Topic: 10 questions that every intelligent Christian must answer
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Mon 05/12/08 07:21 PM



No excuses tolerated.


it's good that you say that "wouldee" now will you finally proceed to describe god without sounding delusional? ..either you can or you can't ...remember ..like you said.... no excuses



you're in the wrong thread for thatlaugh

any other day:wink:

But I was the first one to answer your question when you first got here and couldn't argue with that one. Look it up.happy

peace. out

flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile


excuses excuses... but don't worry "wouldee" for I have already "prophetized" that you or any other god fearing person would never be able to answer that question...simply because your beliefs won't let you do so and your religion forbids you to do so and those imaginary beings of yours won't allow you to do so ..which is a perfect example how one's religious beliefs can be used to manipulated them and others into a delusional holy army

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Mon 05/12/08 07:26 PM




No excuses tolerated.


it's good that you say that "wouldee" now will you finally proceed to describe god without sounding delusional? ..either you can or you can't ...remember ..like you said.... no excuses



you're in the wrong thread for thatlaugh

any other day:wink:

But I was the first one to answer your question when you first got here and couldn't argue with that one. Look it up.happy

peace. out

flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile


excuses excuses... but don't worry "wouldee" for I have already "prophetized" that you or any other god fearing person would never be able to answer that question...simply because your beliefs won't let you do so and your religion forbids you to do so and those imaginary beings of yours won't allow you to do so ..which is a perfect example how one's religious beliefs can be used to manipulated them and others into a delusional holy army

let's say you are right for one second for argument sakes.
if christians are not able to answer your question without sounding delusional
how the hell does that affects you in particular?
what is the objective of your crusade of hate?
i have been refraiming from even reading your threads because when arrogance and disrespect reach a point is not worth it even arguing.
again how the hell do you feel personally affected by christians?

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Mon 05/12/08 07:42 PM

let's say you are right for one second for argument sakes.
if christians are not able to answer your question without sounding delusional
how the hell does that affects you in particular?
what is the objective of your crusade of hate?
i have been refraiming from even reading your threads because when arrogance and disrespect reach a point is not worth it even arguing.
again how the hell do you feel personally affected by christians?


funny how you mention crusade of hate ...also I was just wondering do all christians have short term memory loss. or just suffer from amnesia? ..or have you forgotten or just chose not to think about or even remember that once upon a time when christians went around torturing and murdering people or was that a crusade of love ...don't know why people get in a huff when the subject is discuss as to why such a thing could have taken place ...that is one of the things the video was trying to point out

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Mon 05/12/08 07:49 PM


let's say you are right for one second for argument sakes.
if christians are not able to answer your question without sounding delusional
how the hell does that affects you in particular?
what is the objective of your crusade of hate?
i have been refraiming from even reading your threads because when arrogance and disrespect reach a point is not worth it even arguing.
again how the hell do you feel personally affected by christians?


funny how you mention crusade of hate ...also I was just wondering do all christians have short term memory loss. or just suffer from amnesia? ..or have you forgotten or just chose not to think about or even remember that once upon a time when christians went around torturing and murdering people or was that a crusade of love ...don't know why people get in a huff when the subject is discuss as to why such a thing could have taken place ...that is one of the things the video was trying to point out

i will address that later.
you have not answer my question yet.
how do you feel personally affected by the delusion of christians?
i mean you seem to be an intelligent person, so don't deviate from the question i just made.

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Mon 05/12/08 07:53 PM

i will address that later.
you have not answer my question yet.
how do you feel personally affected by the delusion of christians?
i mean you seem to be an intelligent person, so don't deviate from the question i just made.


probably because the question you asked answered itself when you asked how I would be affected by the "delusion" of christians ...delusion being the key word

I explain everything clearly throught-out this thread so just read it instead of asking the same questions over

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Mon 05/12/08 07:55 PM
avoidance avoidance
gotcha!!!!

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Mon 05/12/08 08:06 PM

avoidance avoidance
gotcha!!!!


I guess you do have short term memory loss..I said that christians once tortured and murdered people and this thread shows how that horror could easily happen again with all the delusion going on with imaginary friends ..

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Mon 05/12/08 08:15 PM


avoidance avoidance
gotcha!!!!


I guess you do have short term memory loss..I said that christians once tortured and murdered people and this thread shows how that horror could easily happen again with all the delusion going on with imaginary friends ..

ok.
thanks for being a superhero trying to save humanity from christian delusion.
what's your superhero name?

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Mon 05/12/08 08:28 PM

ok.
thanks for being a superhero trying to save humanity from christian delusion.
what's your superhero name?


superhero?...geez you must went to the movies and saw "Iron Man"..... as usual you are decending the debate to grade school level ..so why don't you instead be the superhero and prove the video wrong and describe god without sounding delusional

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Mon 05/12/08 08:31 PM
have a good night.
my health is not good today, we will be talking another day.

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Mon 05/12/08 08:32 PM

have a good night.
my health is not good today, we will be talking another day.



go to bed or i'll have to walk to florida and put u there myself

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Mon 05/12/08 08:32 PM

have a good night.
my health is not good today, we will be talking another day.



ok..hope you get better

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Mon 05/12/08 08:38 PM


ok.
thanks for being a superhero trying to save humanity from christian delusion.
what's your superhero name?


superhero?...geez you must went to the movies and saw "Iron Man"..... as usual you are decending the debate to grade school level ..so why don't you instead be the superhero and prove the video wrong and describe god without sounding delusional


er funches, no offense but that would be ascending the so-called "debate" to grad school level as it is currently at kinder garden level... laugh laugh


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Tue 05/13/08 02:40 AM




No excuses tolerated.


it's good that you say that "wouldee" now will you finally proceed to describe god without sounding delusional? ..either you can or you can't ...remember ..like you said.... no excuses



you're in the wrong thread for thatlaugh

any other day:wink:

But I was the first one to answer your question when you first got here and couldn't argue with that one. Look it up.happy

peace. out

flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile


excuses excuses... but don't worry "wouldee" for I have already "prophetized" that you or any other god fearing person would never be able to answer that question...simply because your beliefs won't let you do so and your religion forbids you to do so and those imaginary beings of yours won't allow you to do so ..which is a perfect example how one's religious beliefs can be used to manipulated them and others into a delusional holy army



Funches........you wrote here.....and I quote....

<<<<<..... your RELIGION forbids you to do so and those imaginary beings of yours won't allow you to do so ..which is a perfect example how one's RELIGIOUS BELIEFS can be used to manipulated them and others into a delusional holy army...>>>>>>


Hey Funches....just noticed that you are talking about RELIGION and RELIGIOUS BELIEFS here..and NOT Christianity .

And in that case, then yes.....I have to agree......religion DOES sometimes manipulate...and even has been the cause of holy wars.

But you see....we Christians are NOT about "RELIGION" here ..... we're all about CHRISTIANITY.

BIG Difference between the two.flowerforyou

And so therefore, Christians are not deluded by some religiousity here ...cause christianity is about relationship, and not religion at all.

And thru witness of the Holy Spirit living in us , we KNOW God is REAL.
No delusions about it, my friend.

Funches....Don't you think it's about time, You allowed God to become REAL to you too?flowerforyou

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Tue 05/13/08 05:05 AM


er funches, no offense but that would be ascending the so-called "debate" to grad school level as it is currently at kinder garden level... laugh laugh


well "Jenniebean" I try to place the discussion beyond the religious aspect as in terms of human nature to chart behavior and of course believers become easily offended and the debate always show the true rationale of believers as their sunday school programming kicks in and the debate like clockwork decend into school yard level ...

a long long time ago in a post far far away I started a thread here called "can you describe god without sounding delusional" and of course I was attacked called a troll a trouble makers as normally intelligent "miraclously" started acting delusional and like kids


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Tue 05/13/08 05:36 AM

Hey Funches....just noticed that you are talking about RELIGION and RELIGIOUS BELIEFS here..and NOT Christianity .


"MorningSong" ..it's not all about Christianity ..it could be about suicide bombers or kamikaze pilots it about why do society allow an even promotes delusional beliefs and behavior to take place in the society..


And in that case, then yes.....I have to agree......religion DOES sometimes manipulate...and even has been the cause of holy wars.

But you see....we Christians are NOT about "RELIGION" here ..... we're all about CHRISTIANITY.

BIG Difference between the two.flowerforyou



Christianity is just one belief someone add to their life among many other beliefs ..a person that is decent will act decent wheather they are a christian or not and being a christian won't cause someone to be decent if they are not decent


And so therefore, Christians are not deluded by some religiousity here ...cause christianity is about relationship, and not religion at all.


come on "MorningSong" even you can't believe that...Christianity is all about the religion that's why they have "The New Testament"


And thru witness of the Holy Spirit living in us , we KNOW God is REAL.
No delusions about it, my friend.


but yet you can't describe god without sounding delusional


Funches....Don't you think it's about time, You allowed God to become REAL to you too?flowerforyou


if I was going to have an imaginary friend it would be a woman

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Tue 05/13/08 07:09 AM

all that video shows is that intelligent people can be delusional ..I mean how can you convince someone that's delusional that they're delusional especially if they are supposedly intelligent ...don't they suppose to know that they're delusional ...can't they figure that out ..well apparently not ..why? ...BECAUSE THEY'RE DELUSIONAL

take Einstein for instant ..Einstein was supposedly a genius that believed in God but yet present the equation to the military that could destroy the world but yet claimed that he was a pacifist ...now isn't that delusional ...

people believe they have the right to believe what they want to believe and that statement is how you can tell that someone is delusional ..if everyone lived on their own planet each in it's own separate dimension then maybe you can believe what you want but since everyone is stuck together on this planet what you believe will in some form shape of fashion effect others

so if you have a belief and can't rationalize it and claim it was truth or make a claim of faith because you can't rationalize the belief as truth...then you are delusional


Oh that same equation that helps produce power with nuclear power plants? The chinese invented gun powder but the europeans weaponized it.

"By 1942 this effort had become the Manhattan Project, the largest secret scientific endeavor undertaken up to that time. By late 1945, the U.S. had developed operational nuclear weapons, and used them on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

******Einstein himself did not play a role in the development of the atomic bomb other than signing the letter. *****

He did help the United States Navy with some unrelated theoretical questions it was working on during the war.[79]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstien#Atomic_bomb

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Tue 05/13/08 07:53 AM

******Einstein himself did not play a role in the development of the atomic bomb other than signing the letter. *****

He did help the United States Navy with some unrelated theoretical questions it was working on during the war.[79]"


and is that the role that those that claim to be pacifists normally play ..that's like holding an animal's rights meeting after wolfing down some McDonalds hamburgers for lunch and then claiming to be a vegetarian

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Tue 05/13/08 08:10 AM
More evidence of the delusions of man.

That man can discover ways to destroy creation, and insult that which he cannot perform to explain, nor understand. Himself.

Man succeeds to fail to discover, left to his own devices and inventions, that man's purpose is not to overwhelm his habitat but to overcome it.

Instead, man manipulates his environment not only in an attempt to preserve his temporality through his advantage and privilege, but defend that perspective, to the extent that man's collective and dominating presence in his habitat is unsustainable for the effort.

Be it, ultimately, a scorched earth or institutional slavery of his own kind, man is bent on his own destruction.

That, my friends, is not intended by God upon man, but intended by the advantaged and privileged few upon all men.

The disinherited, disadvantaged, and disenfranchised have not learned the lesson being forcibly and violently imposed upon them by the few which hold themselves in higher estimation for their vanity and contempt of those they endeavor to deceive.

The delusion is in the few that have embraced such illusions in their lack of lucid judgement.

The artist that conjured that illusion has not expained the perversion of lucidity which is painting the very picture that is the delusion in and of itself.

None there be, but one , that is lucid.



Now, who is it that holds such an honorable and righteous esteem?

huh








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Tue 05/13/08 08:13 AM
Its nothing of the sort. He wrote letters to the president stating that the Germans were working with this technology and that their were local US scientists doing research on it as well.
The arms race then started. Einstein knew that someone was gonna make the bomb. He merely chose which side he thought would do the least harm with it. He already knew the Germans were slaughtering people left and right.

He may have personally believed that wars should not be fought, and he may have been a pacifist, but he was intelligent enough to know that his ideals wouldn't keep the rest of the world from fighting.

If he didn't write those letters then we may have lost the arms race and Germany could have possibly ruined much of the world as we know it.

Does this mean he is not a pacifist? No, it means he is a great man, because a great man can look past his ideals if it means he has a chance at saving lives (or the world for that matter).