Topic: The last of the surge return!
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Sat 07/26/08 06:12 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sat 07/26/08 06:39 AM
Baghdad - After almost 15 months of its longest, deadliest, and most unconventional deployment, the 1st Battalion, 64th Armor Regiment of the US Army is packing up to leave Iraq.

When it goes home to Fort Stewart, Ga., this month, the unit will be among the last to return from the "surge," Washington's move to calm the sectarian bloodshed that had consumed Baghdad and much of Iraq.

Still, while the 1/64 recognizes much progress during its tour, the majority of the more than dozen soldiers and officers interviewed question if their effort will have been worth it in the end. Many say their mission helped bring about only a lull in the sectarian killings and feel that neither the Iraqi government nor its forces are ready, capable, or even motivated to build on the successes of the surge.

"We have no control over what happens once we leave. No one is prepared to stay here 20 years of their lives to make sure this place stays good," says Spc. Mark Webster, a native of San Luis Obispo, Calif., stationed at the neighborhood garrison of Adel. These combat outposts (COPS) have been scattered throughout Baghdad since the start of the surge. "We have accomplished things; we kept it at a general lull," adds Specialist Webster.

"They tell us we are doing something for our country, but I do not see it," says one soldier, who did not want to have his name published. "It seems more like the real fight is in Afghanistan … instead they get us into this [area of operation], which is more like Mr. Rogers' neighborhood."

Adel, a once-prosperous middle-class area, is now almost all Sunni and poor. Shiites fled the sectarian violence of 2006 and their homes have been occupied by Sunnis displaced from neighboring Hurriya. That shift is just one example of the new sectarian segregation throughout Baghdad.

On a recent house-to-house search in Adel by members of the 1/64, accompanying Iraqi soldiers seemed more interested in chatting and texting on their cellphones than the mission at hand.

"It's tiring. It has been five years. Now it's called knock-and-search instead of raids. A lot of the [Iraqi] soldiers do not want to do their jobs," grumbles Staff Sgt. Jose Benavides from Miami. "If the Americans leave, the sectarian violence will flare up."

On a recent drive with Lt. Col. Edward Chesney, the 1/64's commander, through his area of operation, he recounted how the local Iraqi police unit was rebuilt from scratch in many of the mainly Sunni neighborhoods he oversees. It's now staffed with men, some ex-insurgents, mostly on the US payroll.

He described with enthusiasm how US funds are being spent on creating municipal outposts, known as public-works substations, in many of these once no-go neighborhoods to encourage the Shiite-led Baghdad municipal authorities to pitch in.

But when it comes to broader Iraqi reconciliation, he says, that's something you can't impose. "That's something they are going to have to work through," he says. "I think foundations have been laid in our areas, but if progress does not continue there is potential for things to unravel again."

And many within the battalion wonder just how long the war will – or should – go on.

Maj. Chris Budihas recalls how in 2004 – while he was serving in Najaf to the south – he had asked the commander of US troops in Iraq at the time, Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, whether there would be an Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF) 12 or 13, the US military's term for tours of duty in Iraq.

"He looked down, shifted the sand with his boots, and told me 'maybe'," says Major Budihas, who is finishing up his 17-month tour as part of OIF 6.

"Fear consumes people. Hearts are still filled with fear," says Mrs. Marouf, gesturing emotionally.

Her sister, Jinan Marouf, adds: "All this calm is temporary, trust me. If we get someone like Saddam Hussein back, Iraq will be itself again. We need someone with his control."


http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20080703/wl_csm/ohome


Lynann's photo
Sat 07/26/08 07:13 AM
I will never disrespect the men and women of our armed forces who serve honorably and this post is not meant to lessen or address what they do in the service of their country.

But...

Why doesn't anyone want to talk about another major factor in lessing violence in Iraq.

WE ARE PAYING THEM NOT TO FIGHT...the trouble with this cunning plan is that when the payments stop...well I think you can all see this thought through. The payments stopped in Afghanistan after the Russians withdrew.


Now we are paying, training and arming factions in Iraq just like we paid, adised and armed the Afghans when we supported their resistance against Russia. Hell we trained Bin Laden.

Didn't we learn anything there?

I sure the situation will improve though if we elect McCain who among other things wasn't sure about Shiites and Sunnis and who said the other day that Iraq and Pakistan shared a border.

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Sat 07/26/08 07:19 AM
Why does the right focus on the "surge" as some kind of success? Within the context of a war that never should have happened, it's just more destruction and loss of life which HAS NOT made Americans any "safer."

It's similar to the call to "Drill, Drill, Drill," when the focus (and investment) should be on alternatives.

Look up "obfuscation."

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Sat 07/26/08 07:28 AM
Edited by crickstergo on Sat 07/26/08 07:29 AM

I will never disrespect the men and women of our armed forces who serve honorably and this post is not meant to lessen or address what they do in the service of their country.

But...

Why doesn't anyone want to talk about another major factor in lessing violence in Iraq.

WE ARE PAYING THEM NOT TO FIGHT...the trouble with this cunning plan is that when the payments stop...well I think you can all see this thought through. The payments stopped in Afghanistan after the Russians withdrew.


Now we are paying, training and arming factions in Iraq just like we paid, adised and armed the Afghans when we supported their resistance against Russia. Hell we trained Bin Laden.

Didn't we learn anything there?

I sure the situation will improve though if we elect McCain who among other things wasn't sure about Shiites and Sunnis and who said the other day that Iraq and Pakistan shared a border.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws