up with a great idea to help Pennsylvanians instead of insulting them. Push for the production of further coal plants for energy independence? Push for the tapping of oil in North Dakota, Alaska, and the Gulf, all where there are approximately 2 trillion barrels of oil. We are sitting on an oil goldmine. If were were to tap all of this, and coal, all these people who lost jobs would have plenty of job opportunities. And, we would be energy independent, and high oil prices and energy prices would go down. But no, Obama would never go for that. I am from the suburbs of Pittsburgh, PA, and Obama is really walking on thin ice. But, let him continue flapping his jaws. The more he does, the more we can see who he 'really' is. He certainly is NOT a Christian. He knows nothing about PA. The steel industry went out of business decades ago. I do not think we Pennsylvanians are holding on to that, we have more optimistic attitudes, that is, if the democrats in PA would quit taxing us to death! As I was listening to his 'speech' on FOX, it was stressed that he would never say his two-faced arrogant elitist remarks here in Pennsylvania. He is another Kerry, Clinton. Tells the crowds he is speaking to at the moment, what he THINKS they want to hear. Just who is Obama? I am beginning to think that he, himself, is an 'axis of evil.' ![]() Lindyy ![]() P.S. Starsailor: Off topic, but are any of your state reps. doing anything about getting the personal property taxes off of our homes? I keep in touch with mine, Sean Logan, Democrat. Although I am Republican, this guy is great and is doing all he can to eliminate these taxes. One of the few dems I vote for. I wish more Pennsylvanians would speak to their reps and encourage them to get rid of these personal property taxes. |
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Edited by
Starsailor2851
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Sat 04/12/08 08:37 AM
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And, cling to religion? The word cling in the first place has insulting connotation to it. But, to religion? I thought Obama was a religious Christian? He is really painting a different picture. How about Obama comes up with a great idea to help Pennsylvanians instead of insulting them. Push for the production of further coal plants for energy independence? Push for the tapping of oil in North Dakota, Alaska, and the Gulf, all where there are approximately 2 trillion barrels of oil. We are sitting on an oil goldmine. If were were to tap all of this, and coal, all these people who lost jobs would have plenty of job opportunities. And, we would be energy independent, and high oil prices and energy prices would go down. But no, Obama would never go for that. I am from the suburbs of Pittsburgh, PA, and Obama is really walking on thin ice. But, let him continue flapping his jaws. The more he does, the more we can see who he 'really' is. He certainly is NOT a Christian. He knows nothing about PA. The steel industry went out of business decades ago. I do not think we Pennsylvanians are holding on to that, we have more optimistic attitudes, that is, if the democrats in PA would quit taxing us to death! As I was listening to his 'speech' on FOX, it was stressed that he would never say his two-faced arrogant elitist remarks here in Pennsylvania. He is another Kerry, Clinton. Tells the crowds he is speaking to at the moment, what he THINKS they want to hear. Just who is Obama? I am beginning to think that he, himself, is an 'axis of evil.' ![]() Lindyy ![]() P.S. Starsailor: Off topic, but are any of your state reps. doing anything about getting the personal property taxes off of our homes? I keep in touch with mine, Sean Logan, Democrat. Although I am Republican, this guy is great and is doing all he can to eliminate these taxes. One of the few dems I vote for. I wish more Pennsylvanians would speak to their reps and encourage them to get rid of these personal property taxes. Mike O'Pake is my State Senator, he has his own property tax plan. It's not completely dumb, but it will punish the "rich" with rich tax. And thus, they'll just likely pack up and leave like they are doing in coming here from New York and New Jersey. School Property Tax Eliminated "Shift Burden to People With Greatest Ability to Pay" The percentage of how much these people would pay, including those over $400,000, is still lower than that of New York and New Jersey, but by like .4 percent...lol. Here is the full pdf of the plan: http://www.senator-opake.com/Plan.pdf My other represenative is a Republican and he is heavily for the property tax/school tax reform. O'Pake is a senior state senator, and for that I think he has reason to create his own tax plan because his popularity has been on the decline. I forget how many plans are being thrown around now, but people want to be known for taking care of this outrageous property tax fiasco. I am a licensed Realtor in PA, I know very well just how much property tax has hurt the real estate market in this state. Killing the new construction market too, and I'm surprised these big companies aren't pushing to get the property tax issue ended right now. They are hurt most of all. Paying $5,000+ in property and school taxes for a new $250,000 home is insanity. And, many of these homes are TOWNHOUSES, if you are talking single detached, it's much higher. I just checked out one. The new home is $259,000 and the property taxes per year are $11,232!!! Paying that much for new homes are killing the market. People that bought houses in the last few years, many from out of state, who are trying to sell them are unable to because of the taxes. I know for a fact it is because of the taxes. |
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Edited by
Starsailor2851
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Sat 04/12/08 08:47 AM
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Oh and our 'popular' Governor, yeah in Philly and Pittsburgh, cares not an ounce about anyone not in those major cities. Those large cities and others like them are not effected by property taxes because in those places the big companies and industries pay the tax burden and thus personal property taxes are very low.
Rendell ONLY cares about people in the city, because they are of course the largest populous and thus their support is ALL that matters to him and will continue to get him re-elected. Yes, I know some of you may say, but he is governor, this is an issue of the legislature. Yes, that is true, but he does have great influence and could support property tax reform. But, he hasn't and he won't. |
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Obama is a racist. Pure and simple. He has admitted to hating the part of him that is white. Did I say admitted? I meant wrote, it's in one of his books.
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Obama is a racist. Pure and simple. He has admitted to hating the part of him that is white. Did I say admitted? I meant wrote, it's in one of his books. Yanno, if you'd think this through instead of looking for words to take out of context, it might eventually occur to you that growing up biracial in America a few decades ago wasn't such an easy thing. Obviously, he's talking about his struggles with internalizing racism and processing it though self-hatred. In the short book "The Prophet", it's author says "For a divided house is not a den of thieves; it is only a divided house." For someone how frequently quotes the polemicist Ann Coulter and says people have misunderstood her, I'd have thought you just _might_ take this extra step. Now for something _really_ unexpected. This quote was from white supremacist David Duke and appeared this week in The New Republic: " I don't think Obama will be any more negative for the United States than Hillary or John McCain. In fact, we probably have less preference for a European like a John McCain or a Hillary who has betrayed our interests, our heritage, our rights." Try that in your partisan pipe and let me know how it smokes. -Kerry O. |
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Edited by
Lindyy
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Sun 04/13/08 09:39 AM
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Well, Obama's recent remarks about citizens in small towns in Pennsylvania are getting a well deserved smack in the face!
People are not happy with his remarks, even right here on my own street. All the pieces of the puzzle about a man that no one knows anything about are starting to fit together, and the true Obama is starting to take form. And, it is NOT a pretty picture that is forming. Lindyy ![]() |
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Edited by
warmachine
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Sun 04/13/08 11:02 AM
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When Obama makes statements like these, we know who he is pandering to. I'll give you a hint, it's not the average American citizen.
I agree with some of the "liberal" platforms, Like who in the hell am I to tell two lesbians that they can't get married? Our Federal Government can't run anything with any skill, so why trust these bought and paid for politicians to run social issues? However, when you buy in whole heartedly to the right/left, you are buying into a manufactured divisionist tactic. As far as Americans clinging to their guns, Jesse Ventura very recently said: "We have a second amendment for a reason and it's not for hunting and fishing, it's so that we the people have the option of throwing off any government that becomes oppresive." |
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Edited by
Lindyy
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Sun 04/13/08 11:18 AM
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As far as Americans clinging to their guns, Jesse Ventura very recently said: "We have a second amendment for a reason and it's not for hunting and fishing, it's so that we the people have the option of throwing off any government that becomes oppresive." Hmmmmm. Do you really think so? I thought it was for the right to defend one's self. Would you go into a little more detail as to how you came to this opinion? Curious. Lindyy ![]() |
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Edited by
warmachine
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Sun 04/13/08 03:40 PM
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That's a pretty close paraphrasing what Ventura said. He said it on Colbert's show and while I realize that the Colbert report is a satirical show, I've seen and read enough of Former Governor Ventura's statements and writings to know he wasn't just being cute, he means business when he says something along those lines.
Amendment II. A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. When this was written, the militia wasn't some dot-org group or backwoods antigovernment group. It was ordinary men taking up arms to battle against extraordinary odds. I think, as a former Navy Seal, thats where Jesse Ventura comes to this statement and I tend to agree. |
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Obama is a racist. Pure and simple. He has admitted to hating the part of him that is white. Did I say admitted? I meant wrote, it's in one of his books. Yanno, if you'd think this through instead of looking for words to take out of context, it might eventually occur to you that growing up biracial in America a few decades ago wasn't such an easy thing. Obviously, he's talking about his struggles with internalizing racism and processing it though self-hatred. In the short book "The Prophet", it's author says "For a divided house is not a den of thieves; it is only a divided house." For someone how frequently quotes the polemicist Ann Coulter and says people have misunderstood her, I'd have thought you just _might_ take this extra step. Now for something _really_ unexpected. This quote was from white supremacist David Duke and appeared this week in The New Republic: " I don't think Obama will be any more negative for the United States than Hillary or John McCain. In fact, we probably have less preference for a European like a John McCain or a Hillary who has betrayed our interests, our heritage, our rights." Try that in your partisan pipe and let me know how it smokes. -Kerry O. What do I care what David Duke thinks? Oh and wait...HE THINKS JUST LIKE I DO! WOW. I didn't say that Obama would be worse than Hiliary or McCain, I said that he's a racist. He is, that's beyond a doubt. For someone how frequently quotes the polemicist Ann Coulter ![]() I posted one article by her. ONE. Obama called his Grandmother a "typical white person"...if a white politician said "typical black person", he would lose his job (unless he was a democrat...HELLO Senator Byrd!). He threw his grandmother under the bus by calling her a racist to defend his racist pastor. Barack Obama, "Dreams from my father" "It was usually an effective tactic, another one of those tricks I had learned: People were satisfied so long as you were courteous and smiled and made no sudden moves. They were more than satisfied; they were relieved - such a pleasant surprise to find a well-mannered young black man who didn’t seem angry all the time." What's really great about the above quote...is that he's talking about his MOTHER. She talked to him about a friend of his who was caught with drugs and he patted her on the back and told her it was going to be okay and then gave the nugget above. Barack Obama, "Dreams from my father" “Whatever he decided to do, it was his decision to make, not yours, and because of that fundamental power he held over you, because it preceded and would outlast his individual motives and inclinations, any distinction between good and bad whites held negligible meaning.” What's really awesome about this quote is that he was raised by white people! Even his mother, sister and grandparents were appearently bad whites. Those terrible white people weren't so terrible when they were supporting him and putting him through college though. |
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As far as Americans clinging to their guns, Jesse Ventura very recently said: "We have a second amendment for a reason and it's not for hunting and fishing, it's so that we the people have the option of throwing off any government that becomes oppresive." Hmmmmm. Do you really think so? I thought it was for the right to defend one's self. Would you go into a little more detail as to how you came to this opinion? Curious. Lindyy ![]() The first admendment gives us the freedom of speech. The second admentment gives us the right to defend the first admendment. |
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This is just coming out now. These are Obama's remarks at a San Francisco fundraiser Sunday. They come after he said that small-town Pennsylvanian workers after losing industrial jobs are bitter: “And it's not surprising then they [small-town Pennsylvanians] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” He said this in SAN FRANCISCO, not Pennsylvania and is calling all small-towners, not just from Pennsylvania, but everywhere gun-totting religious folks who are racists. That is what he is saying. And, anti-trade? Huh? He is anti-NAFTA and trade of that nature. Why would he belittle them for being anti-trade? Thank you Obama, socialist elitist. He is out of touch, he is an elitist being educated in top schools all of his life, much of which he lived either outside the US or on an island in Hawaii! Taking Hillary's talking points? Interesting to note that 33 hate groups reside in Pennsylvania, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center: http://www.splcenter.org/intel/map/hate.jsp |
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As far as Americans clinging to their guns, Jesse Ventura very recently said: "We have a second amendment for a reason and it's not for hunting and fishing, it's so that we the people have the option of throwing off any government that becomes oppresive." Hmmmmm. Do you really think so? I thought it was for the right to defend one's self. Would you go into a little more detail as to how you came to this opinion? Curious. Lindyy ![]() The first admendment gives us the freedom of speech. The second admentment gives us the right to defend the first admendment. What a fantastic way of putting it! |
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