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Topic: Presidential Debate 3
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Wed 10/15/08 08:07 PM

Lower taxes means Squat if you don't have a job!!!

why are manufacturing jobs going over seas??????

35%corporate tax rate....wake up......

Do you even know what your "effective tax rate" is??






I think Mccain looked like a desperate old man. especialy when he tried to spin a tax increase on the wealthy into a tax increase on "joe the plumber" what a joke that was.


You are just saying that because you hate republicans

How many way would Obama have to say no taxes for small businesses and 95% of people before you get it? I guess that is way to are republican it seems to be a problem you guys have, listening that is.



The effective tax rate is the amount of tax an individual or firm pays when all other government tax offsets or payments are applied, divided by the tax base (total income or spending).[2] If certain groups have high degrees of tax offsets compared to other groups, their effective tax rate will be lower, even where their official tax rates and marginal tax rates will be equal. The effective rate of tax can often be discussed in terms of the effective marginal rate of tax - namely the amount of effective tax paid as a percentage of the last dollar earned or spent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_rate

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Wed 10/15/08 08:08 PM
how's the unemployment treating you??

is that high corp. tax rate working for you????

***** all you want... you are still on the bench and it will be worse if your wish come true




I think Mccain looked like a desperate old man. especialy when he tried to spin a tax increase on the wealthy into a tax increase on "joe the plumber" what a joke that was.


You are just saying that because you hate republicans
I only hate what the republicans have done to my country.

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Wed 10/15/08 08:08 PM
Edited by Winx on Wed 10/15/08 08:19 PM
I think McCain was aggressive and losing his cool. I didn't like when the campaign issues (Ayers and Acorn wasn't fair) were brought up. Then Obama had to bring up what was said about him at the rallys. I would have rather have more important issues like the economy talked about instead of attacking Obama's character.

I thought McCain was being sneaky when he talked about the Supreme Court Judges. He was saying that they didn't have to be pro-choice. Then the last sentence -- but that wouldn't fall into my qualifications. What's that about?laugh

I do not like the way that McCain says untruths at the debates and Obama has to set him straight.

Methinks that McCain is jealous about Obama's eloquence too.laugh

I like Obama's temperament. That's the way I want to see somebody making decisions.happy




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Wed 10/15/08 08:09 PM
thanks for the google search but it was a question to you....
What was you effective tax rate the last year you filed????

Do you know????





Lower taxes means Squat if you don't have a job!!!

why are manufacturing jobs going over seas??????

35%corporate tax rate....wake up......

Do you even know what your "effective tax rate" is??






I think Mccain looked like a desperate old man. especialy when he tried to spin a tax increase on the wealthy into a tax increase on "joe the plumber" what a joke that was.


You are just saying that because you hate republicans

How many way would Obama have to say no taxes for small businesses and 95% of people before you get it? I guess that is way to are republican it seems to be a problem you guys have, listening that is.



The effective tax rate is the amount of tax an individual or firm pays when all other government tax offsets or payments are applied, divided by the tax base (total income or spending).[2] If certain groups have high degrees of tax offsets compared to other groups, their effective tax rate will be lower, even where their official tax rates and marginal tax rates will be equal. The effective rate of tax can often be discussed in terms of the effective marginal rate of tax - namely the amount of effective tax paid as a percentage of the last dollar earned or spent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_rate


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Wed 10/15/08 08:09 PM



I think Mccain looked like a desperate old man. especialy when he tried to spin a tax increase on the wealthy into a tax increase on "joe the plumber" what a joke that was.


You are just saying that because you hate republicans
I only hate what the republicans have done to my country.


Do you think America Hating liberals are any better? I have seen nothing but liberals putting down their own country.... Liberals who bow down to the rest of the world..... Look at Michael Moore... Says Nothing positive about America....


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Wed 10/15/08 08:11 PM
Republican politicians are not the only ones responsible for the problems in this country. There are currently democrats serving in political positions and have been democratic presidents as well as republican ones throughout history as well.

And let's not forget the apathy of the general public. What percent of people normally vote?

So sit around and complain about EVERYONE ELSE all you like, but we are doing this to ourselves.

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Wed 10/15/08 08:11 PM

Lower taxes means Squat if you don't have a job!!!

why are manufacturing jobs going over seas??????

35%corporate tax rate....wake up......

Do you even know what your "effective tax rate" is??






I think Mccain looked like a desperate old man. especialy when he tried to spin a tax increase on the wealthy into a tax increase on "joe the plumber" what a joke that was.


You are just saying that because you hate republicans

How many way would Obama have to say no taxes for small businesses and 95% of people before you get it? I guess that is way to are republican it seems to be a problem you guys have, listening that is.

Yes, I also know that it is about the greed of corporations that go to countries that have poor regulations and cheap labor. Giving them tax cuts have not stopped them from fleeing. They do not care about us we should tax any product American companies make outside of the country. Period.

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Wed 10/15/08 08:13 PM
more taxes...that's your solution????? Nice



Lower taxes means Squat if you don't have a job!!!

why are manufacturing jobs going over seas??????

35%corporate tax rate....wake up......

Do you even know what your "effective tax rate" is??






I think Mccain looked like a desperate old man. especialy when he tried to spin a tax increase on the wealthy into a tax increase on "joe the plumber" what a joke that was.


You are just saying that because you hate republicans

How many way would Obama have to say no taxes for small businesses and 95% of people before you get it? I guess that is way to are republican it seems to be a problem you guys have, listening that is.

Yes, I also know that it is about the greed of corporations that go to countries that have poor regulations and cheap labor. Giving them tax cuts have not stopped them from fleeing. They do not care about us we should tax any product American companies make outside of the country. Period.

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Wed 10/15/08 08:13 PM
Edited by heartSoul on Wed 10/15/08 08:15 PM
double post

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Wed 10/15/08 08:14 PM




I think Mccain looked like a desperate old man. especialy when he tried to spin a tax increase on the wealthy into a tax increase on "joe the plumber" what a joke that was.


You are just saying that because you hate republicans
I only hate what the republicans have done to my country.


Do you think America Hating liberals are any better? I have seen nothing but liberals putting down their own country.... Liberals who bow down to the rest of the world..... Look at Michael Moore... Says Nothing positive about America....


News Flash..........watch the news if your honest there isnt alot of good to talk about.

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Wed 10/15/08 08:14 PM

thanks for the google search but it was a question to you....
What was you effective tax rate the last year you filed????

Do you know????





Lower taxes means Squat if you don't have a job!!!

why are manufacturing jobs going over seas??????

35%corporate tax rate....wake up......

Do you even know what your "effective tax rate" is??






I think Mccain looked like a desperate old man. especialy when he tried to spin a tax increase on the wealthy into a tax increase on "joe the plumber" what a joke that was.


You are just saying that because you hate republicans

How many way would Obama have to say no taxes for small businesses and 95% of people before you get it? I guess that is way to are republican it seems to be a problem you guys have, listening that is.



The effective tax rate is the amount of tax an individual or firm pays when all other government tax offsets or payments are applied, divided by the tax base (total income or spending).[2] If certain groups have high degrees of tax offsets compared to other groups, their effective tax rate will be lower, even where their official tax rates and marginal tax rates will be equal. The effective rate of tax can often be discussed in terms of the effective marginal rate of tax - namely the amount of effective tax paid as a percentage of the last dollar earned or spent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_rate




not off hand I don't, but I know my money doesn't go as far as it used to since Bush and his cronies have run the American government into the ground...

How's that working for you?
Or has the shape the economy is in had NO affect on your life whatsoever?

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Wed 10/15/08 08:16 PM
so for 8 years it has been bad for you or just the last two.....


you don't know your effective tax rate???? maybe you should pay more!!!!



double post

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Wed 10/15/08 08:19 PM





I think Mccain looked like a desperate old man. especialy when he tried to spin a tax increase on the wealthy into a tax increase on "joe the plumber" what a joke that was.


You are just saying that because you hate republicans
I only hate what the republicans have done to my country.


Do you think America Hating liberals are any better? I have seen nothing but liberals putting down their own country.... Liberals who bow down to the rest of the world..... Look at Michael Moore... Says Nothing positive about America....


News Flash..........watch the news if your honest there isnt alot of good to talk about.


Even when there is something good, you liberals cannot say anything good

"For once I am proud to be a American" Michelle Obama

Perfect Liberal she is

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Wed 10/15/08 08:22 PM

so for 8 years it has been bad for you or just the last two.....


you don't know your effective tax rate???? maybe you should pay more!!!!



double post



I pay my share, so don't go there
and you don't know anything about me to judge me

the last 8 years have been bad for the average American
while the rich got richer, the middle class became
non-existent, and the poor became poorer

at least Obama wants to help
and those that make more should help more

Why should the tax increases fall on those that make barely enough to feed their children or keep a roof over their heads?

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Wed 10/15/08 08:22 PM
noway noway noway noway noway noway noway noway noway noway noway noway noway noway noway noway

the facts scared them all away!!!


kerbear73's photo
Wed 10/15/08 08:23 PM


so for 8 years it has been bad for you or just the last two.....


you don't know your effective tax rate???? maybe you should pay more!!!!



double post



I pay my share, so don't go there
and you don't know anything about me to judge me

the last 8 years have been bad for the average American
while the rich got richer, the middle class became
non-existent, and the poor became poorer

at least Obama wants to help
and those that make more should help more

Why should the tax increases fall on those that make barely enough to feed their children or keep a roof over their heads?


If Obama wanted to help, he could have done more in the senate.... Instead there is nothing remarkable with his name on it....

madisonman's photo
Wed 10/15/08 08:25 PM


so for 8 years it has been bad for you or just the last two.....


you don't know your effective tax rate???? maybe you should pay more!!!!



double post



I pay my share, so don't go there
and you don't know anything about me to judge me

the last 8 years have been bad for the average American
while the rich got richer, the middle class became
non-existent, and the poor became poorer

at least Obama wants to help
and those that make more should help more

Why should the tax increases fall on those that make barely enough to feed their children or keep a roof over their heads?
damn right !

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Wed 10/15/08 08:25 PM
where is the judgment???

if you don't know what you pay into the system how can you complain about it!!!




if someone worked harder and made better financial decisions then the "masses" they should be penalized.....????????????
and pay more!!!!

sounds like the communist manifesto

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Wed 10/15/08 08:25 PM






I think Mccain looked like a desperate old man. especialy when he tried to spin a tax increase on the wealthy into a tax increase on "joe the plumber" what a joke that was.


You are just saying that because you hate republicans
I only hate what the republicans have done to my country.


Do you think America Hating liberals are any better? I have seen nothing but liberals putting down their own country.... Liberals who bow down to the rest of the world..... Look at Michael Moore... Says Nothing positive about America....


News Flash..........watch the news if your honest there isnt alot of good to talk about.


Even when there is something good, you liberals cannot say anything good

"For once I am proud to be a American" Michelle Obama

Perfect Liberal she is
:laughing: This is coming from the guy that thinks Sarah Palin should be President because she is hot!:laughing: LOL:laughing:

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Wed 10/15/08 08:25 PM



so for 8 years it has been bad for you or just the last two.....


you don't know your effective tax rate???? maybe you should pay more!!!!



double post



I pay my share, so don't go there
and you don't know anything about me to judge me

the last 8 years have been bad for the average American
while the rich got richer, the middle class became
non-existent, and the poor became poorer

at least Obama wants to help
and those that make more should help more

Why should the tax increases fall on those that make barely enough to feed their children or keep a roof over their heads?


If Obama wanted to help, he could have done more in the senate.... Instead there is nothing remarkable with his name on it....
McCains been there 20 plus years...What has he done?

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