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Topic: FOX Kansas reports...
Lynann's photo
Mon 11/17/08 01:41 PM
A Kansas preacher is displaying this sign outside his church.

Good stuff eh?

WICHITA, KAN. -- A Wichita, Kansas preacher says he will not remove a message on his church sign that says President-Elect Barack Obama is a Muslim.

The sign is staying up despite the fact that Obama is a Christian.

The sign at Spirit One Christian Center reads, "America we have a Muslim president. This is sin against the Lord."

Obama supporters reportedly got into a shouting match with parishioners outside the church on Sunday.

The sign can be seen at the website http://www.myfoxkc.com/myfox/pages/News/Politics/Detail;jsessionid=4A6EFE9BD2C467ADC2C1D1AF47814DD6?contentId=7882247&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.14.1&sflg=1

ljcc1964's photo
Mon 11/17/08 01:44 PM
Ok then.

polaritybear's photo
Mon 11/17/08 01:52 PM
More evidence that religion makes you crazy.

CleanBathroom's photo
Mon 11/17/08 01:58 PM
Is this not the same thing as a fatwah?

Is anyone paying attention to the fact that the only difference between this preacher and a terrorist is that his life is good enough that he isn't hopeless enough to want to die for a shot at martyrdom?

Lynann's photo
Mon 11/17/08 02:57 PM
I didn't say it was different.

I don't care for religious extremism no matter the religion.

tngxl65's photo
Mon 11/17/08 03:01 PM
Some days I feel so proud huh huh noway noway

Winx's photo
Mon 11/17/08 03:28 PM
Edited by Winx on Mon 11/17/08 03:29 PM

A Kansas preacher is displaying this sign outside his church.

Good stuff eh?

WICHITA, KAN. -- A Wichita, Kansas preacher says he will not remove a message on his church sign that says President-Elect Barack Obama is a Muslim.

The sign is staying up despite the fact that Obama is a Christian.

The sign at Spirit One Christian Center reads, "America we have a Muslim president. This is sin against the Lord."

Obama supporters reportedly got into a shouting match with parishioners outside the church on Sunday.

The sign can be seen at the website http://www.myfoxkc.com/myfox/pages/News/Politics/Detail;jsessionid=4A6EFE9BD2C467ADC2C1D1AF47814DD6?contentId=7882247&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.14.1&sflg=1


Ignorance and lies.frustrated frustrated frustrated



no photo
Mon 11/17/08 03:32 PM
Jezzow..Religion????? OK, I will say this....The protesters are they wrong? Yes!!! Their right to NO!!! OK..I have put much thought into this the last months. I said what Rev Wright was wrong! I will say the Church's (PLURAL) should be able to do what it wants on their property>>>I really want to say tax free property to do what they want as long as they are not breaking the law. The protesters can protest as long as its done within the rights of local jurisdiction. That is JMO

tngxl65's photo
Mon 11/17/08 03:40 PM

Jezzow..Religion????? OK, I will say this....The protesters are they wrong? Yes!!! Their right to NO!!! OK..I have put much thought into this the last months. I said what Rev Wright was wrong! I will say the Church's (PLURAL) should be able to do what it wants on their property>>>I really want to say tax free property to do what they want as long as they are not breaking the law. The protesters can protest as long as its done within the rights of local jurisdiction. That is JMO


The guy is a bit of a radical and says much of what he says for the attention. He believes that this is a christian country and electing any non-christian is a sin.

mnhiker's photo
Mon 11/17/08 03:46 PM

More evidence that religion makes you crazy.


laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

I don't think it has to.

Maybe if you take it (and yourself) too seriously! ohwell

no photo
Mon 11/17/08 03:48 PM


Jezzow..Religion????? OK, I will say this....The protesters are they wrong? Yes!!! Their right to NO!!! OK..I have put much thought into this the last months. I said what Rev Wright was wrong! I will say the Church's (PLURAL) should be able to do what it wants on their property>>>I really want to say tax free property to do what they want as long as they are not breaking the law. The protesters can protest as long as its done within the rights of local jurisdiction. That is JMO


The guy is a bit of a radical and says much of what he says for the attention. He believes that this is a christian country and electing any non-christian is a sin.
To me its wrong!!! I have been debating church and state for days. Plz check some of them out. With what Ive been debating what I said fits. I guess you would have to read or debate on it to see.surprised

tngxl65's photo
Mon 11/17/08 03:51 PM



Jezzow..Religion????? OK, I will say this....The protesters are they wrong? Yes!!! Their right to NO!!! OK..I have put much thought into this the last months. I said what Rev Wright was wrong! I will say the Church's (PLURAL) should be able to do what it wants on their property>>>I really want to say tax free property to do what they want as long as they are not breaking the law. The protesters can protest as long as its done within the rights of local jurisdiction. That is JMO


The guy is a bit of a radical and says much of what he says for the attention. He believes that this is a christian country and electing any non-christian is a sin.
To me its wrong!!! I have been debating church and state for days. Plz check some of them out. With what Ive been debating what I said fits. I guess you would have to read or debate on it to see.surprised


I completely agree it's wrong. But I think he has the right to say what he wants, no matter how ignorant.

Winx's photo
Mon 11/17/08 06:02 PM
Edited by Winx on Mon 11/17/08 06:12 PM




Jezzow..Religion????? OK, I will say this....The protesters are they wrong? Yes!!! Their right to NO!!! OK..I have put much thought into this the last months. I said what Rev Wright was wrong! I will say the Church's (PLURAL) should be able to do what it wants on their property>>>I really want to say tax free property to do what they want as long as they are not breaking the law. The protesters can protest as long as its done within the rights of local jurisdiction. That is JMO


The guy is a bit of a radical and says much of what he says for the attention. He believes that this is a christian country and electing any non-christian is a sin.
To me its wrong!!! I have been debating church and state for days. Plz check some of them out. With what Ive been debating what I said fits. I guess you would have to read or debate on it to see.surprised


I completely agree it's wrong. But I think he has the right to say what he wants, no matter how ignorant.


I agree he can have his own opinion. But..he is teaching lies to others as an authority figure. That is wrong.

Also, this is a sign that anybody driving by can see. That is now advertising lies to the public.

How do I explain that to my child if we drove past it?





no photo
Mon 11/17/08 06:11 PM
I agree as I posted. That really just change in me recently trying to understand it all. But I still have problems when that church as a whole is donating to any political cause at state level...or any level.. As with not for profit or business as a whole. JMO

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Mon 11/17/08 06:18 PM
to the op...the preacher has the right to post and preach anything, true or false, that he sees fit and that his congregation tolerates; as long as it is not treasonous. IMO. The same goes for the protesters, as long as they do not interfer with the rights of the ppl of that church. As for the comment that it can be seen from the street, oh well. If you do not like it, then don't look! Duh...what a novel idea. If you are sitting at the airport next to someone and she is looking at pornographic pics of men, are you going to make a scene and scream and yell and insult her, or are you just going to look over their shoulder quietly?noway laugh

Winx's photo
Mon 11/17/08 06:21 PM

to the op...the preacher has the right to post and preach anything, true or false, that he sees fit and that his congregation tolerates; as long as it is not treasonous. IMO. The same goes for the protesters, as long as they do not interfer with the rights of the ppl of that church. As for the comment that it can be seen from the street, oh well. If you do not like it, then don't look! Duh...what a novel idea. If you are sitting at the airport next to someone and she is looking at pornographic pics of men, are you going to make a scene and scream and yell and insult her, or are you just going to look over their shoulder quietly?noway laugh


Sitting and looking at pornographic pics of men cannot be compared to a sign outside of a church for everybody driving by to see.

willy_cents's photo
Mon 11/17/08 06:28 PM

Sitting and looking at pornographic pics of men cannot be compared to a sign outside of a church for everybody driving by to see.


So, you favor restricting the freedom of speech because someone might be offended by what they see on a sign?? I, perhaps, was offended by all the "change" signs I saw in the last election cycle because I know it will business as usual in Wah, DC. Should they have been removed because I knew that they were false? Or, is it simply because some Obama supporters take offense at any criticism, howbeit false, of him?

Winx's photo
Mon 11/17/08 06:35 PM


Sitting and looking at pornographic pics of men cannot be compared to a sign outside of a church for everybody driving by to see.


So, you favor restricting the freedom of speech because someone might be offended by what they see on a sign?? I, perhaps, was offended by all the "change" signs I saw in the last election cycle because I know it will business as usual in Wah, DC. Should they have been removed because I knew that they were false? Or, is it simply because some Obama supporters take offense at any criticism, howbeit false, of him?


I would be offended by any lie told on a sign. I would be frustrated that I would have to explain such lies to my child.

MirrorMirror's photo
Mon 11/17/08 10:50 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Mon 11/17/08 10:50 PM
"America we have a Muslim president. This is sin against the Lord."



flowerforyou If we did have a muslim president, it would NOT be a sin against the Lord.flowerforyou

polaritybear's photo
Mon 11/17/08 11:04 PM

"America we have a Muslim president. This is sin against the Lord."



flowerforyou If we did have a muslim president, it would NOT be a sin against the Lord.flowerforyou



True. But when the words "sin" and "lord" enter a conversation logic will cease to exist.

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