The TRUTH will be REVEALED

it is simple, tribo.

excuses seek excuses, not reason.

Reason with the scriptures and seek the Lord for yourself.

He will show you the truth.

Then you may find congruity with us.

But proof is not our burden.

proof that your view is correct is your burden.

By your own admission, it has failed to bring the truth to bear in your heart.

You say you were one of us, and left.

That is a lie.

You know it, I know it, and God knows it.

That means Jesus knows it. Jesus is God.

Yet, you retain the dismissed and dismiss the retained of the Lord.

You make no sense to yourself.

And I should be surprised that I make no sense to you?

You mock me further asking me for proof.

I gave you the direction to seek the Lord for proof.

you duck that.

What more do you expect from me?

Accesson to your whimsical folly?

You hear what you want to hear and duck out on acting on the advice given you.


excuses, tribo, excuses.


Josephus and the futurists have been discredited long ago.

There is nothing there, tribo.


Seek God and come to Jesus for answers, not to men that excuse Jesus and His promise of the Holy Spirit being sent into your heart in His name.


Start there tribo.

That is your first and only work.

We, the Church, shall show you the love and the comfort of the mystery and all the rest as the Lord leads by the Holy Spirit in echo of His leading in your life, should you be apprehended of this at all.

Short of that, the proof of your restful state in God's truth is something other than in Jesus.

To that, I cannot speak.

It is not my business. tribo.

But the doctrines of excuses have given you nothing. That is certain.

It is not my business to coddle you in that dismay, it is your business and the business of your inept teachers who have swayed you into a dead end of nothing.

enjoy your pursuit, it may be a life long one, fruitless as it is.

learn, grow, and then be at ppeace.

it is not my pursuit Wouldee, nor my lifelong intentions to show you your misgivings in this matter or others. i just wish you all would see the folly of your belief's not - well so be it, I'm at peace W, have been for quite some time, if you are also? then so be it. i will continue to refute the idea of futurist holdings till someone can show me in scripture where the preterist are wrong, so far nothing but off subject responses, but i figured there would be no less than this. instead deb starts a new post shoeing her beliefs to continue to be wrong as usual, par for the coarse.

feralcat........did not your jesus say to not think in advance what one would say, nor even to pre-mediatate what one would think, so the half-truth your mind whisper, you have not seen as a good truth, and do not see that "father they know not what they say" was not a curse, but rather a prophecy of good, but since your mind spoke it as meaning of blindness, then this be upon yourself in the manner it was spoken.......

all things that come to you from truth, you deflect outward, and see not these words of condemnation from your mind are meant for yourself, and not for others........

your heart does not yet speak, but rather the mind with only words the mind remember, and these have you not heard have no power but to condem oneself, for do you not remember that in the text you quote and mislead with, that all words spoken come forth as ones own judgment, or as redemption, as it was spoken the power of life and death be on the tongue.......

put another to death with words, then death come to yourself.....is this not all the text you declare to represent, and if you represent, than certainally you know the meanings of all..........

what can be saved that say it be saved, as to profess what was said to come ONLY as a gift from your own text, surely show no heart can EVER declare itself to be saved if it is, as there be no need..........

only righness of the mind lead all others to MORE effort, when each be already perfect, and only need to be shown how, that none have sinned any more than jesus himself........

if anger be a sin, then jesus has sin

if malice was a sin, than jesus had sin

if jealousy was a sin, than jesus had sin

if sex was a sin, than jesus had sin

if vanity was a sin, than jesus had sin

if selfishness was a sin than jesus had sin

"for i have felt in all ways as you" this is from your own text, and was spoken by jesus to help each to KNOW that EACH has felt the sting of fear that they be not saved, but to pay heed to it by trying to save oneself only damn oneself until the effort of trying to save oneself be laid down..........for he has mercy upon whom he has mercy, and this none choose but GOD........

was it not written that GOD so loved the world, not jesus, as even when jesus walked he did not have YET the fullness of the father, which was PERFECT LOVE, or he would never have even asked for any cup to pass from himself........

you do not hear the meaning of the words you say to believe, which are all that even jesus spoke.....

you seek to put all in the same bondage you are in, and as a slave try to earn merit from a friend, and turn him into a master of FEAR......

you make a man to be god, when even jesus himself said he was just a sheep as well.....for it was spoken it seem that "all WE like sheep have gone astray"

seems he did not leave "himself" out, but this of course will be resisted as this shake essence of the TREE OF THE MIND of all SELF PORFESSED CHRISTIANS, that wish to make ONESELF BETTER THAN ANOTHER, so as to feel comforted that saving be had......

THIS CANNOT SAVE YOU MY FRIEND, AS THIS ONLY KEEP ONE CIRCLING AS A BUZZARD FEASTING ON DEAD MANNA ONCE DELIVERED, TRYING TO SAVE YOURSELF WHICH ONLY KEEP YOU FROM SEEING YOU NEED NOT SAVING TO BEGIN WITH, but only to hear what remove fear of being first lost.....

since you declare others to be lost, than this be your present condition, and since it now be spoken in clarity, the fullness of this will be made known.......

was not even the manna or "daily bread" to be burned each day, the same as to say that no truth if it be your "daily bread" from above will ever repeat, but always be as fresh, so then as NEW words......

if one think the mind can decide what words it believes, it decieves itself, and sees not that all words are delivered to the heart not by ones own decision.......

to say it is not so does not change anything, as if you be saved already from your minds self, than all words to prove these untrue would be had, and that cannot be done in this lifetime or the next.........

but then we both know that you have not, and even now we can see into the heart, and that all those in your own home you do not love, but rather have scorned and put all second but yourself, and your agenda to be as a spiritual leader to many, make you silly with delusions of the mind.............peace