On the planet I came from personal achievement and intellectualism is considered a GOOD thing. Qualities we tend to want in our leaders

I agree... n that's the paradox... personal achievement has no place in politics... if ur n a position of power ur supposed 2 serve the ppl... remember only absolute power corrupts absolutely but power still corrupts... what we're facing is a "who's gonna save us crisis"... time 2 buck up n save ourselves

Personal achievement has no place in politics?Thats odd.Who are we supposed to elect?A homeless bum?Everybody should want to be succesful in their life.

It figures even you wont answer the question..20 plus years hes had and nothing comes to mind..Truley pathetic for such a far right wing nut. Signed the lonney left..

morning, I actually stayed awake and even watched the post shows and polls. Here is my take -

Obama - eloquent, spoken like a true leader
McCain - came out with an agenda to discredit Obama (my opinion didnt work) actually looked rather foolish mocking cameras (jmo)

Obama - handled all the questions professionally, answered and responded to the barrage of hatred spewed by McCains responses.
McCain - Body language too easy of a read, contempt, dislike, and sad to say mocking thereby taking away from the importance of debate. Stayed clear of answering certain question like what to cut, vague answers no real objective. jmo

McCain - kept bringing up Ayers, Acorn, which I think Obama has satisfied before, yet he kept plugging never providing anything new

Obama - a little too gentlemanly at times (did not lower standards to take advantage and belittle other candidates (Palin) yet allowed McCain to sneak in little snubs. Would have liked a little more aggression.

Both candidates should be melded and should run as one, both have some good ideas, both have some ridiculous ideas, and some have tomorrow as their vision.

These attacks, debates take away from both candidates more than they supply the viewing public with information we want. The childish ranting of speaking negatively is a waste of time. jmo

No... we shouldn't elect a bum. Personal achievement IS needed in a leader... but so is humility n honesty... im not attacking mccain or obama... im just saying that politicians in general have a really egotistical view of themselves...

I think Obama kept his kool in many aspects including calling McCain out on the lies about ACORN, his terrorist ties and the so called fines that Obama allegedly said he was going to place on small businesses if they didn't offer health insurance, as well as clearing up the fact that the only reason Obama voted down the abortion law was because it didn't contain all of the much needed information about women's health issues nor the fact that there was already a law in place on the books. Futile attempts that McCain used to try to make Obama look bad.....again.

I applauded Obama when he kept his head up and focused on the tasks needed to be focused on when the question was asked about how the campaign ads were despicable and hurtful toward the other candidate. I thought poor McCain was going to start crying he was so hurt from some of the supporters campaigns, especially when he said 'and you didn't even repute it'. oh boo hoo. FOCUS MCCAIN if you can't handle the heat...get out of the kitchen.

The only thing I saw that McCain did right was to mention Mr. Joe the plumber's name so much that even if his taxes WERE raised, his publicity will more than make up for it.

Overall, I think McCain did a bit better in trying to win over the undecided votes, but a day late and a dollar short. He was still pointing fingers and trying to put Obama down rather than giving the undecided voters what they needed to hear.

I don't understand what's wrong with Obama calling his white grandmother a "typical white woman".

i don't recall him saying that but i did miss a bit here and there. even if he did, he was probably just responding to the ridiculous racial comments about him being black (he is half white too) but i guess most forget that part

just when i started to dream about Joe SixPack, come to find out he's only a plumber.

Why should it matter to you or anyone, if I call 'my grandmother' not yours, a typical white woman/ a typical latina woman/ a typical black woman? Yes can be taken out of context by those who dont know better, a typical latina in my eyes may not mean what you perceive it to be, but people I am talking about 'my grandmother' why should anyone get involved?

it's just the republicans grasping at straws to try to make Obama look bad.

everyone knows he's doing very well in the election.

Somebody brought it up on here but it didn't happen at the debate.

I wonder if the Joe's out there are getting teased about Joe SixPack and Joe Plumber. I imagine that they are.

not sure who others responded, but I was actually tired of hearing about the plumber, he wants to buy his business that he has been working 10-12 hrs for years. Big f'ing deal (jmo) - congrats if he's able to; continue trying if you cant right now.

McCain kept saying Obama wants to spread Joe the Plumbers money around, hell, I thought Joe the Plumber couldnt buy the business - all those hypothetical questions, responses, scenarios did nothing but make me tire of Joe the Plumber.

If he's able to buy - Congratulations
If he finds he's unable to buy right now - do like the most of us, wait, save and try again

not a major science. jmo

"Joe Plumber" was mentioned over a dozen times.

I found the video of him talking to Joe Plumber.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ym1-jkuZ8s

polls said he was mentioned by McCain alone over 20 times - times should have been better spent of actual issues not hypothetical situations

Which states do you think Mccain will win and do you think he has a chance to win at the last minute. This reminds me of the Al Gore and Bush Presidency. I mean goodness it look like Al Gore was going to win and at the last minute (puff) Bush won. Will this be repeat in history?

Would Obama need a 20 point lead to ensure his election because of this ACORN situation and other voting frauds?

I'm not a rebublican... I get it... I did the math. Ain't no way 95% of americans get a tax break... whats more is that by the time his plan is fully implemented taxes will have to be raised on a larger and larger segment of the population to PAY FOR IT ALL.

You been LIED to. I will not even be polite enough to call is SPIN... A lie is a lie.

Im an independent and I get it too. McCain isnt going to raise taxes he just want to tax other things..Same thing no!! To tax health care, something that is already unaffordable to so many is the wrong way to go..So I guess you have been lied to also. To say health care costs $5800 yearly, maybe 15 yrs ago he could say that. Alot of people have to pay more than that a year to be covered by their employer ins. Alot of employees have to pay out of pocket to be on the employer health care..In 1996 my percentage was $345 month for my family(Me and my daughter) to be covered..So his plan will cost people their coverage and not help anyone obtain it...Show me where it does!!!!!

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