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Topic: Pastor Ted blames everyone except himself
madisonman's photo
Wed 11/12/08 05:26 PM
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. – Disgraced evangelical pastor Ted Haggard says he was sexually abused as a child and that the experience "started to rage in my mind and in my heart" when he was caught up in a sex scandal involving a male prostitute. Haggard made the remarks in two recent sermons in Morrison, Ill., ABC's "Good Morning America" reported Wednesday.

Haggard said one of his father's employees "had a sexual experience with me" when Haggard was 7, according to audio recordings of the sermons posted on the ABC News Web site.

Haggard said he later became "a conservative Republican, loving the word of God, an evangelical, born-again, spirit-filled, charismatic, all those things.

"But some of the things that were buried in the depths of the sea from when I was in the second grade started to rage in my mind and in my heart," he said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081113/ap_on_re_us/disgraced_pastor

Dredz_Hang_Low's photo
Wed 11/12/08 05:35 PM

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. – Disgraced evangelical pastor Ted Haggard says he was sexually abused as a child and that the experience "started to rage in my mind and in my heart" when he was caught up in a sex scandal involving a male prostitute. Haggard made the remarks in two recent sermons in Morrison, Ill., ABC's "Good Morning America" reported Wednesday.

Haggard said one of his father's employees "had a sexual experience with me" when Haggard was 7, according to audio recordings of the sermons posted on the ABC News Web site.

Haggard said he later became "a conservative Republican, loving the word of God, an evangelical, born-again, spirit-filled, charismatic, all those things.

"But some of the things that were buried in the depths of the sea from when I was in the second grade started to rage in my mind and in my heart," he said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081113/ap_on_re_us/disgraced_pastor



haggard is going to hell. he will be down there with pat robertson an all the other hate mongering, gay bashing, prostitute buying, hypocrite, pedophile pastors of this world

i hope they burn, burn, burn.

Lynann's photo
Wed 11/12/08 05:45 PM
Sexual abuse can cause someone to be self destructive.

I don't know the guy or his history.

If he was the victim of abuse I hope he gets help and moves on. Oh, and I hope he quits trying to make a buck off sin. His or other peoples.

I do know that he made some phat cash in the past playing up and to haters.

How many times have we seen this sort of thing before?

Preachers and family values people doing drugs, engaged in affairs same sex and other, personally enriching themselves, divorcing...well all the behaviors they preach against and at the same time engage in.

I wish they'd stfu. Talk the talk. Walk the walk.

You don't need a crystal cathedral or a lear jet to preach the gospel or feed the poor.

You do need a couple bucks to snort coke of a male prostitutes bare back though.

Here's to hoping he privately resolves his issues.

noblenan's photo
Wed 11/12/08 05:47 PM
Child physical, emotional, and sexual abuse is unforgivable and no doubt can have an adverse affect on the adult life. But when something bad happens to me, I don't seek it out and make happen again.
I don't know, maybe I'm just a hard a$$, but I think that has become an easy excuse for bad behavior. Bad in this case being because he had a loving wife and kids, and people all over the world who looked to him for guidance. IMO

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Dredz_Hang_Low's photo
Wed 11/12/08 05:56 PM

Child physical, emotional, and sexual abuse is unforgivable and no doubt can have an adverse affect on the adult life. But when something bad happens to me, I don't seek it out and make happen again.
I don't know, maybe I'm just a hard a$$, but I think that has become an easy excuse for bad behavior. Bad in this case being because he had a loving wife and kids, and people all over the world who looked to him for guidance. IMO

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pretty good excuse, no way to proove it did or didnt happen. and you get to go to the church and get pitty beacause you got touched in the bad place when you where 7.

what an asshole

noblenan's photo
Wed 11/12/08 06:09 PM


Child physical, emotional, and sexual abuse is unforgivable and no doubt can have an adverse affect on the adult life. But when something bad happens to me, I don't seek it out and make happen again.
I don't know, maybe I'm just a hard a$$, but I think that has become an easy excuse for bad behavior. Bad in this case being because he had a loving wife and kids, and people all over the world who looked to him for guidance. IMO

glasses



pretty good excuse, no way to proove it did or didnt happen. and you get to go to the church and get pitty beacause you got touched in the bad place when you where 7.

what an asshole


Exactly!

Quikstepper's photo
Wed 11/12/08 06:11 PM
Edited by Quikstepper on Wed 11/12/08 06:13 PM
WOW! Where's that so called loonie compassion you all wear on your sleeves?

slaphead What was I thinking!?!?! It's as phoney as the loonie LIBS. winking

Dredz_Hang_Low's photo
Wed 11/12/08 06:14 PM

WOW! Where's that so called loonie compassion you all wear on your sleeves?

slaphead What was I thinking!?!?! It's as phoney as the loonie LIBS. winking



go fly a kite.

Lynann's photo
Wed 11/12/08 06:22 PM
Hate and name calling seems to come consistently from some posters here.

Please don't stop.

Every time I see it I am compelled to work for justice and to fight the good fight.

My karma just ran over your dogma.

t22learner's photo
Wed 11/12/08 06:51 PM
I'm coming to the conclusion that trying to squelch the hate here is a complete waste of my time.

Giocamo's photo
Wed 11/12/08 07:12 PM

My karma just ran over your dogma.
noway ...somebody call 911 !!!!


noblenan's photo
Wed 11/12/08 07:20 PM

I'm coming to the conclusion that trying to squelch the hate here is a complete waste of my time.


I'm sorry, t22! I just hate excuses for bad behavior. But, I love being called a loonie libber! That's so cute! Thanks, Quick!

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Giocamo's photo
Wed 11/12/08 07:25 PM


I'm coming to the conclusion that trying to squelch the hate here is a complete waste of my time.


I'm sorry, t22! I just hate excuses for bad behavior. But, I love being called a loonie libber! That's so cute! Thanks, Quick!

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loonie libber...loonie libber...loonie libber...you want it you got it !....laugh ...waving ..." young "...Noble One...lol

Dredz_Hang_Low's photo
Wed 11/12/08 07:30 PM


My karma just ran over your dogma.
noway ...somebody call 911 !!!!





rofl oh im stealing that!

noblenan's photo
Wed 11/12/08 07:31 PM



I'm coming to the conclusion that trying to squelch the hate here is a complete waste of my time.


I'm sorry, t22! I just hate excuses for bad behavior. But, I love being called a loonie libber! That's so cute! Thanks, Quick!

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loonie libber...loonie libber...loonie libber...you want it you got it !....laugh ...waving ..." young "...Noble One...lol


Yeah, you can call me a loonie libber all day long, just DON'T call me old! Them's fightin' words!

:thumbsup:
rofl
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adj4u's photo
Wed 11/12/08 07:32 PM
well as much as i do not want to say this

it is only fair


clergy are not perfect (supposedly) just forgiven


but why is it ok to some that a clergy member have a gay relations

but anyone else that does it is a spoiled brat


insert head scratching emoticon here

adj4u's photo
Wed 11/12/08 07:32 PM




I'm coming to the conclusion that trying to squelch the hate here is a complete waste of my time.


I'm sorry, t22! I just hate excuses for bad behavior. But, I love being called a loonie libber! That's so cute! Thanks, Quick!

glasses


loonie libber...loonie libber...loonie libber...you want it you got it !....laugh ...waving ..." young "...Noble One...lol


Yeah, you can call me a loonie libber all day long, just DON'T call me old! Them's fightin' words!

:thumbsup:
rofl
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what did you say old timer


:wink:

laugh
flowerforyou

noblenan's photo
Wed 11/12/08 07:37 PM





I'm coming to the conclusion that trying to squelch the hate here is a complete waste of my time.


I'm sorry, t22! I just hate excuses for bad behavior. But, I love being called a loonie libber! That's so cute! Thanks, Quick!

glasses


loonie libber...loonie libber...loonie libber...you want it you got it !....laugh ...waving ..." young "...Noble One...lol


Yeah, you can call me a loonie libber all day long, just DON'T call me old! Them's fightin' words!

:thumbsup:
rofl
glasses




what did you say old timer


:wink:

laugh
flowerforyou


Hey, hey, hey! And I was gonna compliment you for putting that whole thread in perspective for me! I just wasn't getting the point of it! Must be the young timers setting in! laugh

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Lynann's photo
Wed 11/12/08 07:39 PM
Heh

I stole it too Dredz...heck it's so old I think you could even buy a bumper sticker that says it.

It works though.

Giocamo's photo
Wed 11/12/08 07:42 PM

Heh

I stole it too Dredz...heck it's so old I think you could even buy a bumper sticker that says it.

It works though.


whachu talkin' bout Willis !...as old as that ?:smile:

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