Topic: 9 more mothers to start greiving
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Sun 07/13/08 03:32 PM
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Sun 07/13/08 04:32 PM



Bring them home Mothers!!

Dont join the ever-increasing number


Wars are stupid .
Wars are hell .
Wars are insane .
Help stop them .
Help spread peace and love everywhere .
LOVE......................................PEACE.


To everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
A time to KILL and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up....
-- Ecclesiastes 3: 1-3 (KJV)


If Someone attacks you, you can't expect to survive in this world if you do not ever retaliate. This is the mentality of those we are against now. I agree not enough thought has been given prior to our attack on either Iraq, or Afghanistan, and war is hell, and should be avoided until violence is threatened. But sometimes in this world you have to do what you have to do.

These are basic survival instincts, its how any species survives. By nature if we never picked up a weapon for any purpose, and did not defend ourselves when in danger, our species would no survive.

I urge you to take what i say into consideration and exercise some critical thinking. In this world assumptions can be detrimental.


Robots do not teach me politics or religions .

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Sun 07/13/08 04:32 PM



Bring them home Mothers!!

Dont join the ever-increasing number


Wars are stupid .
Wars are hell .
Wars are insane .
Help stop them .
Help spread peace and love everywhere .
LOVE......................................PEACE.


To everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
A time to KILL and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up....
-- Ecclesiastes 3: 1-3 (KJV)


If Someone attacks you, you can't expect to survive in this world if you do not ever retaliate. This is the mentality of those we are against now. I agree not enough thought has been given prior to our attack on either Iraq, or Afghanistan, and war is hell, and should be avoided until violence is threatened. But sometimes in this world you have to do what you have to do.

These are basic survival instincts, its how any species survives. By nature if we never picked up a weapon for any purpose, and did not defend ourselves when in danger, our species would no survive.

I urge you to take what i say into consideration and exercise some critical thinking. In this world assumptions can be detrimental.


Robots do not teach me politics or religions .

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Sun 07/13/08 04:57 PM

Our soldiers did not choose to go fight a war that was not ours but have to go where they are told to go. Yes they are dying for an unjust reason and they all should be sent home before another dies for an unjust cause.. a war that is not ours!

I just started dating a wonderful man that is about to retire after 25 years in the Army and I would just die if he was sent over there to fight for something that is none of our business. Those animals will continue to kill one another long after our troops are pulled out!


The real animals are those who leave their country and go and kill innocent people very far from their homes .

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Sun 07/13/08 08:14 PM


Our soldiers did not choose to go fight a war that was not ours but have to go where they are told to go. Yes they are dying for an unjust reason and they all should be sent home before another dies for an unjust cause.. a war that is not ours!

I just started dating a wonderful man that is about to retire after 25 years in the Army and I would just die if he was sent over there to fight for something that is none of our business. Those animals will continue to kill one another long after our troops are pulled out!


The real animals are those who leave their country and go and kill innocent people very far from their homes .


You have no critical thinking ability at all. You don't even TRY to think. All you do is assume without any justification. BTW idiots don't teach me about politics either. You have obviously been very sheltered in your life and have no clue what the real world is about. No offence or anything, but you have some waking up to do.

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Sun 07/13/08 08:24 PM
Those animals will continue to kill one another long after our troops are pulled out!


Why are they animals?

What makes them less than you?

You have extremists in your country (in fact one sits in The Big Chair) and so do they.
You spend more on getting your hair done in one session than the majority of people over there earn in a year.

They are poor the majority have no education. This doesnt make them animals.
Then someone with a f'k-off big army comes over looking for someone they have no idea of his whereabouts and starts killing them

What do you think? They are just going to let you?

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Sun 07/13/08 08:29 PM



Our soldiers did not choose to go fight a war that was not ours but have to go where they are told to go. Yes they are dying for an unjust reason and they all should be sent home before another dies for an unjust cause.. a war that is not ours!

I just started dating a wonderful man that is about to retire after 25 years in the Army and I would just die if he was sent over there to fight for something that is none of our business. Those animals will continue to kill one another long after our troops are pulled out!


The real animals are those who leave their country and go and kill innocent people very far from their homes .


You have no critical thinking ability at all. You don't even TRY to think. All you do is assume without any justification. BTW idiots don't teach me about politics either. You have obviously been very sheltered in your life and have no clue what the real world is about. No offence or anything, but you have some waking up to do.


... and this comes from someone who wants to enforce martial law, shoot people, and enslave them because they are allegedly all in a plot to overthrow the United States ...

I think you need to get your head out of the sand and get a grip on reality

You think its ok to die over there? Thats fine and dandy, but dont you think you should question why you are doing it?

You are not hunting rebels. You are "liberating" a people that are happy in their ignorance so that shrub jnr can get himself a legacy.

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Sun 07/13/08 08:33 PM

Those animals will continue to kill one another long after our troops are pulled out!


Why are they animals?

What makes them less than you?

You have extremists in your country (in fact one sits in The Big Chair) and so do they.
You spend more on getting your hair done in one session than the majority of people over there earn in a year.

They are poor the majority have no education. This doesnt make them animals.
Then someone with a f'k-off big army comes over looking for someone they have no idea of his whereabouts and starts killing them

What do you think? They are just going to let you?



I agree with Belushi...........why do you have to call other animals.......thats an ignorant assumption about someone elses culture.........its really uncalled for and there is no justification for it..............they are people just like you and they want to live just like you............so what if they have a different religion and culture that doesnt mean that they are animals.........thats offensive and quite childish to assume because you are unfamiliar of someones culture you have the right to call them animals...............i dont think so .........huh

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Sun 07/13/08 11:33 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sun 07/13/08 11:43 PM


Explain the use of click and paste before or after you explain how voice recognition experts have confirmed his voice on recent audio recordings.
Even his closest relatives say he is still alive. One report from a French Journalist doesn't confirm diddly belushi!


You are right about my use of the cut and paste, but this is one article of many saying that there have been witnesses to his death from liver failure.
... and this was only used as a sub-discussion with Dragonness
Plus President Musharraf of Pakistan has also confirmed Osama is dead. So that's two. How many do you want?

... and of course his relatives say he is alive. It is a way of keeping the rank and file true to the cause.

As soon as the King is dead the troops defect or give up.
Standard classical tactic



Even if, lets say this lone French Journalist is correct, didn't you just report 9 Americans were killed by Taliban militants?
Have they surrendered?

I said dead or surrendered. Osama is a goal, but its not just him its all the Taliban that we battle.


But the problem is that the Taliban is like the Irish problem we had.
Every man of an age to fight can say that he is Taliban for this week and then change his mind.
It is not cut and dried who the Taliban is.

If you cut off the head of the monster, like Hydra, it will just spread.

All you are doing is continuing the cycle of hate.

how can they or the US grieve when it is never ending?

.. and that preposterous idea of going house to house and mountain to search out the Taliban is as non-sensical as the ability to root out Osama himself


The Taliban are not the Afghan majority.
They are a group founded by Osama bin Laden and are not even close to the traditional Afghan's. They are mostly made up of two tribes who have sought to establish their own sovereign country since the British redrew the borders right through their traditional tribal areas. The Taliban prey on this fact, and the Pakistanis, who do not wish to give up any of their land for this new country have helped them in hopes of keeping the peace in their country.
The Afghans have asked us for help way before the Taliban existed. The Afghans before the Russians invaded in 78 had a government with a King and a Parliament of elected officials. Women could vote and get an education. The Taliban (a minority) seized control after the Soviet withdrew and the puppet government they left was defeated.
The Northern alliance is a more accurate definition of true Afghan tradition and made up of a majority of Afghan tribes. They are the ones who helped us overthrow the Taliban and who rule now! They had been embroiled in conflict against the Taliban to regain control of Afghanistan since the fall of the Soviet dominated government in Kabul shortly after the Soviet withdrawal.
The Afghan People hate the Taliban as much as us, and to compare this battle to the problems the British had with the Irish is not just nonsensical but ridiculous and preposterous.

I could agree with the idea that this conflict might be stopped by both Iran, Pakistan, and Afghanistan negotiating to giving up land for the formation of a new country, but that is for them to decide with the Pushtun people. Pakistan doesn't want to give up any of their land. The Afghans, and Iranians have always been willing to discuss it, and the Taliban feeds off the dreams of these people having a homeland of their own!
The Taliban has no legitimate side in the argument period and can be defeated.

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Sun 07/13/08 11:54 PM
Edited by Gypsy41 on Sun 07/13/08 11:55 PM
Have we stopped the war yet??? Again people.......when are you going to wake up and smell the coffee???? You are being dictated to and what you want will be dictated by the govt!!! Hmmmmmmmmm I smell something very wrong with this picture.......noway

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Mon 07/14/08 12:36 AM


Those animals will continue to kill one another long after our troops are pulled out!


Why are they animals?

What makes them less than you?

You have extremists in your country (in fact one sits in The Big Chair) and so do they.
You spend more on getting your hair done in one session than the majority of people over there earn in a year.

They are poor the majority have no education. This doesnt make them animals.
Then someone with a f'k-off big army comes over looking for someone they have no idea of his whereabouts and starts killing them

What do you think? They are just going to let you?



I agree with Belushi...........why do you have to call other animals.......thats an ignorant assumption about someone elses culture.........its really uncalled for and there is no justification for it..............they are people just like you and they want to live just like you............so what if they have a different religion and culture that doesnt mean that they are animals.........thats offensive and quite childish to assume because you are unfamiliar of someones culture you have the right to call them animals...............i dont think so .........huh
flowerforyou Tanzkity and Belushi are right.flowerforyou That kind of thinking is what is causing all of these wars.:smile: All of the worlds cultures are guilty of it.:smile: And if it doesnt stop its gonna get the whole human race wiped out.happy

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Mon 07/14/08 12:37 AM

Have we stopped the war yet??? Again people.......when are you going to wake up and smell the coffee???? You are being dictated to and what you want will be dictated by the govt!!! Hmmmmmmmmm I smell something very wrong with this picture.......noway
bigsmile I would have to agreehappy

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Mon 07/14/08 01:21 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Mon 07/14/08 01:21 AM


Have we stopped the war yet??? Again people.......when are you going to wake up and smell the coffee???? You are being dictated to and what you want will be dictated by the govt!!! Hmmmmmmmmm I smell something very wrong with this picture.......noway
bigsmile I would have to agreehappy


Fanta is right!
He knows the history of Afghanistan and has not told a lie about it. We are not fighting the Afghan people we are their allies against an ideology that is new to their culture and unaccepted by the majority of Afghan people!

Toot Toot!:wink:

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Mon 07/14/08 01:25 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Mon 07/14/08 01:27 AM
What I wrote was only a brief. The whole story could not be explained in 1500, 2500, or even 6000 words. I know Ive tried, and all I covered in my attempt was approx. 200 years!

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Mon 07/14/08 02:05 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Mon 07/14/08 02:06 AM
KABUL (Reuters) - A Taliban attack that killed nine U.S. soldiers, the biggest single American loss in Afghanistan since 2005, was a well-planned, complex assault aimed at overrunning an outpost near the Pakistan border, a NATO spokesman said.

The Taliban have largely shied away from large-scale attacks on foreign forces since suffering severe casualties in assaults on NATO bases in the south in 2006. Instead the militants have scaled up hit-and-run attacks and suicide and roadside bombs.

"It was a complex attack, well organized and planned ... it was clear they wanted to overrun the combat outpost," said Captain Michael Finney, spokesman for NATO's International Security Assistance Force (ISAF).

The Taliban began the assault on the Afghan army and ISAF outpost in the mountainous and thickly forested Pech Valley district of Kunar province just before dawn on Sunday, warning villagers to leave their homes before the fighting started.

"They chose their positions well. It wasn't just an attempt to rush the gate," Finney said.

The defenders, numbering between 100 to 150, called in airstrikes from attack helicopters and fixed wing warplanes in fighting that went on till mid-afternoon.

There was no exact count of Taliban dead, but ISAF estimated militant losses to be "in the high double figures, close to triple figures," the spokesman said.

Tens of Taliban were killed, an Afghan Defence Ministry spokesman said.

SPIKE IN VIOLENCE

There has been a marked increase of violence in Afghanistan this year, especially along the eastern border where militants have effectively secured their rear with de-facto ceasefires with Pakistani forces and launched more attacks into Afghan soil.

The surge in violence is also partly due to the higher numbers of ISAF and Afghan forces in the country entering areas, such as the Pech Valley, where they seldom went before.

Afghan officials said on Sunday the Taliban fighters had infiltrated from nearby Pakistan to launch the attack. However, NATO's Finney said it was unclear whether the militants had crossed the border.

But Taliban sanctuaries in Pakistan were "a matter of great concern," he said.

Afghan leaders are growing increasingly impatient with Pakistan, whose new government has adopted a policy of trying to treat with militant leaders instead of battling them.

Afghan officials have hinted at Pakistani agents being involved in a string of attacks in Afghanistan, including a suicide bomb on the Indian embassy in Kabul last week which killed 58 people and an attempt to kill President Hamid Karzai in April.

Karzai last month threatened to send troops into Pakistan if Islamabad does not take action against militant sanctuaries.

Pakistan denies it is aiding militants and says the Kabul government should try harder to negotiate a peaceful end to the conflict, which it says is an internal Afghan issue.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/afghan_violence_dc

These Americans fought bravely along side Afghan forces. Not against Afghans but against Taliban (Pushtuns) crossing from Pakistan!
Bush allies with Pakistan but neither Bush or the Pakistan Government does anything to stop these militants from entering Afghanistan! Karzai has the right idea, and we should send more troops, 100's of thousands, to help!
Cut off aid to Pakistan and warn them that we, like Karzai and the Afghan Army, will enter Pakistan to take care of the problem if they dont! Pour troops in Afghanistan to back up our threat and battle the Pakistan Army if need be!

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Mon 07/14/08 02:23 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Mon 07/14/08 02:25 AM
<---------- This is a picture of Taliban Mujahadeen forces surrendering, and turning their weapons over at an Indian Army base.
Proof that they are not Afghans, will surrender, and can be defeated. These militants are surrendering to Indian forces in India!


http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Afghanistan-Afghan-soldier-searches-house-weapons-Dorfshan-river-valley-Uruzgan-province/ss/events/wl/08072001afghanistan/s:/nm/20080714/wl_nm/afghan_violence_dc_9/im:/080714/photos_wl/2008_07_14t004200_450x310_us_afghan_violence/;_ylt=AuxhyEmNX1LCJ4GmDqY8Orpn.3QA#photoViewer=/080713/481/9a2dcc7dd3294571843a15dd85f5738a

In this May 31, 2004 file photo, Islamic fundamentalist Hezb-ul Mujahedeen rebels stand with their weapons before surrendering at the Reasi army camp, 85 kilometers (53 miles) northeast of Jammu, India. In early June, about 300 fighters from jihadist groups came together for a secret gathering in Rawalpindi. The groups were launched long ago with the army's clandestine support to fight against India in the disputed Himalayan region of Kashmir. But at the meeting, they agreed to iron out their differences and commit more fighters to another front instead: Afghanistan.

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Mon 07/14/08 06:51 AM

Those animals will continue to kill one another long after our troops are pulled out!


The animals are the ones who kill innocent people in their own homes : they are called American politicians and American soldiers .

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Mon 07/14/08 08:39 AM


Those animals will continue to kill one another long after our troops are pulled out!


The animals are the ones who kill innocent people in their own homes : they are called American politicians and American soldiers .


The American soldiers are not animals. They are trained professionals following the orders of their leader.

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Mon 07/14/08 08:45 AM



After thought, at least Afghanistan is closer to bin laden.


Osama is dead ... he died of kidney failure.


I don't believe that at all. Bin laden is alive and well. And proud of what he done to us. He is also happy we are in Iraq as Iraq was no friend to him.

How come Saddam was captured and Bin Laden ?.
It is called deception in the first degree .

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Mon 07/14/08 08:49 AM


What will you die for?


The lives, and freedom of my family, close friends, and those fighting along side of me.

They die for the lies and agenda of the neo cons , the Zionists ,Israel and those who work for them .rofl rofl rofl .