Topic: Marijuana and Christians
Winx's photo
Wed 01/28/09 09:54 AM
Edited by Winx on Wed 01/28/09 09:55 AM

Genesis 1:12 "God gave us all the seed bearing plants and herbs to use".


Do you think it should be ok for people to use marijuana at there own discretion? Or is that a typo in the bible?


What about poison berries?



Krimsa's photo
Wed 01/28/09 10:59 AM


Genesis 1:12 "God gave us all the seed bearing plants and herbs to use".


Do you think it should be ok for people to use marijuana at there own discretion? Or is that a typo in the bible?


What about poison berries?





Well we now historically that is how poisons were made. From berries or other plants. Also prehistoric women induced abortions (when it was necessary) through the use of various plants and herbal concoctions.

Filmfreek's photo
Wed 01/28/09 11:26 AM


Genesis 1:12 "God gave us all the seed bearing plants and herbs to use".


Do you think it should be ok for people to use marijuana at there own discretion? Or is that a typo in the bible?


What about poison berries?





There are some poisonous berries that have healing properties if used properly. Just like marijuana.

FearandLoathing's photo
Wed 01/28/09 11:29 AM

"We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold. I remember saying something like, "I feel a bit lightheaded; maybe you should drive . . ."And suddenly there was a terrible roar all around us and the sky was full of what looked like huge bats, all swooping and screeching and diving around the car, which was going about 100 miles an hour with the top down to Las Vegas. And a voice was screaming: "Holy Jesus! What are these goddamn animals?"


Hunter S. Thompson



"I feel a bit lightheaded; maybe you should drive.".

Winx's photo
Wed 01/28/09 11:31 AM



Genesis 1:12 "God gave us all the seed bearing plants and herbs to use".


Do you think it should be ok for people to use marijuana at there own discretion? Or is that a typo in the bible?


What about poison berries?





Well we now historically that is how poisons were made. From berries or other plants. Also prehistoric women induced abortions (when it was necessary) through the use of various plants and herbal concoctions.


Wow, I didn't know that.

Markum1972's photo
Wed 01/28/09 12:40 PM
Edited by Markum1972 on Wed 01/28/09 12:44 PM
Umm... nightshade is a plant too.
In any piece of literature you cannot take one sentence as a fundamental for the entire work. You have to take it in its entirety and use the process of elimination to find the absolute message.
Many cults have been formed by taking one verse from the bible or other religious works and making it a fundamental without the rest of the work.
I am currently in an addiction support group after ending a 5 year emotionally abusive relationship with someone that confessed that marijuana was causing a lot of problems in her life. She if fortunately now seeking help.
I also used (and should say abused) marijuana at one point of my life. It is amazing how much anyone that has given it up has the same perspective about it.
Bottom line with anything is common sense and education. Google the medical reports on the effects of marijuana. Here are the things I noticed in myself and have noticed in ALL (not just some, but all) of my friends that do it:
*Strong mood swings (Manic Depressant) at times and emotionally numb or unfeeling at other times. This seems to cause a lot of the remaining conditions.
*Indecisive and therefore usually weak-willed. Highly influenced by others (specifics vary) opinions sometimes giving up individual identity. Has a hard time making solid decisions about things. Changes mind and/or commitments often.
*Paranoia and mistrust. This stems from the confusion that the person has about how they personally feel about things (especially things they become numb to). They therefore question other people's motives and intentions concerning these same things.
*Communication and memory (mainly pertaining to communication memory). It is a known medical fact that marijuana directly affects both parts of the brain that deal with these. Most abusers think that they are very misunderstood without realizing that it is because of a lack of good communication skills on their part. They also find themselves being defensive about conversations that they have had in the past. Usually being adamant about not saying things that were completely out of character for them.
*Lack of ambition. Most do not have solid goals because of the indecision they suffer. Usually if they do pursue something, they don't follow it through to the end. Having had many unfinished long-term projects is a good sign that there is a problem.
*Dependency and defensiveness. Most abusers believe that marijuana helps them deal with their problems and will argue that if the subject comes up. This is a sign of dependency that stems from the emotional numbness that they experience towards life's disappointments. Pain (whether it be physical or emotional) is a message that our brain delivers to us to tell us that something is not right. Numbing ourselves to this pain stunts our growth in dealing with life's problems. Instead of taking the actions that are needed to problem solve, an abuser becomes numb to the pain and thus never grows past the problem.

Most of my friends respect me and trust me very much. I know each person personally and have been able to present this information to them in a way that they would accept. Most of them have since quit, cut back, or at least considered. I hope that this bit of information helps at least one person reading it as it has helped me and my friends. If it does, let me know. It would be nice to know that my efforts here have not been wasted.
I am not interested in going into a philosophical, religious, political, etc... debate about this. However, I am interested in other sources of educational material on this subject if you have any to share.




Milesoftheusa's photo
Wed 01/28/09 12:45 PM
you know it says the leaves are for the healing of the nations.. I do believe in moderation like ( at least still awake:smile: ) it is meant for us

FearandLoathing's photo
Wed 01/28/09 12:48 PM

you know it says the leaves are for the healing of the nations.. I do believe in moderation like ( at least still awake:smile: ) it is meant for us


Smoke responsibly! Always, man, always!

Use is meant for the home, do not profit from the leaf, and never get it by violent means! Three cardinal laws of smoking.smokin

Krimsa's photo
Wed 01/28/09 12:52 PM
Personally, I feel the hemp industry should be taken a little more seriously in this country.


Hemp Fabric

Hemp Twine and Cord

Hemp Clothing

Hemp and Wool Sweaters

Hemp Clothing Accessories

Hemp Bags

Hemp Rope

Hemp Webbing

Hemp Craft Supplies

Hemp Accessories

Hemp Guitar Straps

Hemp Body Care

Hemp in the Home

Hemp Seed Oil

Hemp for your Pet

Hemp Food

no photo
Wed 01/28/09 12:59 PM
Is there anything wrong with using Hemp?



...And dont worry filmfreek, you wont burn in hell for the picture of (alleged) jesus smoking pot.pitchfork the doors of heaven awaits youflowers

whose to say that is him anyways since no one knows what he looks like to begin with. that just may be any ole long haired 60's hippie guy potsmokin banjo player .smokin smokin smokin


Krimsa's photo
Wed 01/28/09 01:15 PM
Edited by Krimsa on Wed 01/28/09 01:15 PM
No there isn’t. I said the industry should be taken a little more seriously in this country.

Britty's photo
Wed 01/28/09 05:33 PM

Umm... nightshade is a plant too.



Atropa belladonna - deadly nightshade, one of the most poisonous plants. Some of its components are purified, as with Donnatel a prescription drug.

It can also be abused if used in recreational drugs which is considered extremely dangerous because of high risk of fatal overdose. The central nervous system effects of atropine include memory disruption, which may lead to severe confusion.

So these plants are here for our use, whether it may be beneficial for humans or for animals, but a little bit of wisdom should help us determine what that appropriate use is.

Filmfreek's photo
Wed 01/28/09 09:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDWROyuOi1E

Winx's photo
Wed 01/28/09 09:22 PM


I guess he didn't hear about the lung damage back then.:wink:

Filmfreek's photo
Wed 01/28/09 09:23 PM



I guess he didn't hear about the lung damage back then.:wink:


Haha. He's JESUS. He can heal them.

:wink:

Winx's photo
Wed 01/28/09 10:04 PM




I guess he didn't hear about the lung damage back then.:wink:


Haha. He's JESUS. He can heal them.

:wink:


Can he heal the lung damage now?

Filmfreek's photo
Wed 01/28/09 10:21 PM





I guess he didn't hear about the lung damage back then.:wink:


Haha. He's JESUS. He can heal them.

:wink:


Can he heal the lung damage now?


The real question is...do YOU believe he can? Or would he shrug you off, and say "ehhhh....you messed up and defiled your body. I'm not helping you." "Go off and die of lung cancer now."

If there is such a guy. I seriously doubt he would do that.

Think about it.

Winx's photo
Wed 01/28/09 10:23 PM






I guess he didn't hear about the lung damage back then.:wink:


Haha. He's JESUS. He can heal them.

:wink:


Can he heal the lung damage now?


The real question is...do YOU believe he can? Or would he shrug you off, and say "ehhhh....you messed up and defiled your body. I'm not helping you." "Go off and die of lung cancer now."

If there is such a guy. I seriously doubt he would do that.

Think about it.


I don't believe that he can heal now. We had choices.

Filmfreek's photo
Wed 01/28/09 10:28 PM
So he would say "You had your choice. I'm not going to forgive you."?

What a meanie.sad2

Winx's photo
Wed 01/28/09 10:30 PM
Edited by Winx on Wed 01/28/09 10:31 PM

So he would say "You had your choice. I'm not going to forgive you."?

What a meanie.sad2


No, it's about free will.

Also, he was walking around back then and could heal people. He's not walking around here right now.