Yes, but if you want to justify the use of the "Yellow" light, consider there being unsafe people who speed. Stop and Go. When you see Yellow you either go with the green or go with the red of choice.

We say the things that "Sound" better. It "Sounds" better to have everyone be individuals and be their own person. I will take this to extremes. Do you look at the world? What do you see? Different governments, cultures, and people.... In America for instance (assuming you are American), we desire to be loving and united. How can that be if we do the things that sound nice with Liberal Ideal? Each state would be like a separate country, where those who agree will gather in their own community where we are all separated by ideals.

Therefore, I do believe Absolution is the way to go. It is good to consider all sides, but when it comes down to it, you should find a place to stand, or be the lost soul who takes no part, because they waste their time debating, caught into..... The Grey.



Which goes back to the Stop Lights. You do not Yellow, you either Green or you Red. Do you see?

truth is good but it depends on the situation and how you say and there are many grey areas in life, its never simple as black and white

Life is simple, people make it complicated


There is Life and there is Death. What's so great about that?


There is Right and there is Wrong. What's so complicated about that?


Confused people made up Gray when they blended the two

yep thats true thats why its never black or white, and unfortunatley we cant take the people out of the picture though theres some i know i gladly would

Absolutely. Shades of gray simply means more than two and black and white means only two, and it is alarming to me how often it gets reduced to pedantics by through literal interpretion and suggestion they are mutually exclusive.


Ah, so when the means is wrong, but the end is good, was the means still wrong? Perhaps it depends on the person from whom something was taken. The fun of grays.... At least the diabetic isn't in shock.

Leave it alone people always want to be honest when sometimes you dont need to be.........its just a mess when people do it........

So Faust....are you trying your best for an "actual"
"Policy of Truth"?

It seems some "confessions of the obvious" are going on.

I will confess to aspiring for truth, but in all honesty
not with "absolute" conviction. I DO allow for omission and semantics.

Example: A friend whom I worked with was being stalked by a woman from a different department. The phone would ring and he would say, "tell her I'm not here". and he's a devout Catholic.

I told him that I wouldn't lie for him. So when I picked up the phone I would turn my chair. I would answer psycho stalker girl,
"I don't *see* him right now.

omission:sure semantics:absolutely lie:?????

Yeah Beachfarmer you are on the wrong post for confessions...........uh you make me want to .......no confessions dang it..........

...and the "Altruism" of Robin Hood
Do the pure of heart and intent get an ecclesiastical pardon?

You sure she doesn't want to talk to you...?
You sure she didn't need a moment?
Did she tell you she didn't want to talk to you anymore?

Hhhmmm.... I'll have to ponder this.... But I dunno... Maybe it is the Christian in me or something. ... I mean $#!T... I am not perfect, but then again, I am extreme. Though I now there is Gray, Gray to me should be the rule of exception, while Black and White remain equal in size. This can be looked upon as gray, but I see the world allowing Gray to be bigger than the two. If that is the case, then what is Right and what is Wrong? It would be Chaos.... Kind of like how people lose morals, and the world grows more fierce, and people become more separate, like Churches segregating. Things that were one looked upon as sacred are a joke. And I listen, I hear people rebelling against the "Old Ways". And for what? To "Feel" better, but I see no good being spread about in a positive aspect, rather I see our destruction and demise.

I guess I will give up on this one then. Maybe I am just crazy.

Ugh you guys are typing far too much... I need a more asinine thread

Finding an absolute place to stand guarantees conflict because some will choose one side, and some another, and there will never be a winner because there is no authority on who is right. If two or more groups have inflexible absolutes in direct conflict, there will not be peaceful coexistence.

The two or more groups fail to realize that the others' absolute positions are no less valid than their own, so instead of taking this to mean that both equally valid absolutes in conflict must mean both are invalid and dropping them, they kill each other. When absolutes are abandoned all of sudden it's a lot easier get along with your neighbors and agree with a common perception of the real world, because everybody is working with the same information. Subscription to an authority dictating absolutes is the point where things begin to break down because there can be no winner other than elimination of the other viewpoint or avoidance of the point of contention altogether, i.e. isolationism.

NO DON'T!!!!!

and Voluptuous reminded me that I'm an ego-maniacal philosophy whore.

I guess the question for the heartache at hand is....

If you had a chance to say things differently, would you?