Because its not for hunting It's our last defense againet a runaway government.

Most gun restrictions that are practiced are against the constitution....



"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
-Thomas Jefferson, Proposed Virginia Constitution, 1776, Jefferson Papers 344

"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them." -George Mason, during Virginia's ratification convention, 1788


"The said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press, or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms..." Samuel Adams

Shotguns and rifle's come in semi-automatic forms. All " semi " automatic means is that shots can be fired in a faster way.

The main problem ( and what I think is being missed here because of a misconception ) is the guns that are modified to be fully automatic.

With a semi auto shotgun or rifle, the trigger still has to be pulled every time the person wants to fire the gun.

On full auto, the trigger is pulled once and the bullets are automatically chambered for the next round to fire.

As far as protecting yourself without a semi automatic shotgun. Most states have laws against a person using " deadly force " even in defense of his own home or well being.

Basically, it means you cannot " shoot to kill " someone who is intruding in your house or physically threatening or assaulting you.

You can shoot the person in the leg or something, but that is not always going to stop them on the first try.

If it doesn't, you sure don't want to be screwing around with a bolt action when that person is still coming after you.

Also its been proven time and time again that gun restrictions are related to high crime rates...


Lt. Lowell Duckett: "Gun control has not worked in D.C. The only people who have guns are criminals. We have the strictest gun laws in the nation and one of the highest murder rates. It's quicker to pull your Smith & Wesson than to dial 911 if you're being robbed." Special Assistant to DC Police Chief; President, Black Police Caucus, The Washington Post, March 22, 1996.


"25 States allow anyone to buy a gun, strap it on, and walk down the street with no permit of any kind: some say it's crazy. However, 4 out of 5 US murders are committed in the other half of the country: so who is crazy?" -- Andrew Ford

Heres an Idea, BAN STUPID PEOPLE. Its not the guns that kill people, there just a tool. If guns kill people, u can blame misspelled words on your pencil! (Quote, LCG)


Natural Selection would end that controversy

Um, the point is to give yourself a chance at self protection. As someone the has been under fire before i can safetly say you may very well need at least a semi auto weapon to protect yourself. The first shot only counts 10% of the time. What's REALLY discouraging is when you shoot someone that is trying to kill you and it doesn't seem to effect them with the first shot or two.

Point is, gun restrictions are much too tight as it is. If you believe there should be more, move to another country, out of reach by this constitution...(i.e. China)

`Firearms have been around for over 400 years, yet it is only in the last 20 years that people have begun shouting "gun control". Why then, only recently, has this become such an issue? Moreover, why are there more mass-murderers than at any other time in our known history? It is not because weapons are more powerful -- 200-year-old muzzleloaders have a much greater force-per-round than today's "assault rifles". It is not because weapons are semi- or fully-automatic -- rapid-fire weapons have been available for most of the last century. It is not due to a lack of laws -- we have more "gun control" laws
than ever. It IS, however, because we have chosen to focus on "gun control" instead of crime control or "thug control." It IS because only recently has the public become complacent enough to accept, by inaction, the violence present in our society.' - Kevin Langston, Tuesday, 29 October, 1991

`Firearms have been around for over 400 years, yet it is only in the last 20 years that people have begun shouting "gun control". Why then, only recently, has this become such an issue? Moreover, why are there more mass-murderers than at any other time in our known history? It is not because weapons are more powerful -- 200-year-old muzzleloaders have a much greater force-per-round than today's "assault rifles". It is not because weapons are semi- or fully-automatic -- rapid-fire weapons have been available for most of the last century. It is not due to a lack of laws -- we have more "gun control" laws
than ever. It IS, however, because we have chosen to focus on "gun control" instead of crime control or "thug control." It IS because only recently has the public become complacent enough to accept, by inaction, the violence present in our society.' - Kevin Langston, Tuesday, 29 October, 1991

what difference does it make

when the govt takes away all your liberties and there is a revolt the gun control fanatics will be out trying to get the best gun they can

kinda like when they had the riots in l a

anyone who hunts for sport,and nothing but sport, is a despicable human being

did I just read..." ain't got no business "...so it ain't so Joe...gulp !!

I completely agree with the last post.

Anyone who hunts just for sport is an ass.

Here's a little rant about hunting.

Anyone who thinks that hunters are just going about killing everything that moves is wrong.

Yes, a gun gives a hunter a tremendous advantage over a hunter who has a spear...well wait...I am going to take that back. That's not completely true. Depends what you are hunting and where.

Hunting (when it's not a staged hunt) requires real skill and patience. It is from my personal experience a spiritual experience.

I have never met a hunter who wanted to hurt an animal. I know to a non-hunter that will sound odd but it's true I think. Hunters want a quick clean kill. They respect their preys skill of evasion and the revel in outsmarting their prey.

Hunters also contribute more to wildlife area preservation than non-hunters.

If you dont like guns dont buy one but dont slam us law abiding citizens that have them

A little off topic here, but Uncle is a good shot with guns, and has automatic weapons all over the house ( that are loaded, and he showed me where they all were so i would accidentally find one and get killed). Then you come to my room and see my sword collection lined on the walls, which are all sharpened and can cut thru watermelons easily.

So if someone breaks into this house, the cops won't be able to identify the body with all the weaponry here

The only issue I have with this is I hope that the "good" guy who is not mentally well but well enough to have a gun and decides to play target practice at the mall because he is pissed off, that he only hits the other "good" guys with guns and none of the innocent bystanders like a kid or an adult who does not think guns are good in any sense.

You can always tell the guys who have guns, they act just a bit more cocky. Walking or driving around waiting impatiently for someone to let them use the gun.


I believe every smart, level headed, even tempered, psychologically well, respectful person should be able to own a gun if they so please. The problem is that the majority of who I listed above find absolutely no reason to own a gun because of the reasons I listed above and that IS A BIG PROBLEM.

I agree. What kind of mindset does it take to do that?? Not a good one, me thinks.

i have lived in 2 states, both southern where guns are a way of life for most true born southerners. i grew up hunting and feeding myself with fresh meat and fresh homegrown veggies. to me gun control is hitting what the hell you aim at. as far as home defense, there aint too many crooks that will stay in a home when they here a shotgun jack a round into the chamber. i have had sheriffs deputies tell me if someone was trying to break into my home unload on them and if they fall out of the door to drag them in. but both states i live in have self defense laws. when guns get banned honest law abiding citizens abide by the rules and the crooks, ie the drug dealers, gang bangers, and all around bad boys get their hands on them with ease.

Here's a solution... Course manditory in highschool - firearms safety, handling, caring, and carrying...

Upon highschool graduation every citizen, unless given a violent history of constant arrest, or sever mental disorder, is issued a military grade firearm and 500 bullets to go with it. Not to mention permission to carry it anywhere... except bars.

Me thinks that would drastically reduce our crime rate...

It's like everything else, cars - everything improves, technology advances:

guns
revolvers
semi automatic
automatic

why not use it if available?

(opposing view)