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Topic: How Far You Say!!!!!
feralcatlady's photo
Mon 08/11/08 05:56 PM
HOW FAR BACK DO YOU THINK THE RECORDS GO?

If mankind has been on earth over a million years, as the evolutionists tell us, then why do the records of their activity only go back a few thousand years. The evidence agrees with the Bible account, not with the evolutionists. Evolutionary theory is a myth. God created everything; the evidence clearly points to it. Nothing else can explain the mountain of evidence. This is science vs. evolution—a Creation-Evolution Encyclopedia, brought to you by Creation Science Facts.

CONTENT: How Far Back do the Records Go?

Languages - Ancient languages never back beyond c. 3000 B.C., and radiate outward from Mesopotamia

Ancient Historical Records - The oldest dates go back to
about 3000 B.C.

The Oldest People - They do not go back before c. 3000 B.C., and were located in Mesopotamia

Conclusion - Man, whom the evolutionists claim to have come into existence over a million years ago, is said to have "stopped evolving" 100,000 years ago. Why then do we not have at least 100,000 years of civilizations, cities, and human remains?

Ancient languages never back beyond c. 3000 B.C., and radiate outward from Mesopotamia.

Mankind is so intelligent that languages are soon put into written records which are left lying about on the surface of the earth. It is clear that language and dialect differences suddenly developed shortly after the Flood, at which time men separated and traveled off in groups whose members could understand one another (Genesis 11:1-9).

The records of ancient languages never go back beyond c. 3000 B.C. Philological and linguistic studies reveal that a majority of them are part of large "language families," and most of these appear to radiate outward from the area of Babylonia.

For example, the Japhetic peoples, listed in Genesis 10, traveled to Europe and India, where they became the so-called Aryan peoples. These all use what we today call the Indo-European Language Family. Recent linguistic studies reveal that these languages originated at a common center in southeastern Europe on the Baltic. This would be close to the Ararat range. Thieme, a Sanskrit and comparative philology expert at Yale University, gives this estimate:

"Indo-European, I conjecture, was spoken on the Baltic coast of Germany late in the fourth millennium B.C. (c. 3000 B.C.)

For more information on languages, see our book, Ancient Man.
ANCIENT HISTORICAL RECORDS

The oldest dates go back to about 3000 B.C.

Historical records constitute the only dating information we really have. Prior to the beginnings of history, which is only a few thousand years ago, we have only rocks, water, sky, and conjectures. Here are additional statements in regard to the dating of our earliest actual information about recorded history:

The earliest records only go back to about 3000 B.C.

"It is a common error to think of man's existence in terms of recorded history, Historical records go back to about 3000 B.C., but this is only a small fraction of the time man has lived on earth.

4000 B.C. as the absolute limit of possible historical records.

"Recorded history is no more than six thousand years old, whereas human beings have been making history ever since they have been on this earth, a period believed to be about one million years.

Even with the use of certain time-extending devices, the very earliest possible dates given for the invention of writing only go back to 4000 B.C.

"The invention of writing, about 6,000 years ago, ushered in the historic period of man. The time prior to 6,000 years ago is known as the prehistoric period.

Although it is said that the earliest writing goes back to 4000 B.C., the earliest written language only goes back to 3500 B.C.

"The earliest written language, Sumerian cuneiform, goes back to about 3500 B.C.

We have no data on any human civilization prior to 4000 B.C.

"Historical records of any human civilization before 4000 B.C. are completely absent.

Oddly enough, man has accomplished more in the last 6,000 years than he did in the previous million years. This would be true in light of the fact that we have not one shred of evidence that man did anything in that previous one million years!

"In the last six thousand years, man has advanced far more rapidly than he did in the million or more years of his prehistoric existence.

The developer of radiocarbon dating was astounded to learn that there are no records of mankind prior to 3000 B.C. (His teachers had not mentioned it in college.)

"The research in the development of the [radiocarbon] dating technique consisted of two stages—dating of samples from the historic and prehistoric epochs, respectively, they were shocked when they were informed that history extended back only for 5,000 years . . You read statements to the effect that such and such a society or archeological site is 20,000 years old. We learned rather that these numbers, these ancient ages, are not known accurately; in fact, the earliest historical date that has been established with any degree of certainty is about the time of the First Dynasty of Egypt.

Prior to a certain point several thousand years ago, there was no trace of man having ever existed. After that point, civilization, writing, language, agriculture, domestication, and all the rest—suddenly exploded into intense activity!

"No more surprising fact has been discovered, by recent excavation, than the suddenness with which civilization appeared in the world. This discovery is the very opposite to that anticipated. It was expected that the more ancient the period, the more primitive would excavators find it to be, until traces of civilization ceased altogether and aboriginal man appeared. Neither in Babylonia nor Egypt, the lands of the oldest known habitations of man, has this been the case.

Dates going back to 3000 to 4000 B.C. are estimated as the longest possible dates. But "well-authenticated" dates from Egypt, which scientists consider to have been history's oldest civilization, only go back to 1600 B.C.

THE OLDEST PEOPLE

They do not go back before c. 3000 B.C., and were located in Mesopotamia.

The various radiodating techniques could be so inaccurate that mankind has only been on earth a few thousand years.

"Dates determined by radioactive decay may be off—not only by a few years, but by orders of magnitude . . Man, instead of having walked the earth for 3.6 million years, may have been around for only a few thousand.

We have no records indicating human civilization going back beyond a few thousand years.


There are no written records before about 3000 B.C.

"In the Old World, most of the critical steps in the farming revolution were taken between 1000 and 5000 B.C. . . Only for the last 5000 years has man left written records.

Almost as soon as there was civilization, there were towns and cities, and the oldest were in Mesopotamia.

"In most civilizations, urbanization began early. There is little doubt that this was the case for the oldest civilization and the earliest cities: those of ancient Mesopotamia.

The earliest king lists only go back to shortly before 3000 B.C.

"The Egyptian king lists go back to the First Dynasty of Egypt, and little before 3000 B.C. Before that, there were no written records anywhere.

CONCLUSION

Man, whom the evolutionists claim to have come into existence over a million years ago, is said to have "stopped evolving" 100,000 years ago. Why then do we not have at least 100,000 years of civilizations, cities, and human remains?

Evolutionary estimates of the age of the earth have constantly changed and lengthened with the passing of time. (It currently stands at 5 billion years.) But the scientific evidence remains constant and, as new authentic evidence emerges, it only fastens down the dates even more firmly. It all points to a beginning for our planet, about 6,000 years ago. Some may see it as 7,000 to 10,000 years, but the evidence points most distinctly toward a date of about 4000 B.C. for the origin of our planet. The evidence for a recent earth is scientifically solid.

The earliest man is said, by the evolutionists, to have existed one or two million years old. Yet, they add quite emphatically, that he "stopped evolving" about 100,000 years ago.

—Why then do we not have 100,000 years of civilizations, cities, and remains of all kinds? But we do not. The reason is the Bible is right and the evolutionists are wrong.

The God of heaven created our world about 6,000 years ago. Then, about 2348 B.C., a gigantic Flood covered the earth. Keeping in mind that we are dealing with very ancient events, all the evidence can be reconciled with these figures.


iRon's photo
Mon 08/11/08 06:04 PM
What ever dates you use, what gets me is that indoor pluming for everyone has only been around for about 150 years and the individual "Shower" for about 100 years..


So again what ever date you use, that's like 5000 to 10,000 of civilized man with no showers??? Whats up with that????




feralcatlady's photo
Mon 08/11/08 06:08 PM

What ever dates you use, what gets me is that indoor pluming for everyone has only been around for about 150 years and the individual "Shower" for about 100 years..


So again what ever date you use, that's like 5000 to 10,000 of civilized man with no showers??? Whats up with that????










ahhhhh that was very good......

iRon's photo
Mon 08/11/08 06:18 PM
Do you find it interesting that only when man was giving inalienable right via the constitution of America that his creativity and ability to create, not just invasion them but create miraculous things happened?

For 10,000 we served master, king or Pharaoh and once given our own rights we did nothing less than amazing things..for the first time in human history.


What do you make of that? Have you ever thought of that?

Abracadabra's photo
Mon 08/11/08 06:19 PM

You're right. We should just toss out all the credible evidence from years of scientific investigation and believe the religious fantatics who have clear-cut agendas to convert the world to their religion.

Why didn't we think of this before? How stupid we must all be!

We need to all run out and buy bibles and learn how to stone our unruly children to death, especially the ones who want to learn about evolution. Those heathens don't deserve to live.

We should put our daughters up for sale as wives and trade them for goats.

And let's not forget the most important law of God,...

Never listen to any woman who speaks out on important religious or social matters because she's clearly in direct disobedience of God and can only be working for Satan.

No truly devoutly religious woman would ever disobey God's laws so blatantly. flowerforyou

Can someone pass the mash potatoes please. bigsmile

Abracadabra's photo
Mon 08/11/08 06:21 PM

Do you find it interesting that only when man was giving inalienable right via the constitution of America that his creativity and ability to create, not just invasion them but create miraculous things happened?

For 10,000 we served master, king or Pharaoh and once given our own rights we did nothing less than amazing things..for the first time in human history.

What do you make of that? Have you ever thought of that?


Ask the Native American Indians what they thought of it. bigsmile

feralcatlady's photo
Mon 08/11/08 06:24 PM


You're right. We should just toss out all the credible evidence from years of scientific investigation and believe the religious fantatics who have clear-cut agendas to convert the world to their religion.

Why didn't we think of this before? How stupid we must all be!

We need to all run out and buy bibles and learn how to stone our unruly children to death, especially the ones who want to learn about evolution. Those heathens don't deserve to live.

We should put our daughters up for sale as wives and trade them for goats.

And let's not forget the most important law of God,...

Never listen to any woman who speaks out on important religious or social matters because she's clearly in direct disobedience of God and can only be working for Satan.

No truly devoutly religious woman would ever disobey God's laws so blatantly. flowerforyou

Can someone pass the mash potatoes please. bigsmile




Well this is your chance oh mighty abra......proof is all I seek.....If you think different then by golly proof, proof, proof.

feralcatlady's photo
Mon 08/11/08 06:25 PM

Do you find it interesting that only when man was giving inalienable right via the constitution of America that his creativity and ability to create, not just invasion them but create miraculous things happened?

For 10,000 we served master, king or Pharaoh and once given our own rights we did nothing less than amazing things..for the first time in human history.


What do you make of that? Have you ever thought of that?



I find that facinating and would like you to say more.

wouldee's photo
Mon 08/11/08 06:27 PM
the last 150 years speaks for itself.

all of history has been lept and overshadowed and the momentum continues unabated, in terms of science and technology and the improvements in the quality of life of the whole world.

Consider the Chinese. They have resisted the advancements of the rest of the world and in an explosion of pent up fury to get back on track with man's advance in science and technlogy and for the betterment of the quality of life for themselves, they have even thrown off their disdain and contempt of western civilization to get on board.

Not that I condone our direction which will include new abuses of power and privilege.

Wouldn't want anyone to think I have jumped ship. LOL.


This momentum is logarithmic.

1 2 4 8 16 32 ..............



This world, the world of man is a short one.


H0ow does tht relate to the patience of God, which is long?

consider the first memorial intended to be rected to the Lord by the Jews. The Lord said specifically noit to build it, but mark the place with stacked stones, untouched, unmarred, untooled, and unmolested and just stack them please, thank you very much.


The inventiveness of man and man's artifices are not appreciated by God as much as they are the delight of men.

The pursuit distracts the heart from resting in the joy of life at it's simplest, which is well pleasing to God, since he made this garden for us and in a completely habitable estate of being.

And the record of that revelation from God was penned about 4000 years ago. or less. not more.

OK.

That is enough for me to embrace as overwhelmingly relevant.

Hard facts to the contrary are slippery and inconsistent and do not agree with themselves.

Man has shown otherwise by history itself.

in our own lifetime we should be able to see that.

But still.

I don't believe the argument is about evolution and the age of mnan as much as men try to twist the evidence and records left in perpetuity of man's persence in the earth as much as the argument is about trying to remove God as the source of creatin as it is in its present state in the hopes of being able to convince the masses that God's lwas are the favbrication of evil men to control the world.

Such nonsense, unless of course, sin and debauchery and depravity seek to be unleashed without restraint in an orgiistic frenzy for the titilating enjoyment of the heartless and cruel and lustful and degenerate of the world.

OOPS!!!!!!!!!!!

was that the taboo???????????????????????


yipee.

I lit a fire.

:banana: :banana: :laughing: rofl rofl


here ya go Deb.flowers tongue2 waving :angel: winking

iRon's photo
Mon 08/11/08 06:29 PM
Edited by iRon on Mon 08/11/08 06:32 PM
I love the fact that the more silentest and science digs the closer we get to God.

Some of the great minds of all human history including Newton, Einstein, Angelo and many more all totally believed there had to be God...



feralcatlady's photo
Mon 08/11/08 06:37 PM


Do you find it interesting that only when man was giving inalienable right via the constitution of America that his creativity and ability to create, not just invasion them but create miraculous things happened?

For 10,000 we served master, king or Pharaoh and once given our own rights we did nothing less than amazing things..for the first time in human history.

What do you make of that? Have you ever thought of that?


Ask the Native American Indians what they thought of it. bigsmile




ask me....I am part Native American.....try again....and you childish rants......are so darn funny.......

feralcatlady's photo
Mon 08/11/08 06:39 PM

the last 150 years speaks for itself.

all of history has been lept and overshadowed and the momentum continues unabated, in terms of science and technology and the improvements in the quality of life of the whole world.

Consider the Chinese. They have resisted the advancements of the rest of the world and in an explosion of pent up fury to get back on track with man's advance in science and technlogy and for the betterment of the quality of life for themselves, they have even thrown off their disdain and contempt of western civilization to get on board.

Not that I condone our direction which will include new abuses of power and privilege.

Wouldn't want anyone to think I have jumped ship. LOL.


This momentum is logarithmic.

1 2 4 8 16 32 ..............



This world, the world of man is a short one.


H0ow does tht relate to the patience of God, which is long?

consider the first memorial intended to be rected to the Lord by the Jews. The Lord said specifically noit to build it, but mark the place with stacked stones, untouched, unmarred, untooled, and unmolested and just stack them please, thank you very much.


The inventiveness of man and man's artifices are not appreciated by God as much as they are the delight of men.

The pursuit distracts the heart from resting in the joy of life at it's simplest, which is well pleasing to God, since he made this garden for us and in a completely habitable estate of being.

And the record of that revelation from God was penned about 4000 years ago. or less. not more.

OK.

That is enough for me to embrace as overwhelmingly relevant.

Hard facts to the contrary are slippery and inconsistent and do not agree with themselves.

Man has shown otherwise by history itself.

in our own lifetime we should be able to see that.

But still.

I don't believe the argument is about evolution and the age of mnan as much as men try to twist the evidence and records left in perpetuity of man's persence in the earth as much as the argument is about trying to remove God as the source of creatin as it is in its present state in the hopes of being able to convince the masses that God's lwas are the favbrication of evil men to control the world.

Such nonsense, unless of course, sin and debauchery and depravity seek to be unleashed without restraint in an orgiistic frenzy for the titilating enjoyment of the heartless and cruel and lustful and degenerate of the world.

OOPS!!!!!!!!!!!

was that the taboo???????????????????????


yipee.

I lit a fire.

:banana: :banana: :laughing: rofl rofl


here ya go Deb.flowers tongue2 waving :angel: winking




It might be better then chicage......bring marshmellows.....giggles

wouldee's photo
Mon 08/11/08 06:42 PM
STA-PUFS

yummy

drool :laughing:

hey that's a double entendre too.

yippeee..:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

iRon's photo
Mon 08/11/08 06:48 PM
It's very clear to me that when human beings are suppressed and not allowed to be free as humanity has been for most all of human history they have nothing to aspire and no reason to better themselves.

Then humans get these inalienable rights and the pursuit for happiness bestowed upon them and are told this is what "God" wants for his people now. With these NEW RIGHTS there was only one thing to do and that was to watch out because the sky's the limit literally....

This part of the the human experiment as produced untold riches far greater than all of history combined and all out of what truly is nothing more than illusion an illusion called freedom.

Abracadabra's photo
Mon 08/11/08 06:53 PM

ask me....I am part Native American.....try again....and you childish rants......are so darn funny.......


Make light of the Trail of Tears honey.

I'm not impressed with the history of your religion.

Teahing people brotherly love is obviously not its strong point. ohwell

It will even turn against it's own intellectual community for it's savage lust to proclaim itself a superior authority.

Where are we headed with this?

Back to the Dark Ages?

Proclaim that science is wrong?

What's next?

Burning witches at the stake?

wouldee's photo
Mon 08/11/08 07:11 PM


ask me....I am part Native American.....try again....and you childish rants......are so darn funny.......


Make light of the Trail of Tears honey.

I'm not impressed with the history of your religion.

Teahing people brotherly love is obviously not its strong point. ohwell

It will even turn against it's own intellectual community for it's savage lust to proclaim itself a superior authority.

Where are we headed with this?

Back to the Dark Ages?

Proclaim that science is wrong?

What's next?

Burning witches at the stake?




nope, burning christians like the Romans did.

conjecture as fact and then change the laws.
then the laws of God.

then the restraints come off.

prove the trail, don't imply it because the overwhelming wishful thinking of the foolish say so.

prove it.

not in poart, it is conjecture.

prove it first.

you can't. so off to the schools you go wqoth your charts and graphs saying, anyday now and we will have the missing links.

oops.

credit was given where no collateral was present.

but go on and assume control of debauchery already.

be open in your glee.

you've won already


pleae, rejoice in that,

gloat.

feel free.

who can harm you all now?

you have textbooks

you hhave the kids
you have your conjecture and probability acuaries


dance kids!!!!!!!

why are you sitting there.?


oh, the proof?

yup

show me.


but keep dancing.

:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:


rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

tribo's photo
Mon 08/11/08 07:17 PM
noway I don't want no "burnt withches" on my "steak - baby rays B-sauce,bigsmile will do just fine!!

Abracadabra's photo
Mon 08/11/08 07:28 PM
you can't. so off to the schools you go wqoth your charts and graphs saying, anyday now and we will have the missing links.


Modern science doesn't even recognize the term "missing links" as having any validity. The evolutionary pathways are complete enough to be undisputable. It simply isn't necessary to explain every single little detail to know that the Big Picture actaully took place.

The term "missing links" is a Creationist's wet dream. drinker

Milesoftheusa's photo
Mon 08/11/08 07:58 PM
Undisputable. A very strong word in an age that changes it's mind every few years about so many things.. Shalom...Miles

feralcatlady's photo
Mon 08/11/08 08:06 PM

you can't. so off to the schools you go wqoth your charts and graphs saying, anyday now and we will have the missing links.


Modern science doesn't even recognize the term "missing links" as having any validity. The evolutionary pathways are complete enough to be undisputable. It simply isn't necessary to explain every single little detail to know that the Big Picture actaully took place.

The term "missing links" is a Creationist's wet dream. drinker



You say so but where is your proof......Hey even when we are asked for proof.....we do something.....Not just say because our Bible say so.......psych

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