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well, when i blink, I cannot clear the fog of a cataract. 
and when i bend over and sneeze, which is a no no for me, I must see the chiropractor and put two vertibrae back where they belong. I am legally entitled to a full disability. But I can sttill make a better living than that without doing so. it is tempting. I live with pain 24/7. I also live with the Holy Spirit 24/7. One overcomes the other, but this broken ol' body may need an ambulatory aid in the future. But I will be giving up if i fall prey to the challenge. My kids got my back. blink, blink. LOL 
Ahh poor you. |
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well, when i blink, I cannot clear the fog of a cataract.
and when i bend over and sneeze, which is a no no for me, I must see the chiropractor and put two vertibrae back where they belong. I am legally entitled to a full disability. But I can sttill make a better living than that without doing so. it is tempting. I live with pain 24/7. I also live with the Holy Spirit 24/7. One overcomes the other, but this broken ol' body may need an ambulatory aid in the future. But I will be giving up if i fall prey to the challenge. My kids got my back. blink, blink. LOL
Ahh poor you. 
you wish, my delusional friend. 
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Edited by
Bushidobillyclub
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Thu 09/18/08 02:05 PM
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you wish, my delusional friend.
What are you even talking about, wish what? I doubt you even know. |
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well, remove the economy of scale from the present situation and there is an insufficient economy of scale to take care of those already in those same homes. Yes, beds will be freed and some costs will be no longer associated with those unoccupied beds, but how does that improve the situation for those that are completely and utterly and helplessly dependent on those presently providing care under existing programs? Any of those that could leave the present system to enjoy the "voucher system" of federal aid, also have a support structure that makes that "voucher system" licentiously elite and purposefully only available to those with the means to employ advantage for selfish gain on the backs of taxpayers like me and you. That serves only special interests. How is it that only a select few can expect government assistance to free up financial resources going elsewhere now for use elsewhere without oversight and under the personal control of those that would only have access to thaty largesse due to a government subsidy like you and tohers are suggesting? If it is only about those that are already utilizing the government programs for the care of loved ones, then why is it that government has become the excuse for priorities being viewed as an unfair cost and burden to families with dependent and needy elders? The whole discourse is utterly disrespectful to our elderly from that point of view. I am single parent with hardships and still thrive sufficiently to make a good home for my children. Why must I assume that my children will not be there for me? They will. Just like your parents can expect you to be there for them. I am not paying you $5000/month to do what is your duty to do for your parents sake. You are not going to pay me $5000/month to care for my parents either. know what I mean? who do you think pays these taxes for all of these government programs? oh yeah....... the government that borrows and borrows and lives beyond its means and is leaving this public indebtedness to your kids and mine. That is just stupid. There is no free lunch program. suck it up. 
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Edited by
Unknow
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Thu 09/18/08 02:33 PM
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well, remove the economy of scale from the present situation and there is an insufficient economy of scale to take care of those already in those same homes. Yes, beds will be freed and some costs will be no longer associated with those unoccupied beds, but how does that improve the situation for those that are completely and utterly and helplessly dependent on those presently providing care under existing programs? Any of those that could leave the present system to enjoy the "voucher system" of federal aid, also have a support structure that makes that "voucher system" licentiously elite and purposefully only available to those with the means to employ advantage for selfish gain on the backs of taxpayers like me and you. That serves only special interests. How is it that only a select few can expect government assistance to free up financial resources going elsewhere now for use elsewhere without oversight and under the personal control of those that would only have access to thaty largesse due to a government subsidy like you and tohers are suggesting? If it is only about those that are already utilizing the government programs for the care of loved ones, then why is it that government has become the excuse for priorities being viewed as an unfair cost and burden to families with dependent and needy elders? The whole discourse is utterly disrespectful to our elderly from that point of view. I am single parent with hardships and still thrive sufficiently to make a good home for my children. Why must I assume that my children will not be there for me? They will. Just like your parents can expect you to be there for them. I am not paying you $5000/month to do what is your duty to do for your parents sake. You are not going to pay me $5000/month to care for my parents either. know what I mean? who do you think pays these taxes for all of these government programs? oh yeah....... the government that borrows and borrows and lives beyond its means and is leaving this public indebtedness to your kids and mine. That is just stupid. There is no free lunch program. suck it up.
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Edited by
wouldee
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Thu 09/18/08 02:39 PM
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I see.
you want to talk about your homowners policy and avoid staying on topic and facing how ludicrous governmental entitlements to special interests are. well, that's typical of the looney left to run and hide and degenerate the debate to one of personal insults and distractions. you've learned your craft well. Good luck with that "voucher" for a free lunch!
good move removing the little personal attack. fear not. I never report to the mods over such indiscretions.
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That just stinks. Adapt is a good organization. Home health care is so much cheaper than the cost of a nursing home. How could McCain say it's too expensive and not support the bill? Grrrrr. Nobody wants to live in a nursing home, especially younger people. because this is not the role of government. and our taxes need to go to balancing the budget and paying down the debt. but, I got it on sale!!!! yeah, I know..... The government already has a role in it if the resident of the nursing home receives Medicare and/or Medicaid. That is why it doesn't make sense to not support the bill. The monies are already being spent on the care, so why not go the cheaper route with home health care. Hmmm....which way to go...cheaper and better quality of life for the patient or higher spending to keep a person in a nursing home. I do know that more cases than not that it is cheaper. There are companies that pay people about $7 or $8 an hour to be personal attendants in the home health care field. Yes, the attendants are not there 24 hours a day. There is some burden to the family. That is what families do. My parents raised me and I will do what I can to keep them out of a nursing home in the future. besides, it is discriminatory and not universal for all. that little special interest, special rights thingy gets irritating. Next they will be giving it to single parents for in home care of healthy minor children. I'd like that. But then, I'd need soime plan to take up the slack when the shortfall of an empty nest comes my way. how about you?
there is no joke when assuming that government's role is to coddle this nation with entitlements and free stuff for the lazy and self gratification of selfish interests seeking lighter burdens from personal responsibility and accountability for those responsibilities. All have families. All can build their own life. It's just like visiting the homeless and giving them a sandwich and a Bible. They eat the sandwich, save the money that would have bought their dinner and buy an enibriant with their lunch money and use the Bible to start a fire to keep them warm at night. Blame Bush, as you do, but government spending and entitlements, especially those requiring the medical field to provide that assistance only lead to spiralling medical costs. the only ones that will benefit are the medical professionals that plunder the public good and keep themselves saturated with phenomenal wealth and luxury and live better than kings of third world nations while the little people they plubnder are held in a consant state of disrepair because i feeds their long term goals of having a full and lucrative rolodex of willing benefactors. please........ get off that elitist high horse. it is not a joking matter. but the libtard solutions that only prove to make things worse is comical. the joke is on you. you have been sold down the river by self serving interests that are assumptions based in deceitful transference and projections of the bi polar left. nothing changed, huh? i am still calling it a joke, huh? nobama 2008
here 's a quote from the OP. 
"When I heard that they had stormed into the office and occupied it," Frank said, "I went in and told them that was not an acceptable way of doing business and I told them to leave and if they didn’t leave, I would have the police remove them." "I think that it’s undemocratic, these kind of tactics," he added, "and I won’t be influenced by them." "The TV is full of news about the bank crisis, and the mortgage crisis, and the need for candidates to appeal to middle income people," said ADAPT organizer Cassie James. "Meanwhile, people who live on disability benefits, and people who are trapped in nursing homes because of no housing are being held hostage while the government bails everyone else out. Rent has gone up so much, it's higher than many monthly disability benefits. Not only do us younger people with disabilities need affordable, accessible housing, older people need it, too. This is a crisis, and we need help to solve it." your problem is with your libtard buddies like Barney Frank and Chris Dodd, from the looks of the topic at hand. The gripe that this thread has to do with has absolutely nothing to do with your liberal rant and those rants of others that excuse the libtards and seek victims through your cloning of their ill will seeking victims. your hate speech and prejudicial rhetoric is unconvincing. not to worry. we got this. nobama 2008
EXACTLY Wouldee... It's such a lie that DEMS are for the little guy...the working class. They haven't done a darn thing to protect jobs or keep industry here in the country. NOTHING! In fact, they are selling us down the tubes with their natl. healthcare that would probly not be fit for a dog. Instead we get lies, the race card, & the evils of republicanism. Bully for them. It's so ridiculous yet see them get annoyed at US for saying so. LOL Go figure???? |
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The National Healthcare that Obama has suggested is an option - not a fact. Our taxes will be lower if he goes in office.
That's good. |
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The National Healthcare that Obama has suggested is an option - not a fact. Our taxes will be lower if he goes in office. That's good. no, it's bad. he will be giving the medical industry in this nation a new cash cow. period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that is all he will accomplish. and in ten years we will be bailing it out just like we are presently bailing out Clintonomic manipulations of the free market. 
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next time they need to go in one at a time (thus no assembly) and ask to see him and say they will wait
and then rather than a (protest) they are just trying to see their elected official and if an issue arises it is because they refuse to see anyone and makes them look worse just a thought but hey what do i know |
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The National Healthcare that Obama has suggested is an option - not a fact. Our taxes will be lower if he goes in office. That's good. no, it's bad. he will be giving the medical industry in this nation a new cash cow. period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that is all he will accomplish. and in ten years we will be bailing it out just like we are presently bailing out Clintonomic manipulations of the free market.
mandated insurance hhhmmmm can anyone say federal insurance contribution act (un-social in-security) |
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The National Healthcare that Obama has suggested is an option - not a fact. Our taxes will be lower if he goes in office. That's good. no, it's bad. he will be giving the medical industry in this nation a new cash cow. period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that is all he will accomplish. and in ten years we will be bailing it out just like we are presently bailing out Clintonomic manipulations of the free market.
GEEZ!!!! Wouldee... they wonder why we cut & paste? It saves time when we have to keep repeating ourselves for the benefit of those who lack reading comprehension... I guess I'll have to put it in bold letter too... EXACTLY Wouldee... It's such a lie that DEMS are for the little guy...the working class. They haven't done a darn thing to protect jobs or keep industry here in the country. NOTHING! In fact, they are selling us down the tubes with their natl. healthcare that would probly not be fit for a dog. Instead we get lies, the race card, & the evils of republicanism. Bully for them. It's so ridiculous yet see them get annoyed at US for saying so. LOL Go figure???? |
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The National Healthcare that Obama has suggested is an option - not a fact. Our taxes will be lower if he goes in office. That's good. no, it's bad. he will be giving the medical industry in this nation a new cash cow. period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that is all he will accomplish. and in ten years we will be bailing it out just like we are presently bailing out Clintonomic manipulations of the free market.
The HealthCare plan is an option to look at. |
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The National Healthcare that Obama has suggested is an option - not a fact. Our taxes will be lower if he goes in office. That's good. no, it's bad. he will be giving the medical industry in this nation a new cash cow. period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that is all he will accomplish. and in ten years we will be bailing it out just like we are presently bailing out Clintonomic manipulations of the free market.
GEEZ!!!! Wouldee... they wonder why we cut & paste? It saves time when we have to keep repeating ourselves for the benefit of those who lack reading comprehension... I guess I'll have to put it in bold letter too... EXACTLY Wouldee... It's such a lie that DEMS are for the little guy...the working class. They haven't done a darn thing to protect jobs or keep industry here in the country. NOTHING! In fact, they are selling us down the tubes with their natl. healthcare that would probly not be fit for a dog. Instead we get lies, the race card, & the evils of republicanism. Bully for them. It's so ridiculous yet see them get annoyed at US for saying so. LOL Go figure???? Those are lies. |
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Oh, I'm sure this Government has given themselves immunity from what the rest of us would lose our pants over.
But F' Mr.Frank, sue his butt anyway. |
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Oh, I'm sure this Government has given themselves immunity from what the rest of us would lose our pants over. But F' Mr.Frank, sue his butt anyway. war. you do know he is a butt pirate, right? i wouldn't get near him.
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Yes, I'm aware that Mr.Frank engages in a "alternative" life style.
That concerns me not, what concerns me is when those who actually need Government to work, gets pooped on by them. However, why am I surprised, Frank is just another in a long line of liars, supported and coddled by the Duopoly. |
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to the shores of trypoly.....
God Bless America.
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Yes, I'm aware that Mr.Frank engages in a "alternative" life style. That concerns me not, what concerns me is when those who actually need Government to work, gets pooped on by them. However, why am I surprised, Frank is just another in a long line of liars, supported and coddled by the Duopoly. 
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Edited by
Unknow
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Thu 09/18/08 10:26 PM
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I see. you want to talk about your homowners policy and avoid staying on topic and facing how ludicrous governmental entitlements to special interests are. well, that's typical of the looney left to run and hide and degenerate the debate to one of personal insults and distractions. you've learned your craft well. Good luck with that "voucher" for a free lunch!
good move removing the little personal attack. fear not. I never report to the mods over such indiscretions.
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