Evolution is here the same way the Earth is round and not flat,the way the Earth revolves around the sun, and the way an apple falls from a tree because of gravity. It is here because it is science and has been independantly verified according to the scientific method by thousands of scientist for over a century.

There is not one shread of EVIDENCE that

supports Evolution ( which claims that a species of one

kind evolves into a WHOLE other kind ).

NOT....ONE...SHRED..OF...EVIDENCE.

AND THERE NEVER WILL BE ANY EVIDENCE.

Now...can changes occurr WITHIN each KIND ?

Yes.

But One KIND WILL NEVER EVOLVE INTO ANOTHER KIND.

As was stated in the beginning of this thread:

God Created ALL Things to REPRODUCE...AFTER...ITS...OWN ...KIND.

God's Word will NEVER change.

And God's Word does Not Lie.

You can Bank on It.

Also..no one but God knows Darwin's decision for God on his deathbed.

God and God alone knows.

Personally, I believe he is in heaven.

Because anything else shared on this thread from now on ,

will only sound like a broken record....

May this thread RIP now.

I also wonder what the astronomers who said that the Earth was round, and the others who advocated the Helocentric solar system, and Newton who said that things fall from gravity and not tiny angels holding everything down, said on their deathbeds, since all of these scientific observations also were considered heretical in their times.

Tiny angels holding things down? Did they really think that?

Angels, Spirits,gods,magical elements etc Like creationism they said a lot of different things

Did you know that on Superman's planet, the gravity is much heavier and that's why he could fly and he was so strong on Earth. Like if a human went to his planet, they would be crushed. Im just making this up by the way.

When One takes time to SERIOUSLY study the Bible...

one will find that

God is NOT AGAINST Science....

or Great Technology..

or Great Minds

Making Great Discoveries...


But instead...

one will find that God is

FOR Science ....

And FOR Great Technology.

And God GAVE us great minds to THINK with and USE !!


Afterall, God is the ONE Who CREATED it ALL !!

I don't try to reconcile one with the other (Evolution and creationism). It just is, and I recognize that the bible is not a science book. I recognize that the scientific method has worked to the benefit of all mankind. I don't see it as a challenge to God. The best I can figure is that the genesis story is metaphorical A morality tale. I dont know. But I do know that evolution is based upon independantly verifiable scientific observations of nature and the fossil record ,and Creationism is based on faith and ancient folktales from sources that have already proven to be unreliable about so many other things

The Bible: Brought to you by the same people who told us the Earth was flat, and the Sun revolved around the Earth.

This kind of nonsense is found No where in the bible.

And there is a LOT of nonsense spread around out there........

this is why it always best to go straight to the Bible itself....

and read and learn for one self.

.........

I am ending it here.

Be Blessed Everyone Now.

Well angels themselves come from the bible correct? Its natural to assume that they thought there were tiny ones that tried to manipulate physical objects and thats why when you dropped something, it fell to the floor. They had no other explanations for these things besides the bible (however they interpreted it) probably until Newton, angels sounded pretty plausible. And then if you decided to voice an opinion besides it being tiny angels, then off to to prison you would go as a heretic.

Ink...go read and study the bible.

Seriously, my friend.

When you Do, you will find that statement you just made,

is NOT found in the bible at all.

In fact, just the opposite is found.

I didnt say that it said that in the bible. I merely said that is one of the things that people believed in past times.

Its not in the bible but people did believe that. I wasnt intending what i said to be an attack on the bible. Read my words carefully. I am merely saying that the bible is not a science book. I believe in a rational universe that operates by a set of laws and that information can be observed and organized according to the scientific method.

I think it wasnt that it was ever actually explicitly stated in the bible that the sun revolves around the earth or that the world was flat and you could drop off and there were sea monsters there waiting to devour ships, men and cargo. Its how these early church theologists (who commanded a tremendous amount of power and influence) interpreted the bible. They felt that because god had created the planet earth that naturally his divine creation would be at the center of the cosmos. So therefore you just killed people that disagreed.

And the theory of evolution is the same way. Its not in the bible just like gravity,round earth, helocentric solar system,the and the periodic table of elements, are not in the bible but that doesn't mean that these things are not real and accurate

Well yeah. In fact if its not in the bible, its probably accurate.

As usual you only picking and choosing the facts. While it may be that there is currently a lack of fossil evidence for gateway species, it is not outside the realm of science to show empirical evidence for inter-species evolution. One good example is Polypoidy.

"Polyploidy occurs in cells and organisms when there are more than two homologous sets of chromosomes.
Known paleopolyploidy in eukaryotes

Polyploidy is a state different from most organisms which are normally diploid meaning they have only two sets of chromosomes - one set inherited from each parent; polyploidy may occur due to abnormal cell division. It is most commonly found in plants. Haploidy may also occur as a normal stage in an organism's life. A haploid has only one set of chromosomes.

The occurrence of polyploidy is a mechanism of speciation and is known to have resulted in new species of the plant Salsify (also known as "goatsbeard").

True polyploidy rarely occurs in humans, although it occurs in some tissues (especially in the liver). Polyploidy refers to a numerical change in a whole set of chromosomes. Organisms in which a particular chromosome, or chromosome segment, is under- or overrepresented are said to be aneuploid (from the Greek words meaning "not," "good," and "fold"). Therefore the distinction between aneuploidy and polyploidy is that aneuploidy refers to a numerical change in part of the chromosome set, whereas polyploidy refers to a numerical change in the whole set of chromosomes."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyploidy

While it's observed appearance in animals may be rare, it does not need to be a common occurrence to have a dramatic effect on the evolution of species.

Wow I cant believe this thread still exists.



Creationist please answer this single question.


What differentiates different kinds? How are we able to separate kinds into different kinds?

Believe it or not this is the single question who's answer lead to the idea that all life came from either a single source, or from many less advanced sources and changed over time to become what it is today.

If you can wrap your mind around taxonomy. If you study it enough you will come to the only logical conclusion.


Please watch this whole video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK1zc1mwGhg

Morningsong


Charles Darwin was a member of the Church of England although his family had a Unitarian background,and he is known to have embraced Agnosticism after 1851.