Let's forget about mccain and obama and focus on the parties they represent. Thoughts?

I could go on and on about this one.

Fact of the matter is, the lesser of two evils is still evil.

isn't that the way politics in any country are?
one party has bad ideas, the other has no ideas

well, I'm registered republican but I'm certainly not a straight party type person...

especially when I've stumbled into all the information that I have recently... Now I'm not supporting the republicrats at all this election... I'll be voting Constitution Party

The problem is there are plenty of other viable candidates, but since the media and so on is owned by like, 5 big corporations, and the political parties own much of those companies, the only political coverage is republican or democrat.

But I, for one, am tired of the 2-party system, I'm tired of those said 2 parties destroying the constitution for their own gain, and I'm tired of this country spiraling downward... and I have faith that in the next couple elections other people are going to start feeling the same way I do and things will change.

they both have the same destination

just different routes to get there

Hey hey future politician in the room................we are not all bad..........

who is we

dems

dems try to buy there way to the destination with entitlements

there's a list of things i don't like about the republicans, but i'm not going to bother. the democrats on the other hand, what were they doing while the republicans were ruining the country? nothing! as far as i'm concerned they're the other party. they have to go on television and do whatever the hell they have to f'in do to get us to pay attention.

Im speaking for all politicians who are trying to do right for the people..................

iwould like to see five of those on the fed level

Yet you and everyone else votes for the morons but wants to blame the politicians............look everyone has a job and a politicians job is to tell you what you would like to hear............if you are fool to believe them then its YOUR BAD...............

There are good and bad politicians in all parties, it's just that the ones who seem to end up in power tend to be no good...

It shouldn't be this way.

Lies, and outspending for ads to push those lies.

Ly-ing king, spread the lies

http://www.overstream.net/view.php?oid=n1ronxelmtin

they even made a cartoon about it. BB

PS> If you think it is okay to lie just to get
elected, you'll fit right in (and really love the above video/cartoon, not take offense at all). I for one, think we deserve more. BB

ok, lets try this again,
let's say that it's a dead heat between obama and mccain and only one vote is needed to decide the winner (winner... ha!) and you've been chosen to to try to get the last voter to choose whoever your choice for president is, what would you tell the person?

Oh, what you have to say is more important than what I have to say?? NOT and you can't even do it respectfully!

People like you,,,,,,,,

Thats its an electoral college and you cant because its not a populous vote................

I want McCain too, here's part of the reason why
(copying post from another thread)


I agree about debit, but let's look at O's plan, FAR MORE debt and for far longer.....(do we need/want to pay for child day care??)

http://www.realdemocracy.com/no2party.htm

--copy--For instance, consider two sweeping new entitlements that Obama plans to offer for all Americans – universal (but, he insists, “voluntary”) federally-funded pre-school for all children starting at age three, and a low-cost, heavily subsidized federal health insurance plan for every low or middle income American who wants it.

A President Obama would no doubt promote such proposals in his first year in office and a compliant, heavily-Democratic Congress would approve them promptly—perhaps making the benefits even more generous. This means that before the next election, tens of millions (probably hundreds of millions) of American families will take advantage of “free” pre-kindergarten education (and day care), as well as cheap, subsidized (to the tune of at least $160 billion per year) health insurance. The chances of ever taking away such goodies are nil --- Presidents may come and go, but entitlements are forever. New government give-aways may accomplish nothing constructive but they’re all but impossible to eliminate once they’re up and running.
--snip--Obama’s new entitlements will similarly survive all attempts to eliminate them. If he becomes President we’ll be permanently stuck not just with federal pre-school and a subsidized health insurance guarantee (Obama described it as a “right” in the last debate), but with a $4,000 annual check (a so-called “refundable tax credit”) to all “non-wealthy” college students, a doubling of the Peace Corps, vast increases in AmeriCorps, new billions for “National Service,” a tripling of the foreign aid budget (a specific Obama promise) and much, much more. For those who believe it’s easy to reduce or erase such spending in future administrations, consider the example of Bill Clinton’s cherished “service program” AmeriCorps (which pays its “volunteers” close to $30,000 a year). Gingrich, George W. Bush and countless other conservatives recognize that this is a wasteful, crooked, outrageous effort to use taxpayer money to fund leftist activism, but even when the GOP controlled all levers of government they made no progress in slaughtering the monster.
Aside from the ongoing growth of government and the waste of public money, other changes brought about by President Obama will prove to be unalterable and devastating: in his first year, he will authorize gays serving openly in the military, and hasten the national imposition of homosexual marriage (he’s pledged to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act).

He will also get the chance to appoint at least two, and perhaps as many as four new justices to the Supreme Court of the United States. All legal observers expect Obama’s nominees to embrace an even more activist, leftist view of the Constitution and legal system than Clinton’s appointees, Breyer and Ginzburg. The damage from the remaking of the court could prove incalculable. There is also no chancesof impeaching any Supreme Court Justice (short of a credible murder or rape charge) even if Republicans re-take control in some future Congress. The GOP (led by Jerry Ford as House Minority Leader) tried to gain traction for impeachment efforts to counteract the wildly destructive excesses of the Warren Court but got absolutely nowhere and managed, mostly, to embarrass themselves.
(ARE U READING THIS??)

Finally, and perhaps most fatally, a President Obama will radically revamp our already broken immigration system and permanently remake the country, politically and demographically.

Most conservatives passionately opposed the sweeping immigration reform promoted in 2007 by President Bush, Senator McCain (and, it must be noted, a majority of Republican members of the US Senate) because it granted a complicated path to legalization for some of the millions of illegal immigrants who are already here. Those concerned citizens who celebrated “victory” last year with the collapse of the immigration compromise should prepare themselves for a much more liberal, forgiving reform under Obama (and his supportive Congress) that will make legalization far easier, and will include far more of the illegals as future voters and citizens

If the government hands out goodies to various constituencies, those segments of the population will continue to support the idea of enriching themselves with other people’s money.

That’s the biggest threat of an Obama presidency: the creation of vast new groups of dependent Americans who will comprise an unassailable new coalition that will enjoy iron control of our politics for a generation or more. If you start with newly legalized immigrant voters (with as many as 10 million new Democrats totally beholden to Obama and company) and then add the beneficiaries of government pre-school, the new nursery school teachers, the recipients and administrators of federal health insurance, federal college grants, the businesses who’ll enjoy the $150 billion in promised subsidies for “alternative energy,” the companies and employees of the vast increases in “infra-structure” spending (lots more bridges to nowhere), the non-tax payers who will suddenly receive a $1,000 per household check (under the guise of “refundable tax credit,” and many, many more. ---end copy---

OUR money, our children's debit, sure hope people see it for what it is - and isn't!! BB

just work with me, this is the point of the thread, for some reason it just turned into a mudslinging-fest. swing-vote...

I did do it respectfully...........its called satire with a hint of sarcasm...........

Ok well its up to the person so if you think you are capable of influencing someone then try to do it...................but i dont recommend it..........it get ugly later.....