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Topic: stumbled apon this
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Sat 05/31/08 10:14 AM
thought it would make for some interessting conversation http://judicial-inc.biz/Madrid_skyscraper.htm

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Sat 05/31/08 10:35 AM
that is pretty crazy.....

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Sat 05/31/08 10:38 AM
Bring out your tinfoil hats people. And, light up because you need to be a bit high to really feel that site, the intense deep thinking music, and all those lovely pictures.

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Sat 05/31/08 10:41 AM

Bring out your tinfoil hats people. And, light up because you need to be a bit high to really feel that site, the intense deep thinking music, and all those lovely pictures.


drinker Dude,,,,why are you always on the rag,,,,,,!!!!!!!!!laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

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Sat 05/31/08 10:42 AM


Bring out your tinfoil hats people. And, light up because you need to be a bit high to really feel that site, the intense deep thinking music, and all those lovely pictures.


drinker Dude,,,,why are you always on the rag,,,,,,!!!!!!!!!laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh


On the rag? I'm having a blast :D

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Sat 05/31/08 10:42 AM
Or, as Howard Dean would say.... YEEEEEAHHH!

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Sat 05/31/08 11:02 AM

thought it would make for some interessting conversation http://judicial-inc.biz/Madrid_skyscraper.htm


Nothing similar!

WTC-110 stories, thousands of gallons of jet fuel running down as it burned. Jet crashing through support columns

Madrid-32 stories, no jet fuel. No jet!

huh noway noway

madisonman's photo
Sat 05/31/08 11:10 AM
Edited by madisonman on Sat 05/31/08 11:11 AM


thought it would make for some interessting conversation http://judicial-inc.biz/Madrid_skyscraper.htm


Nothing similar!

WTC-110 stories, thousands of gallons of jet fuel running down as it burned. Jet crashing through support columns

Madrid-32 stories, no jet fuel. No jet!

huh noway noway
but a far more intense fire at madrid that burned for 2 days. I can understand why so many people are skeptical, you dont haveto be a card carrying member of the tin foil hat society to speculate about 911

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Sat 05/31/08 11:32 AM



thought it would make for some interessting conversation http://judicial-inc.biz/Madrid_skyscraper.htm


Nothing similar!

WTC-110 stories, thousands of gallons of jet fuel running down as it burned. Jet crashing through support columns

Madrid-32 stories, no jet fuel. No jet!

huh noway noway
but a far more intense fire at madrid that burned for 2 days. I can understand why so many people are skeptical, you dont haveto be a card carrying member of the tin foil hat society to speculate about 911



Please Madison..........noway noway

Next you'll tell us about the obvious explosive charges as they went off!

Fanta46's photo
Sat 05/31/08 11:35 AM
There is no way that a fire fed by office furniture will burn as hot as jet fuel.

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Sat 05/31/08 11:38 AM
Madison...a 32 story building is much stouter than a 110 story building...madrid only had a fire...wtc had planes run into them


u have to be a complete idiot to try to compare the 2 which i suspect u are just that

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Sat 05/31/08 11:39 AM
No name calling!laugh laugh laugh

Its not necessarynoway noway

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Sat 05/31/08 11:40 AM
you're right..it wasn't necessary but i couldn't help myself....i call it the way i see it

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Sat 05/31/08 11:47 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sat 05/31/08 11:48 AM
Lets talk about the core evidence, the explosions you see as the building collapes madison!

Heres what a civil engineer says you are actually seeing!

In Tower 1 the �bulging ripple going down the outside of the skin in advance of the collapsing floors� (Malott p12) could have, in fact, been caused by floors collapsing ahead of the column failure. If it was a flat pancake collapse of the floors, the increasing dynamic weight of the concrete laden floors along with their live loads, hitting each level could easily break the connections to the columns or spandrels on each floor. The tips of the joist ends sliding down the interior face of the columns could have caused the �bulging ripple�; or this moving bulge could have been caused by the air pressure from the bellows effect as the collapsing floors compressed the air which pushed on and bowed out the windows and the aluminum skin covering the columns.

Air pressure created as each floor collapsed upon the one below. A chain reaction, not what the conspiracy theorist explain as obvious explosive charges being set off.

He goes on to give evidence of the same thing happening in older stronger buildings and a well known danger to fireman.

This type of flat floor collapse reminds me of bathroom floor failures in old six story apartment buildings. These localized, progressive collapses were so common, in the Bronx that we would try to stay out of bathrooms during apartment fires. One firefighter reported riding down such a bathroom floor collapse and said it felt like being in an elevator which momentarily stopped at each floor, as each bathroom floor hit the one below and broke the joists.

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Sat 05/31/08 11:51 AM
Im not a civil engineer, but I know where to look for accurate information.
It isnt to the conspiracy web sites that flood the internet!drinker drinker

http://www.icivilengineer.com/News/WTC/Fire.html

Fanta46's photo
Sat 05/31/08 11:53 AM
Mind you its not near as entertaining reading though!!:wink:

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Sat 05/31/08 12:47 PM
Edited by madisonman on Sat 05/31/08 12:48 PM

There is no way that a fire fed by office furniture will burn as hot as jet fuel.
please refrain from insults as you know this topic is all over the net and alot of speculation is going on for good reasone. I would like to point out that comercial jet fuel only burns hot when it is vaporised and injected into the jet engine in its natural liquid form it burns about as hot as kerosene. As anyone with a pair of eyes could see the twin towers were not towering infernos after the impacts. Lets try to keep things logical

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Sat 05/31/08 12:48 PM

Lets try to keep things logical


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Sat 05/31/08 12:52 PM
Edited by madisonman on Sat 05/31/08 12:53 PM


Lets try to keep things logical


laugh
Its funny star how you boo hood about people insulting your topics or thoughts yet here you are once again doing the verry thing you tried to cry "victim"aboutlaugh (laughing icon added for emphisis)

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Sat 05/31/08 12:56 PM
Edited by Starsailor2851 on Sat 05/31/08 12:58 PM



Lets try to keep things logical


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Its funny star how you boo hood about people insulting your topics or thoughts yet here you are once again doing the verry thing you tried to cry "victim"aboutlaugh (laughing icon added for emphisis)


Madisonman, until you involve yourself in logical debate in which you actually do your own research you are maintaining yourself in the crazy nutjob spectrum. You have the title of the copy and paste king of this entire forum for you very very rarely have an original thought or point to make. You copy from some site, paste it here, and make the rest of us debate it while you sit back and then sometimes come in and say the same thing you've said (if it was even your own words and thoughts) over and over again.

How many times can you cover the same topic, input the same issues, till we all get tired over this overplayed nonsense? It's old.

Now go to some site, copy, and paste your response here.

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