TNX for the info Mirror, good to see you back.

putting what you say together with JB's and miles assesments makes this a very interesting study, i will look into it further.

Have you heard about the Draco?

do you mean those who are draconians? the draagon people?

Yeah

Water symbolizes primordial Wisdom and in psychoanalysis, the storehouse that is the unconscious mind. However, to paraphrase Sigmund Freud commenting on the interpretation of symbols in dreams, "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar." That is, the water in naga lore is really wet.

In the language of Kashmir, the word for "a spring" is naga and, in fact, nagas are considered the earliest inhabitants of that region. In a sense this is borne out by geology since that valley was once

"a vast span of water, similar to a huge dam, walled in by high mountains. The Nilamatapurana records how the valley was elevated out of water and left under the care of the Nagas, of whom Nila, the son of Kashyapa, was the chief." Kashmir is named after Kashyapa where "the term ‘naga’ stands for spring; 'chesmah,' and 'negin' for small spring. Springs are the main source of water in Kashmir." And "the auspicious and famous river of Kashmir, the Vitasta (Jhelum) originates from a spring near Verinag and is responsible for the water supply to most parts of the valley. The religious significance of the river is established by the Nilamata Purana [Myth of the Indigo Goddess] when it records the entire land of Kashmir as the material manifestation of Uma and describes her as the divine form of the Vitasta."

"A large number of temples were built near springs and were dedicated to the worship of nagas." and "These places have become great centres of religious pilgrimage. The place names of certain areas, e.g. Verinag, Anantnag and Seshanag even today remind one of the intimate relations between the valley and the popularity of the Naga cult. The Rajatarangini of Kalhana mentions Sushravas and Padma Nagas, who were tutelary deities connected with the Wular lake. The Dikpalas of Kashmir are believed to be four nagas, viz. Bindusara in the east, Srimadaka in the south, Elapatra in the west and Uttarmansa in the north."

Many Kashmiri festivals relate to Naga worship, "for example during the first snowfall, Nila, the Lord of Nagas, is worshipped. The Nagas are also propitiated in April and are related to Iramanjari Puja and to Varuna Panchmi, which is organised in July-August." And "in the darker half of the month of Jyeshtha, when a big festival is organised to propitiate the king Taksakyatra. The Nilamatapurana listed 527 Nagas that were worshipped in Kashmir. In the account of Abul Fazal, the court historian of Akbar, there are references to seven hundred places sacred to serpents."

The purana also points to the association of the cult of Nagas with that of Shiva. In the Mahabharata and Harivamsa texts, Shesha was considered the son of Shiva. A lesser relation was developed with regard to Vishnu as in his sheshashayi form which links the primal waters with the sleeping Vishnu. Also, Balarama who is Krishna's elder brother is the personification of the snake, Ananta.

Kashmiri names such as Vishnasar and Krishnasar are Vaishnavite ones where the suffix sar means 'reservoir.' Even though Kashmir may be Muslim-dominated in contemporary times, a spring is "understood as naga and enjoys the respect of every religion."

"The prosperity goddess, Lakshmi, is said to have taken the form of the river Visoka (now known as the Vishov) to purify the people of Kashmir. Most probably, treating springs and rivers with great reverence wittingly or unwittingly resulted in the ecological balance necessary for a healthy and natural interaction between the environment and man."

" . . . every naga has a snake as its guardian deity. Fishing is prohibited in these springs, though the fish which come out of the main garbha [den, lair] of a naga can be caught. Restrictions on fishing have definitely helped to some extent to preserve water ecology."

"Hindus still propitiate these nagas. At Martanda Naga even srada is performed. Water is offered by Hindus to the Sun God and to their ancestors (purvaj). Before having darshan of the snow linga at Amarnatha a holy dip is essential in the Seshanaga. A person suffering from a skin disease is said to be cured after having a bath in Gandhakanaga (sulphur spring) at Naghbal, Anantnag."

"Muslims show their respect for these nagas in many ways. They offer sacrifices and organise fairs on many festivals such as Id, [e]ven they do not catch fish in these nagas. Their faith in nagas can further be established by an example from Anantnag district, where during days of water scarcity or extra rainfall, people offer sacrifices to the Vasuk Naga (the water of which remains in the valley during summer only and disappears in winter.) They have full faith that offerings to Vasuk will bring rain or stop it as desired."

Mirror x2,

do you really understand all this or are you just posting the info for me to read?

was this something you were heavily involved with at one time?

just curious, thnx

What I see, when I step back and look at the practical way evolution seems to take place, the first creatures, at least on the earth, were the dinosaurs and reptiles who dominated the earth for a very long time.

I think if the course of evolution is a humanoid creature, there is a good chance that if left alone, (unlike earth which was tampered with) an evolving planet would eventually have reptilian humanoid creatures standing on two legs, getting smarter and smarter as they evolve.

The Naga's or snake people are humaniod two legged creatures with tails. They may have gone underground, if any survived the extinction of the Dinosaurs on earth. On other planets, they just simply evolved. I believe this galaxy is dominated by many different humanoid and other creatures, but most of them are more reptilian in nature than descendants of mammals.

If you believe in evolution, (not necessarily Darwinian) but any kind of evolution, then it is not so hard to believe that intelligent life would have evolved from reptiles as well as mammals. In fact, I think this is more likely.

One of my ideas is:
Because all life is connected, there is a universal mind, that coordinates all information from creature evolution everywhere. This information is stored and it is accessible to prime source or any delegated creators. Just as a scientist today makes use of current known science, so do creators make use of all information in the universal mind.

So each new star system created becomes equipped with all this current information and any new information for evolution that has been collected and stored from all manifestation experiences everywhere as the universes expands.

The universes of life, continue to expand and grow and learn.

JB

interesting jellybean, thnx

I research the stuff you people talk about, especially J.B. I already know about a lot of it

the mind of every being is a precise collection of data all serving for a major purpose, and when all is united, the mysteries of the "worlds" is made known to all and by all.........