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Topic: 9 more mothers to start greiving
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Sat 07/19/08 02:36 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sat 07/19/08 02:46 PM


You think Afghanistan is an illegal war?
Wow!

They should start the draft. A volunteer Army is ok for peace-time, but in war every American should sacrifice equally.
If they did you wouldn't have all these Arm chair Generals and housewives sitting around complacent as America Patriots die.

Too many people in this country just take, take, take, never giving back. Why should a few Patriotic and brave volunteers and their families have to carry the burden for everyone?

Iraq, I'll agree is an illegal war. It has been a distraction from the real reason Americans were willing to engage our military in combat and send our young men into harms way. The Taliban who were ruling Afghanistan with terror and their Al Qaeda guests who attacked Americans on US soil was the reason.

Regardless if we pull out of Iraq or not. Our brave men and women and their families are tired. To ask of them to continue redeploying time and time again at the pace we have is crazy and selfish.
Its destructive to their moral and mental health, and while they sacrifice everything, there are 100 times as many who sit on their privileged asses and do nothing. Half of them couldn't even point to a difference in the two countries or our reasons for being there.
Recruiters cant meet their goals and are resorting to allowing criminals and drug addicts enlist. I'm all for pulling the troops out of Iraq and prosecute Bush and his cronies, but to ask them to continue their sacrifice and jump from one war right into another is asking too much. Many of these soldiers have already served 5 tours in Iraq.

Draft! Draft! Draft! Draft! Its time for all to shoulder the burden, and go after our real enemy!



Not many will agree with you on a draft.

This war has cost over. 2 trillion already, over 4000 American lives and estimated 20,000 -100,000 wounded. There have been 1,236,604 Irai deaths due to the invasion of US. http://www.antiwar.com/casualties/

Israel is threating a strike on Iran and I believe this will lead to more violence in Iraq, or more of our soldiers dying because of lies, greed, and to protect Israel. And instead gaining any respect from our allies, we would lose it even more. Russia would likely supply Iran with weapons to cause more conflict and continue to kill our soldiers in Iraq.

I'm not sure if it is just for politics but the minister of Iraq is asking for a timetable for withdrawal. It must be what the constuients want anyway.
Just like the constuients of America want our soldiers out of this war of lies and greed. Our soldiers never volunteered to be lied to for war anyway.

I just watched the Documentary No End in Sight of how these bumbling idiots in suits messed this war up so badly and wouldn't listen to anyone who knew more about it.

I will give this link because I find it interesting and it will make you think about the world affect this war of greed and imperlism has created. The only way to win is to accept that imperilism is not going to work.

http://www.democracynow.org/2008/2/26/noam_chomsky_why_is_iraq_missing


I agree. The war in Iraq was unnecessary from the start, and the Iraqis dont want us there.
They never have though, and for Bush to suddenly do a 180 has to involve an ulterior motive.

They are trying too hard to convince the American Public that their reasons are based on an improved security situation.
As soon as the Iraqis said the Bush Administration's long term security agreement (permanent US bases) would be dependent on a time table for reducing forces in Iraq, every Tom **** and Harry came out in the press trying to convince Americans that it was right in line with their policy all along!

Bush, Petraeus, Malaki; everyone except McConfused (I think they forgot to tell him), has suddenly changed their mind. All at the same time?noway That is just too coincidental for me.

The idea of a time table for removing US troops, and the agreement to maintain permanent US bases in Iraq is a contradiction of its own and I'm not falling for it.

I think it is just politics intended to get the agreement signed before Bush leaves office and the NOV elections. Combined with the deteriorating situation in Afghanistan, again, right before the elections.

The situation in Iraq currently is directly related to Sadr's calling his militia down so his party can get more seats in parliament in Oct. Not so much from Bush's surge or the success of the Iraqi military!

Sadr's goal has always been to be rid of American forces and a return of rule to the Iraqi people. The puppet Malaki's survival depends on a continued US military presence, and keeping Sadr's party from gaining those seats in Parliament.

If Sadr's party gains more seats Malaki will be voted out and someone more in line with his goals will be put in his place. IMO, That is Sadr's main plan (plan-A) and both Bush and Malaki know that. They will do anything to keep it from happening. (Iraqi politics)

If he is unable to accomplish gaining seats in Parliament, and Bush draws troop levels down, transferring them to Afghanistan. ("where without a draft they will be locked in, and unable to return anytime quick.")
Sadr will turn his militia loose, and Iraq will renew the civil war that was the reason for most of the violence before the surge. (Plan-B)

Malaki needs that agreement signed to survive.
Bush needs it signed to ensure the next President will be obliged to act! (Hopefully McConfused in his mind;- American Politics)
If not Sadr wins which (IMO) eventually, he will anyway!

Bush will leave office saying, see like I said all along the troop reduction was a bad idea! And, McConfused will say, I told you a time-table was a bad idea.

If it happens before Nov, every Republican in America will jump up and down thumping their chest and proclaiming the Democrats are stupid.
More Politics just in time for the Nov elections. Either way, in Bush's world, the Republicans will look like the wise and sure way to vote!

Hopefully Im wrong, but what do the Republicans have to lose?
It looks like a sure bet right now that they will lose the elections anyway!

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