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 Ja get it all out love?  Hiya honey! |
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Ja get it all out love? Hiya honey! Probably not ...  Hiya honey
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As you know dear, I will not argue your position with you.
I may not agree with the reasoning behind the results, but the results speak for themselves...  Mmmmmuuuah!!!! |
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As you know dear, I will not argue your position with you. I may not agree with the reasoning behind the results, but the results speak for themselves... Mmmmmuuuah!!!! And you know it is the results I care about ... 
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I gotta feeling that Billy will not let you off the hook so easily though...
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I gotta feeling that Billy will not let you off the hook so easily though... I half expected a butt kicking from you too
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Hmmm...
Creating an alternate reality are you?
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Hmmm... Creating an alternate reality are you? nah ... well maybe if it includes teleportation 
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I have told my rheumatologist about what supplements I take and how they help me. On one of them he said it made perfect sense that it would help me and gave me suggestions for another. The others he doesn't know about and told me if they were helping me that's all that mattered. He is happy when I need less prednisone.
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I find the term New Age pretty funny to begin with ... there is nothing new about these concepts at all. Not scientific? I suppose that depends upon whose definition is being used. I would suspect that those in the Orient believe Traditional Chinese Medicine to be scientific. I would also speculate that Ayurvedic medicine is considered scientific in India... There are studies going on right now in a couple of medical teaching centers with regard to energy medicine. If I were a betting woman, my money would be on the medical community wanting to regulate it cuz medicine is big business ... and they are losing market share ... A professor in Calgary was producing amazing results with plants and grain crops using energy medicine techniques. In some cases nearly tripling the yield. Energy medicine has proven very effective on animals who have no 'belief' structure that I am aware of ... so what does that say? I know several vets who also practice energy medicine on their animal patients... Energy, vibration, consciousness ... they are all just words... disagreeing on what to call something does not make it less real ... I read earlier that we don't hear doctors talking about this stuff ... I beg to differ I know a classically trained medical doctor who gets better results using energetic techniques combined with western practices with his patients. I know psychologists who are able to help their patients dump a ton of emotional baggage in very short amounts of time without years of talk therapy. Some might suggest that is not very lucrative but his focus is his patient's well-being ... not his pocketbook ... which is just fine too ... I know many chiropractors who use energetic therapies ... but you know them ... in my lifetime they weren't considered legitimate health professionals ... they were called quacks who just wanted to con you out of your money ... seriously! And now they are recognized health professionals ... go figure ... what was the shift ... was their some massive scientific study? I am sure there were many but I didn't hear about any of them. It seems to me that enough people believed in the efficacy to warrant a shift in perspective ...  Bruce Lipton used to teach cellular biology to medical students. His research done at Stanford questions what we think we know. His studies show that 'genes and DNA do not control our biology; that instead DNA is controlled by signals from outside the cell, including the energetic messages emanating from our positive and negative thoughts hmmm a thought controls biology? What is a thought? Where is its substance? Western medicine recognized nothing that it cannot remove and cut up ... it is very newtonian ... in a world that we are discovering is not so newtonian in the bitty parts... A doctor friend told me that he wasn't even taught about a 'healing system' in medical school. They could cut someone open and see the links of the cardiovascular system or the digestive system or the urinary system ... but 'healing system' ... a synergy of many parts working together but not linked ... hmmm hogwash ... It is only very recently that the term 'healing system' has even come up in the training of our westernized medical doctors. I have seen reports that claim that NO medication has any better results than a placebo ... and yet billions and billions of dollars are spent in development and by patients every year. I find that interesting ... If someone is clairvoyant or clairsentient, there is this push with science to 'show' it so that it can be studied... I get that and I understand why ... but ... perhaps it is less something to be 'done or shown' and more something that must be 'allowed'. The very act of having to prove such a subtle sensory thing could very well shut the door on it preventing further study. With that said ... if they talk loudly ... I don't think they have 'it'... I think our science needs to evolve farther so that we have a language to explore these subtleties. ...but NEW age ... nah ... since the times of antiquity and beyond ... yur mis spilling it mye ladee,it shuld bee - "gnu wage" nod new age - 
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I find the term New Age pretty funny to begin with ... there is nothing new about these concepts at all. Not scientific? I suppose that depends upon whose definition is being used. I would suspect that those in the Orient believe Traditional Chinese Medicine to be scientific. I would also speculate that Ayurvedic medicine is considered scientific in India... There are studies going on right now in a couple of medical teaching centers with regard to energy medicine. If I were a betting woman, my money would be on the medical community wanting to regulate it cuz medicine is big business ... and they are losing market share ... A professor in Calgary was producing amazing results with plants and grain crops using energy medicine techniques. In some cases nearly tripling the yield. Energy medicine has proven very effective on animals who have no 'belief' structure that I am aware of ... so what does that say? I know several vets who also practice energy medicine on their animal patients... Energy, vibration, consciousness ... they are all just words... disagreeing on what to call something does not make it less real ... I read earlier that we don't hear doctors talking about this stuff ... I beg to differ I know a classically trained medical doctor who gets better results using energetic techniques combined with western practices with his patients. I know psychologists who are able to help their patients dump a ton of emotional baggage in very short amounts of time without years of talk therapy. Some might suggest that is not very lucrative but his focus is his patient's well-being ... not his pocketbook ... which is just fine too ... I know many chiropractors who use energetic therapies ... but you know them ... in my lifetime they weren't considered legitimate health professionals ... they were called quacks who just wanted to con you out of your money ... seriously! And now they are recognized health professionals ... go figure ... what was the shift ... was their some massive scientific study? I am sure there were many but I didn't hear about any of them. It seems to me that enough people believed in the efficacy to warrant a shift in perspective ... Bruce Lipton used to teach cellular biology to medical students. His research done at Stanford questions what we think we know. His studies show that 'genes and DNA do not control our biology; that instead DNA is controlled by signals from outside the cell, including the energetic messages emanating from our positive and negative thoughts hmmm a thought controls biology? What is a thought? Where is its substance? Western medicine recognized nothing that it cannot remove and cut up ... it is very newtonian ... in a world that we are discovering is not so newtonian in the bitty parts... A doctor friend told me that he wasn't even taught about a 'healing system' in medical school. They could cut someone open and see the links of the cardiovascular system or the digestive system or the urinary system ... but 'healing system' ... a synergy of many parts working together but not linked ... hmmm hogwash ... It is only very recently that the term 'healing system' has even come up in the training of our westernized medical doctors. I have seen reports that claim that NO medication has any better results than a placebo ... and yet billions and billions of dollars are spent in development and by patients every year. I find that interesting ... If someone is clairvoyant or clairsentient, there is this push with science to 'show' it so that it can be studied... I get that and I understand why ... but ... perhaps it is less something to be 'done or shown' and more something that must be 'allowed'. The very act of having to prove such a subtle sensory thing could very well shut the door on it preventing further study. With that said ... if they talk loudly ... I don't think they have 'it'... I think our science needs to evolve farther so that we have a language to explore these subtleties. ...but NEW age ... nah ... since the times of antiquity and beyond ... Bravo Artgurl.  |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Thu 11/27/08 08:05 AM
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I see a future with more natural healing using natural and mental techniques. (Yes, and energy techniques.)
Drugs are simply natural substances which have been altered in a lab (and sometimes messed up) in order to charge more money for them and require a prescription for them and allow government control over them. The drug industry, legal and prescription is big business and bottom line is run by the same people. While our currency is nothing but paper, gold and guns and drugs is the true currency of the world. People who are dependent on prescription or illegal drugs are slaves of THE STATE. The FDA are quick to jump on natural healing techniques that do not fall under their legal right to control. The propaganda against them is massive. All they can charge is that the therapy does not work and so is a rip off. But are people ever really cured with drugs? Very seldom. Drugs simply mask the symptoms most of the time. Therefore their therapy does not work either and they should be shut down. I believe the body can cure itself but people do not have the right information for natural cures and they don't know what foods we are eating that are killing us. This kind of information is ridiculed and suppressed. You may believe the propaganda they are putting out there to sell their drugs but I don't. Look at some of the side effects. If I take a drug for my "restless leg syndrome" (which is a circulation problem) I may have side effects of an urge to gamble? How ridiculous is that? There are several natural and harmless cures for "restless leg syndrome." It is just poor blood circulation. I have it a lot. A few exercises and some niacin take care of the problem. Also, in order to prescribe a drug the industry has to have a name for the ailment. Hence poor blood circulation becomes "restless leg syndrome." Direct to consumer advertising seeks to convince you that you are afflicted and they have a magic pill to fix you, but you have to "ask your doctor" for it because he is clueless about all these new drugs. Drug pushers (legal ones) come into doctors offices with free samples for the doctors to pass out to their patients. Its a drug business. Beware. THERE IS NO MAGIC PILL TO FIX YOU. |
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In my old age, I hear new age, and I wonder what this age thing might be..........
That which has always been...unlabelled.....and known through heart rather than head. "The longest journey humankind will make, is from their heads to their hearts." - A Sioux thingummy...(saying?) |
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Its a drug business. Beware. THERE IS NO MAGIC PILL TO FIX YOU. I am just as wary of the prescription drug pushers as I am of the holistic healing scammers. The bottom line is that you must be in control of your health care. Know yourself, do your research and work WITH your doctor. Don't just take something because he tells you to without asking questions! |
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Edited by
tribo
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Thu 11/27/08 01:51 PM
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In my old age, I hear new age, and I wonder what this age thing might be.......... That which has always been...unlabelled.....and known through heart rather than head. "The longest journey humankind will make, is from their heads to their hearts." - A Sioux thingummy...(saying?) It's Cherokee i believe, but if by chance i'm wrong you can always - Sioux mee -
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It is by logic that we prove, but by intuition that we discover.
-Henri Poincare http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Poincar%C3%A9 |
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It is by logic that we prove, but by intuition that we discover. -Henri Poincare http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Poincar%C3%A9 "it is by logic that we prove that intuition is the means of discovery" tribopedia.org/trib/Tribo doescare C3%A9 
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"it is by logic that we prove that intuition is the means of discovery" tribopedia.org/trib/Tribo doescare C3%A9
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"Sell your cleverness and buy bewilderment" ~ Rumi
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"Sell your cleverness and buy bewilderment" ~ Rumi sounds like an advertisement for the stock market - where do you by bewilderment?? Costco? bewilderment R us? shouldn't that read - " Be-wilder-meant? |
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