Topic: For President (Republican - Colorado)
Fanta46's photo
Tue 04/03/07 06:40 PM
Congressman Thomas G. "Tom" Tancredo
(Republican - Colorado)


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BIOGRAPHICAL FACTS:

POLITICAL: State Representative, 1977-81 (elected: 1976, 1978, 1980).
Regional Representative, US Department of Education, 1981-92. US
Congressman, 1999 - present (elected: 1998, 2000, 2002, 2004). Founder,
Team America PAC, 2005.

PROFESSIONAL: Junior High School Teacher, 1968-76. President,
Independence Institute (libertarian think-tank), 1993-98.

EDUCATION: B.A., University of Northern Colorado, 1968.

PERSONAL: Born December 20, 1945, in Denver, Colorado. Married to Jackie
Tancredo since 1977. Two children. Presbyterian.

Fanta46's photo
Tue 04/03/07 06:42 PM
I like this guy so far!
Check him out, See what you think.drinker

BigGlenn's photo
Tue 04/03/07 06:42 PM
I hope he brings the illegal alien problem to light. But I'm hopin' Newt
gets in the race.

hosea1's photo
Tue 04/03/07 06:46 PM
man, if we vote in another republican, i think i would shoot myself

BigGlenn's photo
Tue 04/03/07 06:49 PM
If you're gonna do something, do it right.

Fanta46's photo
Tue 04/03/07 06:55 PM
Ive said before Im an American, neither Democrat, or Republian.
Ive heard this man speak several times in the last 5 years, and I like
what he says. You should at least listen to him. Why does a candidate
have to be Democrat, or a Republican, for people to consider them? I
like John Edwards too.

Fanta46's photo
Tue 04/03/07 07:06 PM
I vote for a man, not a party!!

BigGlenn's photo
Tue 04/03/07 07:11 PM
Fanta,
I vote for the man too. But I have to admit that I'm a conservative
thinker and I think the left is too far left. The right doesn't thrill
me either these days. I like Rudy too.

Fanta46's photo
Tue 04/03/07 07:18 PM
I hear ya BG, and you werent the one saying Im sick of republicans. I
would agree with, "Im sick of Bush and his group of cronies and sheep,
but to say all Republicans are the same would be wrong.

no photo
Thu 04/05/07 02:50 AM
I'll check both Tancredo and Edwards out...Rudy..as in Guiliani?

no photo
Thu 04/05/07 05:20 AM
Fanta46,

At first glance, he appears to be a 'ONE ISSUE' candidate: Immigration
control: 'No to Amnesty', and 'Enforce Immigatrion Laws'.

It seems that his campaign drive is strictly designed to raise attention
on the immigration situation, where he takes the tough 'build a fence'
approach.

While this is only one article, it seems to summarize the tone of a
large part of the information we find on his official web site.

(Fanta: questions for you below the article)


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Immigration's Simple: "Enforce the Law" - 4/3/2007

Candidate Tancredo welcomed times 2

By Karen E. Crummy, Denver Post Staff Writer The Denver Post Article
Launched:04/03/2007 01:00:00 AM MDT

Des Moines, Iowa - Both sides of the immigration debate backed U.S. Rep.
Tom Tancredo's entry Monday into the 2008 presidential race, saying his
presence would attract more attention to immigration reform and
enforcement.

Tancredo, who announced his candidacy on an Iowa talk radio show, made
it clear that illegal immigration would be the focus, perhaps the entire
focus, of his campaign.

The other Republican presidential candidates, he said, have been too
weak on the issue.

"I looked at the field of candidates, and no one is going to do it. No
one is going to make this issue a primary part of their campaign," he
said on "Mickelson in the Morning" on Des Moines' WHO-AM. "I want to
enforce the law. And I know that's scary for a lot of my colleagues."

Tancredo, who admits he's a long shot and is already more than $20
million behind Republican fundraising leader Mitt Romney, nonetheless
has core supporters around the country.

He has consistently criticized the Bush administration's proposal to
provide a pathway to legal immigration even for current illegal
immigrants. White House political adviser Karl Rove has told him "never
to darken the doorstep of the White House," Tancredo says.

Tancredo believes in eliminating incentives for immigrants to come to
the U.S. and building a fence along the border with Mexico. Tancredo
also backs deportation of illegal immigrants and legally taking to task
any companies that hire them.

John Keeley of the Center for Immigration Studies, which seeks to limit
immigration, said Tancredo's entry into the race will keep the
immigration issue "on the front burner," especially for first-tier
candidates.

The immigrant-rights side agreed.
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While I think a 'one issue' candidate drive can be effective in raising
the attention and possibly influence direction of the future admin., he
needs a lot of campaign money (shows support), and needs to make a lot
of noise to make a dent.

Right now, he's 20M$ behind in fundraising from his closest
competitition (that means around 1M$).

Do you really think Fanta, that Tancredo is a serious Presidential
contender?

Do you think the immigration question will take that much room in the
campaign?

What are the numbers on this issue (support for the 'build a fence'
approach) ?

I have no vote in the matter, as you know Fanta. I'm just interested in
your read of this situation.



BigGlenn's photo
Thu 04/05/07 05:37 AM
Hey CCP,
Yes Guilliani. I lived in the city while he was mayor and witnessed 1st
hand how he turned it around. When he took over from Dinkins, The place
was a filthy ,near bankrupt sty. Times Square was fillrd with XXX movie
theaters and hookers. Rudy cleaned up a town that was given up on by its
own citizens.

Fanta46's photo
Fri 04/06/07 08:25 AM
Voil, I have said before that the immigration issue is the most
important issue among candidants in the presidential election to me. Tom
does not want to waste government time and money making new immigration
laws, which we dont need, he just wants to enforce the current laws on
immigration. These laws are fair and just laws, we do not need new laws,
we only need to enforce the ones that are in the books.
He has other stances as well, look at his resume, and you will see that
he is an educator by profession. This cannot be a bad thing in a
country, where there are more people filing for bankruptcy every year
than seek higher education. Look past the immigration, and you will see
an educated man with a lot of good ideas on many issues. Propaganda can
make a candidant look like he is one dimensional, but Tom really isnt.
How can a man with his educational background possibly be one
dimensional? I dont think the perfect candident exists so we have to
look at what is important to us as individual Americans, and take some
good with the bad. Dont you think? Even if he doesnt win at least he has
drawn attention to an important issue besides the war that affects all
americans.

Fanta46's photo
Fri 04/06/07 08:48 AM
LOL, Voil go here
http://tancredo4prez.blogspot.com/

Fanta46's photo
Fri 04/06/07 08:56 AM
He's an American, by god, thats for sure. Thinks a lot like me.
He will damn sure bring more than one issue to the campaigne. This will
be good, because everybody gets a little too focused on the war
sometimes. Check him out!! I dont agree with everything he says, but hes
not shy, and he is not a Bush Sheep!!!

no photo
Fri 04/06/07 09:39 AM
Great reply Fanta!

Thanks.

I have no position on the man, and I'm not knowingly swayed by
propaganda. I simply don't know much about him.

But with your read on the man, and a bit more exploring and reading I
trust I'll get the 'picture' real soon.

Stay tuned.

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Sun 04/08/07 01:17 PM
weren't all of you and your ancestors immigrants at one time into this
land you usurped from the indigenous american indians??

isn't it a bit hypocritical to condemn others for immigrating to the US
legally or illegally when the founding fathers were guilty of the
attrocities of persecuting the Plains Indians? ...


all of a sudden the imperialistic arrogance of America has become
gallingly apparent.

EmotionalTurbulance's photo
Sun 04/08/07 01:24 PM
As long as "Americans" continue to follow capitalist, money drive news,
and filtered information, there will never be any differences made in
the structure we know now.

In order to recognize ourselves as peoples rather than any labels, or
boxed in political tags, we need to step outside the paved kill boxes we
are given for voting in a "popular party", or an underdog...
what-have-you.

Be cannot shove our ideas down the throats of others and then backslide
by calling ourselves "Americans" by doing the same thing by another
name?

Force is force. Wrong is wrong.

All driven by religion and greed. Mans downfall disguised as "aide, and
helping"...