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Edited by
Nohottiesheresrsly
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Tue 12/02/08 11:50 PM
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 Where else could we feature dancing bananas?
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gay marriage goes against everything god intended for the people. A man and a Woman should be married to go off and reproduce etc.
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They were born that way.
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gay marriage goes against everything god intended for the people. A man and a Woman should be married to go off and reproduce etc. what does god have to do with it ----------- Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. --------- that says leave god out of it so till you find a nonreligious argument i agree it should be legal |
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I'm against it also.How does two gay guys explain to their adopted children where babies come from?I also don't believe you are born that way.Scientest have done much research on this issue and have never concluded that a person is born gay.If you are telling me you are born gay then you are basically saying that this person is incapable of loving someone from the opposite sex.Anyone can love someone.
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I'm against it also.How does two gay guys explain to their adopted children where babies come from?I also don't believe you are born that way.Scientest have done much research on this issue and have never concluded that a person is born gay.If you are telling me you are born gay then you are basically saying that this person is incapable of loving someone from the opposite sex.Anyone can love someone. give a reason it should be illegal other than opinion plz i been looking for a nonreligious sound reason for years but i have not found one i wish there was a good reason to make it illegal but per the constitution it should be legal |
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Edited by
Lynann
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Wed 12/03/08 01:51 AM
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So, once a woman is too old to reproduce or if a man is sterile they should not be allowed to marry?
Have heterosexuals done such an outstanding job upholding the institution of marriage that they can say anyone else might not be able to do it better? How many straight people on this site couldn't make marriage work and have mucked up relationships with their spouses and children or at least had a part in mucking it up? Is it better for a kid to be raised in an institution than in a same sex two parent family? If you had a gay child, parent, brother or sister and they were in love and in a committed relationship would you say what you are saying on this board to their face? (humm some of you may) If gay marriage is legal will you be forced to marry someone of the same sex? I could post other obvious questions but it's my bet they will have zero affect on those of you who are so mired in hatred and bigotry that you cannot see any perspective but your own. Look around you. Gay people are your neighbors, co-workers and family members. They are in the clergy, the office buildings and the schools and the state house. Oh and here is a real eye opener...they always have been. |
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Well for one it is not a right.There is nothing mentioned in the orginal Constitution about marriage.There was a amendment added to the Constitution a few years ago saying that "Marriage is between a man and a woman".So for all legal reasons nobody's rights are getting trampled and marriage is between a man and a woman. Gay marriage is not what the majority of people want in the country.It has been voted on many times and rejected.Even a ultra left wing liberal state like California rejected it not once but twice.It was not rejected by a hundred or a thousand but by tens of thousands. Aids is rampant among gay men.Aids is on the rise. Taken from http://www.avert.org/america.htm a Aids charity website Men who have sex with men: At the beginning of America’s epidemic, AIDS primarily affected men who have sex with men (MSM). Today, although there are more high-risk groups, MSM still account for around two thirds of HIV diagnoses among male adults and adolescents.10 There have been concerns that an increasing number of MSM are having unprotected sex, leading to a rise in the number of new HIV infections among this group.11 The CDC has reported that between 2001 and 2006, HIV/AIDS diagnoses among MSM increased by 8.6 percent.12 It is thought that the availability of antiretroviral treatment may have lessened the fear surrounding AIDS, leading to complacency about condom use.13 Children from adopted gays have a higher suicide rate than from other traditional families.Gays live a average of 44 years Gay couples do not care about democracy in America.They do not believe in "Majority rules"(as in our current prop 8 issue).If they win a issue and people complain it's too bad for you.But when they loose they say people are racists,homophobes,and evil.They sue and overturn laws to suit their needs.Speaking out against gays is considered a hate crime in many cities in America. |
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Well for one it is not a right.There is nothing mentioned in the orginal Constitution about marriage.There was a amendment added to the Constitution a few years ago saying that "Marriage is between a man and a woman".So for all legal reasons nobody's rights are getting trampled and marriage is between a man and a woman. Gay marriage is not what the majority of people want in the country.It has been voted on many times and rejected.Even a ultra left wing liberal state like California rejected it not once but twice.It was not rejected by a hundred or a thousand but by tens of thousands. Aids is rampant among gay men.Aids is on the rise. Taken from http://www.avert.org/america.htm a Aids charity website Men who have sex with men: At the beginning of America’s epidemic, AIDS primarily affected men who have sex with men (MSM). Today, although there are more high-risk groups, MSM still account for around two thirds of HIV diagnoses among male adults and adolescents.10 There have been concerns that an increasing number of MSM are having unprotected sex, leading to a rise in the number of new HIV infections among this group.11 The CDC has reported that between 2001 and 2006, HIV/AIDS diagnoses among MSM increased by 8.6 percent.12 It is thought that the availability of antiretroviral treatment may have lessened the fear surrounding AIDS, leading to complacency about condom use.13 Children from adopted gays have a higher suicide rate than from other traditional families.Gays live a average of 44 years Gay couples do not care about democracy in America.They do not believe in "Majority rules"(as in our current prop 8 issue).If they win a issue and people complain it's too bad for you.But when they loose they say people are racists,homophobes,and evil.They sue and overturn laws to suit their needs.Speaking out against gays is considered a hate crime in many cities in America. It's a myth about gay men at the start of the AIDS epidemic. It was straight people in Africa. |
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Well for one it is not a right.There is nothing mentioned in the orginal Constitution about marriage.There was a amendment added to the Constitution a few years ago saying that "Marriage is between a man and a woman".So for all legal reasons nobody's rights are getting trampled and marriage is between a man and a woman. Gay marriage is not what the majority of people want in the country.It has been voted on many times and rejected.Even a ultra left wing liberal state like California rejected it not once but twice.It was not rejected by a hundred or a thousand but by tens of thousands. Aids is rampant among gay men.Aids is on the rise. Taken from http://www.avert.org/america.htm a Aids charity website Men who have sex with men: At the beginning of America’s epidemic, AIDS primarily affected men who have sex with men (MSM). Today, although there are more high-risk groups, MSM still account for around two thirds of HIV diagnoses among male adults and adolescents.10 There have been concerns that an increasing number of MSM are having unprotected sex, leading to a rise in the number of new HIV infections among this group.11 The CDC has reported that between 2001 and 2006, HIV/AIDS diagnoses among MSM increased by 8.6 percent.12 It is thought that the availability of antiretroviral treatment may have lessened the fear surrounding AIDS, leading to complacency about condom use.13 Children from adopted gays have a higher suicide rate than from other traditional families.Gays live a average of 44 years Gay couples do not care about democracy in America.They do not believe in "Majority rules"(as in our current prop 8 issue).If they win a issue and people complain it's too bad for you.But when they loose they say people are racists,homophobes,and evil.They sue and overturn laws to suit their needs.Speaking out against gays is considered a hate crime in many cities in America. show me this amendment plz Well for one it is not a right.There is nothing mentioned in the orginal Constitution about marriage.There was a amendment added to the Constitution a few years ago saying that "Marriage is between a man and a woman" ------------------ if a law is passed for religious reasons it is establishing that religion ------------------ good arguments lynn 
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Well for one it is not a right.There is nothing mentioned in the orginal Constitution about marriage.There was a amendment added to the Constitution a few years ago saying that "Marriage is between a man and a woman".So for all legal reasons nobody's rights are getting trampled and marriage is between a man and a woman. Gay marriage is not what the majority of people want in the country.It has been voted on many times and rejected.Even a ultra left wing liberal state like California rejected it not once but twice.It was not rejected by a hundred or a thousand but by tens of thousands. Aids is rampant among gay men.Aids is on the rise. Taken from http://www.avert.org/america.htm a Aids charity website Men who have sex with men: At the beginning of America’s epidemic, AIDS primarily affected men who have sex with men (MSM). Today, although there are more high-risk groups, MSM still account for around two thirds of HIV diagnoses among male adults and adolescents.10 There have been concerns that an increasing number of MSM are having unprotected sex, leading to a rise in the number of new HIV infections among this group.11 The CDC has reported that between 2001 and 2006, HIV/AIDS diagnoses among MSM increased by 8.6 percent.12 It is thought that the availability of antiretroviral treatment may have lessened the fear surrounding AIDS, leading to complacency about condom use.13 Children from adopted gays have a higher suicide rate than from other traditional families.Gays live a average of 44 years Gay couples do not care about democracy in America.They do not believe in "Majority rules"(as in our current prop 8 issue).If they win a issue and people complain it's too bad for you.But when they loose they say people are racists,homophobes,and evil.They sue and overturn laws to suit their needs.Speaking out against gays is considered a hate crime in many cities in America. democracy is the wants of the majority trampling the rights of the minority plz post verification of your stats plz i went to your link and it did not say what you posted unless you left some of the link out |
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Edited by
adj4u
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Wed 12/03/08 02:06 AM
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i did fing this tho
‘vulnerable groups’ in America were men who have sex with men, injecting drug users, hemophiliacs and Haitians. seems like you are pick and choosing your info thus making it unreliable did not see any mention of running rampant |
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this is America land of the free, i cant say much on the topic cause i am not a lebian or gay lol but all men and wemon are entitled to do as we please if it dose not impead upon others rights.
freedom dose not mean the freedom to only do good it is allso the freedom to do wrong,but we must be free to do wrong in order to do right! |
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Okay well you are wrong on several points.
Those opposed to gay marriage began to urge that an amendment to the Constitution be created to define marriage as being between a man and a woman only in about 2002 or so. Opponents of the amendment pointed to the failed Prohibition Amendment as a reason why such social issues should stay out of the Constitution. In the absence of any such amendment, however, marriage is not mentioned in the Constitution at any point. The United States Constitution is the supreme law of the land and does not mention or define marriage. Maybe you should acquaint yourself with some facts. AIDS? Well gosh, infection rates are high among heterosexuals particularly in populations over 60 years old. Must mean old people are bad!!! Oh they shouldn't be allowed around children or allowed to adopt or marry. Ever heard of Log Cabin Republicans? Gay republicans...bet that rocks some peoples boat. Humm if a gay republican organization gave a fund-raiser for Sarah Palin wonder who would attend? Oh and umm the idea of majority rules wasn't a big favorite of the founding fathers. You see a fine example in the creation of the electoral college that was designed to stop states with large populations from dictating to smaller states and in the writings of both the Jeffersonian and the Federalist founders who feared mob or majority rules thinking that trampled the rights of those who embraced different religious and political philosophies. Some of your statements like "Gay couples do not care about democracy in America." are well...never mind... |
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I stand corrected.The bill I am talking about is called The Federal Marriage Amendment.Although it passed in both house and congress it still did not get the majority to add a amendment to the constitution.
Winx I got that information from a Aids website check the link if you don't believe me.Yes I understand that Aids started in Africa.We are not talking about monkeys we are talking about Aids and gay men.The article says "At the beginning of AMERICAS epidimic.Read AMERICA! If this post is going to be where you can't accept facts and figures and dodge the truth by trying to get off topic then why even discuss it? you said..."democracy is the wants of the majority trampling the rights of the minority".Are you serious???Are you actually telling me that the majority should not rule.I guess in that case John Mccain should be president?Are you saying we should run this country like a dictatorship? You can't handle the truth.Show some facts and figures to back up what you are saying. |
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I stand corrected.The bill I am talking about is called The Federal Marriage Amendment.Although it passed in both house and congress it still did not get the majority to add a amendment to the constitution. Winx I got that information from a Aids website check the link if you don't believe me.Yes I understand that Aids started in Africa.We are not talking about monkeys we are talking about Aids and gay men.The article says "At the beginning of AMERICAS epidimic.Read AMERICA! If this post is going to be where you can't accept facts and figures and dodge the truth by trying to get off topic then why even discuss it? you said..."democracy is the wants of the majority trampling the rights of the minority".Are you serious???Are you actually telling me that the majority should not rule.I guess in that case John Mccain should be president?Are you saying we should run this country like a dictatorship? You can't handle the truth.Show some facts and figures to back up what you are saying. i checked your link as you posted the info it is unreliable see post above for why i say this |
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I stand corrected.The bill I am talking about is called The Federal Marriage Amendment.Although it passed in both house and congress it still did not get the majority to add a amendment to the constitution. Winx I got that information from a Aids website check the link if you don't believe me.Yes I understand that Aids started in Africa.We are not talking about monkeys we are talking about Aids and gay men.The article says "At the beginning of AMERICAS epidimic.Read AMERICA! If this post is going to be where you can't accept facts and figures and dodge the truth by trying to get off topic then why even discuss it? you said..."democracy is the wants of the majority trampling the rights of the minority".Are you serious???Are you actually telling me that the majority should not rule.I guess in that case John Mccain should be president?Are you saying we should run this country like a dictatorship? You can't handle the truth.Show some facts and figures to back up what you are saying. I wasn't talking about monkeys. I got my information from NPR news. They had a show about it and how it was really rampant with straight people in Africa and not the myth of it of gay men. |
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I stand corrected.The bill I am talking about is called The Federal Marriage Amendment.Although it passed in both house and congress it still did not get the majority to add a amendment to the constitution. Winx I got that information from a Aids website check the link if you don't believe me.Yes I understand that Aids started in Africa.We are not talking about monkeys we are talking about Aids and gay men.The article says "At the beginning of AMERICAS epidimic.Read AMERICA! If this post is going to be where you can't accept facts and figures and dodge the truth by trying to get off topic then why even discuss it? you said..."democracy is the wants of the majority trampling the rights of the minority".Are you serious???Are you actually telling me that the majority should not rule.I guess in that case John Mccain should be president?Are you saying we should run this country like a dictatorship? You can't handle the truth.Show some facts and figures to back up what you are saying. omg why are you so ignorent of the facts dude, our country wasent even meant to be a democracy it was a Republic. "CRACK A FKING BOOK!" |
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democracy is the wants of the majority trampling the rights of the minority |
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Okay well you are wrong on several points. Those opposed to gay marriage began to urge that an amendment to the Constitution be created to define marriage as being between a man and a woman only in about 2002 or so. Opponents of the amendment pointed to the failed Prohibition Amendment as a reason why such social issues should stay out of the Constitution. In the absence of any such amendment, however, marriage is not mentioned in the Constitution at any point. The United States Constitution is the supreme law of the land and does not mention or define marriage. Maybe you should acquaint yourself with some facts. AIDS? Well gosh, infection rates are high among heterosexuals particularly in populations over 60 years old. Must mean old people are bad!!! Oh they shouldn't be allowed around children or allowed to adopt or marry. Ever heard of Log Cabin Republicans? Gay republicans...bet that rocks some peoples boat. Humm if a gay republican organization gave a fund-raiser for Sarah Palin wonder who would attend? Oh and umm the idea of majority rules wasn't a big favorite of the founding fathers. You see a fine example in the creation of the electoral college that was designed to stop states with large populations from dictating to smaller states and in the writings of both the Jeffersonian and the Federalist founders who feared mob or majority rules thinking that trampled the rights of those who embraced different religious and political philosophies. Some of your statements like "Gay couples do not care about democracy in America." are well...never mind... Did they not get a bill passed before the Supreme court against the will of the voters of California in 1992?Are they not suing now.Are they not working to overide it?Do you call that Democracy?No I do not believe the Supreme court has the final word in this country.I belive the voters have the final word in this country.That is exactly why after they voted on prop 8 gay marriage was null and void despite what the Supreme court says.So you are wrong on the Supreme court having the final say. The founding fathers didn't belive in democracy?What are you smoking???Does the words "We the people" mean anything to you?Do we not vote on everything.Have we ever had a dictatorship or communism in this country? And for your information the amendment for Marriage definition for a man and woman passed every time it was voted on.It simply did not have the majority rule to make it into the constitution.Nor is it dead.It was current as of 2008 and will be voted on again. |
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